Kelpie X

[Neal 1,867]

My three pure kelpies are all different in temperament.

 

The thirteen year old male, Rust(in my avatar) was aggressive for the first few years and an extreme one-man-dog but completely changed when he was around three or four. He's now very easy going and sociable but still has that odd knack of disarming other aggressive dogs by his quiet confidence...which is good as one puff of wind and he'd fall over as he was knocked over by a van when he was eleven months old! The poor old fart can still just about make it to the wood and back.

 

The nine year old cream bitch (Amber) only likes me, though she'll put up with my wife. I've tried rehoming her as she doesn't like my four year old son but for some odd reason nobody wanted a middle aged rabbit chasing dog which didn't like people or other dogs. Can't think why! So she now lives permanently in the kennel and only comes in when the kids are in bed. She's the only one which has worked sheep; returning a lost lamb to a ewe in Dartmoor. I didn't give her any instructions she just went into auto-pilot. She's caught rabbits but her quarry list and numbers are not as great as the male or her half sister.

 

Her half sister, Scout, was six at the weekend. They are as different as chalk and cheese. If Amber was Eeyore then Scout would be Tigger! She's the only dog I've ever had which I can't stop from jumping up. She loves everybody and gets on well with other dogs though not in as calm a way as Rust; she tends to rush them in play invitation. She has by far the best nose of the three and started catching earliest. A couple of weeks ago, upon going out for our morning walk, she took the full lead and refused to walk to heel. Five minutes later (about a third of a mile) we arrived at a road kill squirrel by the edge of the wood. I've never owned a terrier x whippet but her character is similar to what I'd expect one to be like.

 

In general, although they can be as biddable as collies they seem to work a lot better if allowed to do it their own way. I've lost count of the times their unorthodox ways have been right. My brother bought me a fantastic book full of stories of Australian working dogs and one chap said (of the difference between collies and kelpies) that, in his experience, collies are more likely to do exactly as their told and have better memories whereas if you hear of a dog doing something outstanding then it's usually a kelpie.

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

Thanks

Always interested in different types working.

They should be more popular....but glad there not.

[postie 425]

Nice looking bitch 21dangermouse....I had a chat with Jim when he bred his litter. He came across as a very genuine fella. I think both the parents were bred by Sleighty, they seem to throw to the collie...

The one I had off Dave is supposed to only have a 1/16 collie in him but he's definitely thrown to the collie side.

 

Postie

[foresterj 1,096]

My three pure kelpies are all different in temperament.

 

The thirteen year old male, Rust(in my avatar) was aggressive for the first few years and an extreme one-man-dog but completely changed when he was around three or four. He's now very easy going and sociable but still has that odd knack of disarming other aggressive dogs by his quiet confidence...which is good as one puff of wind and he'd fall over as he was knocked over by a van when he was eleven months old! The poor old fart can still just about make it to the wood and back.

 

The nine year old cream bitch (Amber) only likes me, though she'll put up with my wife. I've tried rehoming her as she doesn't like my four year old son but for some odd reason nobody wanted a middle aged rabbit chasing dog which didn't like people or other dogs. Can't think why! So she now lives permanently in the kennel and only comes in when the kids are in bed. She's the only one which has worked sheep; returning a lost lamb to a ewe in Dartmoor. I didn't give her any instructions she just went into auto-pilot. She's caught rabbits but her quarry list and numbers are not as great as the male or her half sister.

Neal I hope you're not head of sales! Lol

Neal

 

Her half sister, Scout, was six at the weekend. They are as different as chalk and cheese. If Amber was Eeyore then Scout would be Tigger! She's the only dog I've ever had which I can't stop from jumping up. She loves everybody and gets on well with other dogs though not in as calm a way as Rust; she tends to rush them in play invitation. She has by far the best nose of the three and started catching earliest. A couple of weeks ago, upon going out for our morning walk, she took the full lead and refused to walk to heel. Five minutes later (about a third of a mile) we arrived at a road kill squirrel by the edge of the wood. I've never owned a terrier x whippet but her character is similar to what I'd expect one to be like.

 

In general, although they can be as biddable as collies they seem to work a lot better if allowed to do it their own way. I've lost count of the times their unorthodox ways have been right. My brother bought me a fantastic book full of stories of Australian working dogs and one chap said (of the difference between collies and kelpies) that, in his experience, collies are more likely to do exactly as their told and have better memories whereas if you hear of a dog doing something outstanding then it's usually a kelpie.

