gnasher16 30,121 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Insurance for dogs ffs. Plz no yet again more taken from our pockets again ffs . Hit everybody instead of the ckowns who fook it up for proper dog caring owners like myself, im fed up off clearing up mess left by wasters . Identify, act, and stop them, Your not morally obligated to own a dog....nobody forces you...............same as a car..................they are both non essential items we can live without if need be. All car owners get hit why shouldnt all dog owners.......you can drive a skoda cheaply or a ferrari expensively......only difference is the ferraris of the dog world can be bought cheap as chips................ Tell me a better preventative action to stop pricks owning dangerous dogs they dont understand ? Your solution would be hitting responsible dog owners, wouldn't affect the scum at all and wouldn't solve the problem. Owning a dog is a non essential item? Are you sure your not Cameron in disguise pal? trying to stifle out every little pleasure the working man has to enjoy! There are some people who are hard working but not very well off for one reason or another.....but are perfectly good dog owners and think the world of their mutts, they probably wouldn't be able to justify a couple of hundred quid per dog per year so would have to get shut. Meanwhile tracksuit Kevin is still strutting round with his uninsured pitbull....but if he gets caught he'll get a ban? the whole breed is banned but it doesn't stop him having one, do you think a silly bit of paper banning him from having dogs is going to work? and it wouldn't stop his dog attacking others either, why would it? In this situation if his dog attacked he'd probably just run off and leave the dog there! There is no decent solution to preventing things like this, the only thing you can do is punish the people who are responsible after an incident....not ideal no, but definitely favourable to what you're suggesting. If Kevin gets caught with a dog on a ban he gets banged up same as a car owner on a ban does...........theres already far too many dogs in our societies and far too many dog owners.............if a potential dog owner is serious and responsible they will go the extra mile that tracksuit Kevin wont go to................it wouldnt solve the problem overnight but it will be a foot in the right direction. If we had a way of identifying rapists before they raped we would use it..............since when has cure been better than prevention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 . You seem to keep missing out a very important point......the people who cause the problems wouldn't take out the insurance! so what next, increase everyone elses premium to compensate for the ones that don't pay, like they do with cars? Brilliant! No....they go to jail...............like people who drive on bans do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 What about old people, who have to decide on heat, or insuring their only companion. Or tramps with dogs, would the police seize uninsured dogs ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 What about old people, who have to decide on heat, or insuring their only companion. Or tramps with dogs, would the police seize uninsured dogs ? What does a tramp need a dog for ?.....He cant look after his own life let alone a dogs...............old people will naturally pay a lower premium as they are a lower risk.......... I aint got all the answers by the way im simply throwing the idea about.............if you boys can think of better ones dont be shy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Just make people accountable for their dogs. No need to make millions out of it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Just make people accountable for their dogs. No need to make millions out of it. And how do you do that ?.............and how does it stop irresponsible idiots from owning dangerous dogs they dont understand ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 They are already planning that every dog is chipped and registered right ? You'll never stop idiots owning dogs, same as you can not stop them breeding themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Too be honest lads i dont see why your arguing on it, nothing you lot say will change a thing, way i see it is i look after my own dogs so why should i worry about how other peoples are cared for or whether they have insurance or not, theres no point. A few lads spouting few on a hunting forum will change nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Too be honest lads i dont see why your arguing on it, nothing you lot say will change a thing, way i see it is i look after my own dogs so why should i worry about how other peoples are cared for or whether they have insurance or not, theres no point. A few lads spouting few on a hunting forum will change nothing Whos arguing about anything we,re throwing a few ideas around nothing more ..........im all for "just keep your own house in order "...................but when folk are moaning that the dog across the way runs over to mine on its lead and starts trouble................that sometimes aint enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Sad to me reading some of these posts on this site... That 'little rat' as it's been called was someones