Brecon Beacons Servicemen Die

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23308215

 

 

[paulus 26]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23308215

 

 

dehydration is a killer a fact all involved would have been aware of

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I wouldn't liked to have been up there yesterday, no shade hardly anywhere in some places.

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

I wouldn't liked to have been up there yesterday, no shade hardly anywhere in some places.

It such a place of beauty but can be so hostile at any time of the year

[Ideation 8,216]

Just got back from three days hiking over the black mountains . . . . . hot as f**k.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

They were on selection for the TA SAS.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23311651

 

I did wonder why the f**k they didn't just stop and knock up some impromptu shelter when they felt heat stroke coming on. I guess they were quite determined to pass selection.

Edited July 15, 2013 by Born Hunter

[walshie 2,804]

If they passed selection, I'm sure they might have to go to hotter places than Wales. Sad all the same.

[paulus 26]

They were on selection for the TA SAS.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23311651

 

I did wonder why the f**k they didn't just stop and knock up some impromptu shelter when they felt heat stroke coming on. I guess they were quite determined to pass selection.

surely part of the selection would envolve self preservation and the buddy check system, dehydration is a killer and is basic stuff that a soldier would understand and know how to deal with it.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Socks whats your opinion

[Born Hunter 17,763]

 

They were on selection for the TA SAS.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23311651

 

I did wonder why the f**k they didn't just stop and knock up some impromptu shelter when they felt heat stroke coming on. I guess they were quite determined to pass selection.

surely part of the selection would envolve self preservation and the buddy check system, dehydration is a killer and is basic stuff that a soldier would understand and know how to deal with it.

 

 

You would think so, but then these lads were in the later stages of selection, judgement was probably impaired by the shear will to succeed. Death or glory sorta attitude.

 

Walshie is right though, Afghanistan would be a fair bit hotter!

 

I know it sounds harsh but it reminds me of that SAS chap that used to do that civilian selection programme on tv, he said something like "death is god's way of telling you you're not good enough" in his Scottish accent.

[socks 32,253]

This again proves the point that a TA soldier is miles apart from a full time soldier ... Taking on board plenty of fluids is basics when you are on an arduous rout march and something that is drilled into you through your basic training and on into your career ... A mechanic or banker etc that turns up once a week for two hours then a weekend here and there is NEVER going to be at the same level as a professional soldier yet the government is cutting back on service men and increasing the TA's ... Part time soldiers defending the country .........

 

However these lads will have gone through manned checkpoints and the DS staff at these checkpoints should have spotted the signs of dehydration and heatstroke and pulled them out ... If they had did this on an operational tour somewhere they would not have only killed themselves but also put the lives of the rest of their team in danger .......

[j j m 6,539]

its a sad way to go

[socks 32,253]

Just read the article and I find it strange thAt 6 of them collapsed as the hill phase of selection is an individual effort so for 6 people to push themselves to that state at the same time is pretty remote ... Reading between the lines it seems to me they were on a squadded tab/run which if is the case whoever was taking that is in a world of shit ...........

[bird 9,907]

This again proves the point that a TA soldier is miles apart from a full time soldier ... Taking on board plenty of fluids is basics when you are on an arduous rout march and something that is drilled into you through your basic training and on into your career ... A mechanic or banker etc that turns up once a week for two hours then a weekend here and there is NEVER going to be at the same level as a professional soldier yet the government is cutting back on service men and increasing the TA's ... Part time soldiers defending the country .........

good point Ken, they trying to save money long term, but as you say mate, a full time soldier with better training, might not been like these poor lads from the TA ?

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

Its is possible to a fit TA person alot unfit full time service bods go for it I personal think being TA has little bearing on this sad situ

Edited July 15, 2013 by cookiemonsterandmerlin