[foresterj 1,096]

Hope you're not head of the sales dept. Neal!for kelpies

Edited July 9, 2013 by foresterj

[Neal 1,867]

Hope you're not head of the sales dept. Neal!

 

Eh?

[Guest Leveller]

 

 

 

[birddog 1,354]

My three pure kelpies are all different in temperament.

 

The thirteen year old male, Rust(in my avatar) was aggressive for the first few years and an extreme one-man-dog but completely changed when he was around three or four. He's now very easy going and sociable but still has that odd knack of disarming other aggressive dogs by his quiet confidence...which is good as one puff of wind and he'd fall over as he was knocked over by a van when he was eleven months old! The poor old fart can still just about make it to the wood and back.

 

The nine year old cream bitch (Amber) only likes me, though she'll put up with my wife. I've tried rehoming her as she doesn't like my four year old son but for some odd reason nobody wanted a middle aged rabbit chasing dog which didn't like people or other dogs. Can't think why! So she now lives permanently in the kennel and only comes in when the kids are in bed. She's the only one which has worked sheep; returning a lost lamb to a ewe in Dartmoor. I didn't give her any instructions she just went into auto-pilot. She's caught rabbits but her quarry list and numbers are not as great as the male or her half sister.

 

Her half sister, Scout, was six at the weekend. They are as different as chalk and cheese. If Amber was Eeyore then Scout would be Tigger! She's the only dog I've ever had which I can't stop from jumping up. She loves everybody and gets on well with other dogs though not in as calm a way as Rust; she tends to rush them in play invitation. She has by far the best nose of the three and started catching earliest. A couple of weeks ago, upon going out for our morning walk, she took the full lead and refused to walk to heel. Five minutes later (about a third of a mile) we arrived at a road kill squirrel by the edge of the wood. I've never owned a terrier x whippet but her character is similar to what I'd expect one to be like.

 

In general, although they can be as biddable as collies they seem to work a lot better if allowed to do it their own way. I've lost count of the times their unorthodox ways have been right. My brother bought me a fantastic book full of stories of Australian working dogs and one chap said (of the difference between collies and kelpies) that, in his experience, collies are more likely to do exactly as their told and have better memories whereas if you hear of a dog doing something outstanding then it's usually a kelpie.

i do like the sturdiness (of build, feet and temperament) of these types and although ive had a few border collie x's over the years and agree that they are more likely to do what they're told, i too have lost count of the amount of times my beardie / border x has acted stupid (to me) seemed stubborn or downright disobedient and come up trumps making me feel dumb, i thought it was a beardie trait, maybe guys with experience of both could comment

[21dangermouse 86]

Cheers for the info and pictures guys.

 

Leveller that kelpie x of yours looks in fantastic condition real credit to you. That picture when next to ferret box you want to frame it get on wall. What heights and weight is it?

 

Dave p like the look of those two. Do you own them?

 

For all the suffers of canine foot fetish here's one to add to the collection.

[2.8 guy 403]

Nice looking bitch 21dangermouse....I had a chat with Jim when he bred his litter. He came across as a very genuine fella. I think both the parents were bred by Sleighty, they seem to throw to the collie...

The one I had off Dave is supposed to only have a 1/16 collie in him but he's definitely thrown to the collie side.

 

Postie

I thought they may be some type of connection due to the collie, I ran against one of daves kelpie greyhounds at chatsworth in the advanced obedience the dog was a big choclate dog and was of a very nice stamp and of a very good nature to me and other dogs im suprised to here of the aggressive side of these dogs

we used come into contact with dave slight a fair bit in the 90's and the lads i hunted with put kelpie into spaniels and all sorts at that time, i was never fond of the kelpie whippets tho but horses for courses ect,

since then ive seen a few kelpie crosses dave a mate of posties had a lovely bitch and that was said to be a very good all rounder, postie im looking forward to see your dog work later in the seasons to come, for now a side on pic would be nice

[Neal 1,867]

 

My three pure kelpies are all different in temperament.

