Whippets Not Keen Help

[r judd 13]

take it ferreting only do set in open leave nets at home but only do sets where she might have more than avrage chance of a catch whipps usually quick to chase though

[RossR 14]

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:25, r judd said:

take it ferreting only do set in open leave nets at home but only do sets where she might have more than avrage chance of a catch whipps usually quick to chase though

thanks, is it not a good idea to take nets just to get her used to a rabbit bolting first or... im just new to the rabbiting with a dog so any advice is much appreciated cheers

[blackmaggie 3,377]

ross shes only young try and put her in the best postion to catch taking everything slowly a couple of runs/catches a night and build her confindence up as shes sounds like she is becoming frustrated at not being able to catch

[r judd 13]

well realy if its just to get her chaseing again its just what i would do its not about catching rabbs but re educateing dog shell probably make an easy catch may be one thats had abit of stick from ferret but like most say penny will drop try to avoid chaseing the no hopers

[tsteve9999 456]

Whereabouts are the rabbits in relation to cover, are they only a few feet away from it?

If she has had no chance of catching them she's thinks that its a waste of time, My advice would be to put her on the lead for a while when there are rabbits about and only let her off if she is odds on to catch. If anywhere you go gets mixy take her there for some easy catches, you need to make her believe she's going to catch if she puts a bit of effort in.

Best of luck with her.

[RossR 14]

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:49, blackmaggie said:

ross shes only young try and put her in the best postion to catch taking everything slowly a couple of runs/catches a night and build her confindence up as shes sounds like she is becoming frustrated at not being able to catch

 

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:50, r judd said:

well realy if its just to get her chaseing again its just what i would do its not about catching rabbs but re educateing dog shell probably make an easy catch may be one thats had abit of stick from ferret but like most say penny will drop try to avoid chaseing the no hopers

 

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:54, tsteve9999 said:

Whereabouts are the rabbits in relation to cover, are they only a few feet away from it?

If she has had no chance of catching them she's thinks that its a waste of time, My advice would be to put her on the lead for a while when there are rabbits about and only let her off if she is odds on to catch. If anywhere you go gets mixy take her there for some easy catches, you need to make her believe she's going to catch if she puts a bit of effort in.

Best of luck with her.

thanks for the help guys! its really helping and giving me ideas. i just want her working but i know it takes time, im gonna give her a while maybe start her in august on some younger ones just to give her the confidence. and in relation to cover theres a big open path about 30 yards wide and 100 yards long with holes on either side and the occasional winnie bush. which isnt the best bit cause of the lack of room, i will get her in the open fields on some of my permissions! any more advice is good help! thanks again guys

[tsteve9999 456]

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:59, RossR said:

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:49, blackmaggie said:

ross shes only young try and put her in the best postion to catch taking everything slowly a couple of runs/catches a night and build her confindence up as shes sounds like she is becoming frustrated at not being able to catch

 

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:50, r judd said:

well realy if its just to get her chaseing again its just what i would do its not about catching rabbs but re educateing dog shell probably make an easy catch may be one thats had abit of stick from ferret but like most say penny will drop try to avoid chaseing the no hopers

 

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:54, tsteve9999 said:

Whereabouts are the rabbits in relation to cover, are they only a few feet away from it?

If she has had no chance of catching them she's thinks that its a waste of time, My advice would be to put her on the lead for a while when there are rabbits about and only let her off if she is odds on to catch. If anywhere you go gets mixy take her there for some easy catches, you need to make her believe she's going to catch if she puts a bit of effort in.

Best of luck with her.

thanks for the help guys! its really helping and giving me ideas. i just want her working but i know it takes time, im gonna give her a while maybe start her in august on some younger ones just to give her the confidence. and in relation to cover theres a big open path about 30 yards wide and 100 yards long with holes on either side and the occasional winnie bush. which isnt the best bit cause of the lack of room, i will get her in the open fields on some of my permissions! any more advice is good help! thanks again guys

 

There's your problem mate, on those dimensions even if a rabbit sits dead centre it's only got to go15 yards back to cover. I know it will be hard but if you can keep her away from places like that and get her a few easy ones on the lamp later on in the year you will reap the rewards. One other thing, if there is anywhere near you that holds plenty of squirrels don't take the dog there because running dogs find them easy to catch (well mine does) and I'm sure you know it's illegal :whistling:

[RossR 14]

  On 13/07/2013 at 20:22, tsteve9999 said:

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:59, RossR said:

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:49, blackmaggie said:

ross shes only young try and put her in the best postion to catch taking everything slowly a couple of runs/catches a night and build her confindence up as shes sounds like she is becoming frustrated at not being able to catch

 

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:50, r judd said:

well realy if its just to get her chaseing again its just what i would do its not about catching rabbs but re educateing dog shell probably make an easy catch may be one thats had abit of stick from ferret but like most say penny will drop try to avoid chaseing the no hopers

 

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:54, tsteve9999 said:

Whereabouts are the rabbits in relation to cover, are they only a few feet away from it?