 

The thirteen year old male, Rust(in my avatar) was aggressive for the first few years and an extreme one-man-dog but completely changed when he was around three or four. He's now very easy going and sociable but still has that odd knack of disarming other aggressive dogs by his quiet confidence...which is good as one puff of wind and he'd fall over as he was knocked over by a van when he was eleven months old! The poor old fart can still just about make it to the wood and back.

 

The nine year old cream bitch (Amber) only likes me, though she'll put up with my wife. I've tried rehoming her as she doesn't like my four year old son but for some odd reason nobody wanted a middle aged rabbit chasing dog which didn't like people or other dogs. Can't think why! So she now lives permanently in the kennel and only comes in when the kids are in bed. She's the only one which has worked sheep; returning a lost lamb to a ewe in Dartmoor. I didn't give her any instructions she just went into auto-pilot. She's caught rabbits but her quarry list and numbers are not as great as the male or her half sister.

 

Her half sister, Scout, was six at the weekend. They are as different as chalk and cheese. If Amber was Eeyore then Scout would be Tigger! She's the only dog I've ever had which I can't stop from jumping up. She loves everybody and gets on well with other dogs though not in as calm a way as Rust; she tends to rush them in play invitation. She has by far the best nose of the three and started catching earliest. A couple of weeks ago, upon going out for our morning walk, she took the full lead and refused to walk to heel. Five minutes later (about a third of a mile) we arrived at a road kill squirrel by the edge of the wood. I've never owned a terrier x whippet but her character is similar to what I'd expect one to be like.

 

In general, although they can be as biddable as collies they seem to work a lot better if allowed to do it their own way. I've lost count of the times their unorthodox ways have been right. My brother bought me a fantastic book full of stories of Australian working dogs and one chap said (of the difference between collies and kelpies) that, in his experience, collies are more likely to do exactly as their told and have better memories whereas if you hear of a dog doing something outstanding then it's usually a kelpie.

i do like the sturdiness (of build, feet and temperament) of these types and although ive had a few border collie x's over the years and agree that they are more likely to do what they're told, i too have lost count of the amount of times my beardie / border x has acted stupid (to me) seemed stubborn or downright disobedient and come up trumps making me feel dumb, i thought it was a beardie trait, maybe guys with experience of both could comment

 

I know what you mean.

 

Before having my first kelpie/collie lurcher I had three other lurchers with varying amounts of both types of collie and I found the beardie way of working things out to be more similar to my kelpies.

 

One example: I was walking over Coniston Moor with a beardie x greyhound sired by Hancock's Remus. I was trudging through high heather and she was walking tight to my heels to make the most of the heather-less wake I was creating behind me. Unfortunately, this meant that I kept kicking her in the chin. I was finding this more and more annoying so eventually told her to p*** off: which she did. After removing herself about thirty odd yards she recommenced walking almost parallel to me, I started feeling guilty so called her back but she ignored me which I presumed was due to the beardie stubborness I'd read about. When our paths eventually crossed again some time later, she'd been walking on a well worn path while I'd been trudging through knee-wrecking heather. Who was the bigger idiot?

 

P.S. Foresterj...just reread my other post and I now see what you mean...it was late and I'd had a long day!

 

I think it's simply that I'm so used to their way of doing things that I don't see it as either positive or negative it simply "is" (very zen). If anything I often worry that people will think I've got severe kennel blindness.

Edited July 10, 2013 by Neal

[DAVE P 100]

The black bitch is my brothers an the fawn dog is mine,there out of different litters.The bitch is a real sound worker,real steady bitch,this coming season will be my dogs first so fingers crossed,to be honest he's been a pain in the arse,messy and loud in kennels and wonting to be with me 24_7 but i've stuck in there an he's slowly getting better,realy matured last couple of months.

[pritch 335]

always had collie x's might try one a kelpie next time round

[Lee H 1982 60]

is there any of you that could tell me if dave slieght kelpie lines are any good as ive only had whippet or whippet xs and reading this as me wondering about lining my three quarter greyhound quarter collie to daves kelpie cross she is a real good all rounder ferreting lamping and can find them in cover when bushing this is her with the boy

[Guest Leveller]

Leveller that kelpie x of yours looks in fantastic condition real credit to you. That picture when next to ferret box you want to frame it get on wall. What heights and weight is it?

 

 

 

Thanks, I don't really know what height or weight she is to be honest but she is quite small