If she has had no chance of catching them she's thinks that its a waste of time, My advice would be to put her on the lead for a while when there are rabbits about and only let her off if she is odds on to catch. If anywhere you go gets mixy take her there for some easy catches, you need to make her believe she's going to catch if she puts a bit of effort in.

Best of luck with her.

thanks for the help guys! its really helping and giving me ideas. i just want her working but i know it takes time, im gonna give her a while maybe start her in august on some younger ones just to give her the confidence. and in relation to cover theres a big open path about 30 yards wide and 100 yards long with holes on either side and the occasional winnie bush. which isnt the best bit cause of the lack of room, i will get her in the open fields on some of my permissions! any more advice is good help! thanks again guys

 

There's your problem mate, on those dimensions even if a rabbit sits dead centre it's only got to go15 yards back to cover. I know it will be hard but if you can keep her away from places like that and get her a few easy ones on the lamp later on in the year you will reap the rewards. One other thing, if there is anywhere near you that holds plenty of squirrels don't take the dog there because running dogs find them easy to catch (well mine does) and I'm sure you know it's illegal :whistling:

 

thanks!! theres not many squirrels down here but i will leave them for the air gun! everything much appreciated!

[rob284 1,682]

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:32, RossR said:

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:25, r judd said:

 

take it ferreting only do set in open leave nets at home but only do sets where she might have more than avrage chance of a catch whipps usually quick to chase though

thanks, is it not a good idea to take nets just to get her used to a rabbit bolting first or... im just new to the rabbiting with a dog so any advice is much appreciated cheers

use nets, the dog doesn't want a chase it wants its prey. Let it get a feel of a live struggling rabbit. I find they bolt too quick without nets and on most earths will run down the hedgeline and not into or across the field

[RossR 14]

  On 13/07/2013 at 20:43, rob284 said:

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:32, RossR said:

 

  On 13/07/2013 at 19:25, r judd said:

take it ferreting only do set in open leave nets at home but only do sets where she might have more than avrage chance of a catch whipps usually quick to chase though

thanks, is it not a good idea to take nets just to get her used to a rabbit bolting first or... im just new to the rabbiting with a dog so any advice is much appreciated cheers

use nets, the dog doesn't want a chase it wants its prey. Let it get a feel of a live struggling rabbit. I find they bolt too quick without nets and on most earths will run down the hedgeline and not into or across the field

 

i do most my ferreting on open hill up here!, i will do a bit of both net a few holes and leave others just to let the dog get used to it and get some runs! its the coursing i need her to pick up on cause shes not keen and wont chase!

[paulsmithy83 567]

Weird has no prey drive , I mean yeah it's young but it is a pure sight hound it is very rare for them not to have chase instinct. Most you struggle to hold back and then the problems come. I'd be more then worried if mine didnt want a look in. As people said get it out ferreting and build its confidence up and hope it comes forward. Very easy rabbits and out with very experienced dogs that catch alot and hope penny drops

[robadoo 212]

i wud get it out watching dogs doing the job mate , get it out bushing with a few experianced dogs .

[Country Joe 1,411]

As has been said wait till Sept get her out with the ferrets, doesn't matter if you net up, the rumbling of the rabbits, as they break cover and them hitting the nets will gee her up.

I started my whippet at 7 months, as i do all my rabbiting dogs, and as i say, let them watch the rabbits bolting, learning to work with the ferrets, and to mark.

never failed with a dog yet.

[darbo 4,776]

I would also let the pup get to some ferreted rabbits in the net first. Not all dogs are world beaters from day one with prey drive through the roof. build her confidence with netted rabbits and progress from there. alll dogs are different she stilll maybe imature mentally and lacking confidence. just small steps at a time without overfacing her. the penny will drop. good luck for the future. as she gets more experienced she may start to anticipate were the rabbits are going to bolt from.bolted rabbits with no nets can come later it can be productive dependant on terrrain and the lay out of the land ie how much of a run she can get to secure a catch.same as lamping try her on some young green as grass rabbits only slip her when you are confident at having a good chance of a catch atb.different dogs for example yours sometimes require a sometimes different appproach.

[Country Joe 1,411]

Good info from Darbo, when i bring a dog on, i don't have other dogs to show the ropes, and you will get advice on droppers, I don't do this either.

Im sure she will come good, my Neighbour has a young Whippet Bitch Nimrodel breeding bred from pets, she does not want her dog to chase rabbits, but cant stop her, ive seen her, and she has a very high prey drive.

Out ferreting is the answer, especially those crisp cold days, when the rabbits sound like an express train underground, and hit the net at speed, a few days like this, and she will get going