beloved pet, makes no difference what it was doing or provoking in its own front garden, it shouldn't have been attacked and killed... I'll defend bull breeds forever but only if they are in the right hands and this dog, like many others that make the headlines, simply was not. Control, or rather the lack of it, being the problem here. The media are double quick to jump and attack, almost as quick as that dog, so its doubly important to present bull breeds in the most sensible manor but being all nonchalant and dismissive on a public forum harms even more... What can be done...? I really ain't got an answer because as we know the amount of unsuitable dogs owned by unsuitable owners on our inner city streets is getting worse, it sickens me and all the bad publicity in the world ain't helping, so for me I see Gnasher's idea as a decent one, for all dogs, all breeds... I'd rather that than outright blanket bans... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) True gnasher nobody is argueing.. When im out and about well to me its sooooo easy to see somebody whos in control and who isnt so if i can identify then as ive said time and time again repeated i know but why cant a proper good dog warden see the good from bad the problem.owners or problem dogs? You cant keep hitting good folk with another tax.. Gnasher i read nearly all your posts as ive agreed many a time with you i like your replys but cant understand another problem being sorted by money loss from our pockets... Why was dog wardens given a job? What was their job discription? Edited July 10, 2013 by bracken boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 True gnasher nobody is argueing.. When im out and about well to me its sooooo easy to see somebody whos in control and who isnt so if i can identify then as ive said time and time again repeated i know but why cant a proper good dog warden see the good from bad the problem.owners or problem dogs? You cant keep hitting good folk with another tax.. Gnasher i read nearly all your posts as ive agreed many a time with you i like your replys but cant understand another problem being sorted by money loss from our pockets... Why was dog wardens given a job? What was their job discription? Im not saying im right mate its just an idea that floats around in my nut from time to time when these sort of incidents happen.....you make a good argument against it and i can see your reasoning.......i just dont see a better alternative at the moment. Dog wardens............thats a good shout........but who and what are they has anybody ever seen one ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 It's in the name.... Dog 'Wardens', they'd simply get fecked off by most, no different to the old Park Police (remember them), us kids took the piss, as would any nutcase adult with a time bomb dog... Without powers of arrest and seizure it wouldn't work. Shades of RSPCA here, what about if there were a call on wardens by the public and the 'good old RSPCA put themselves up for the job...!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,179 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 got threatened on the beach other morning,,mine on lead,,when this husky type thing came at us,, i had a small length of wood for throwing in sea for dogs etc..seen it coming so raised my arm at the fuxker..and it backed of ..this younger bully boy bloke threatened me with, touch that dog and i;ll break ya..as if it was my fault..any way his missis steps in,,etc etc...[ god i wish i was younger at times like this,,lol....].fuxking idiots do my head in.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 True gnasher nobody is argueing.. When im out and about well to me its sooooo easy to see somebody whos in control and who isnt so if i can identify then as ive said time and time again repeated i know but why cant a proper good dog warden see the good from bad the problem.owners or problem dogs? You cant keep hitting good folk with another tax.. Gnasher i read nearly all your posts as ive agreed many a time with you i like your replys but cant understand another problem being sorted by money loss from our pockets... Why was dog wardens given a job? What was their job discription? Im not saying im right mate its just an idea that floats around in my nut from time to time when these sort of incidents happen.....you make a good argument against it and i can see your reasoning.......i just dont see a better alternative at the moment. Dog wardens............thats a good shout........but who and what are they has anybody ever seen one ! I think you will have to drop that idea as a bad job, can you imagine what chavs would do if having a bull breed meant you 'were hard as nails' AND proved you had lots of money to afford it the sales of Argos jewellery would plummet as it became redundant. As mentioned, they wouldn't be paying insurance and they wouldn't be caught, towns and cities are full of 'banned breeds'. Also if you had a risk rating, who the feck decides which dog is worse, what statistics do you work from? If you go on which dogs bite the most children then small terriers would be the top of the list, if you went on size and the potential damage it would reverse and you would have st bernards etc costing the most. If you get rid of one breed they will buy another, ban staffs it will be huskies etc etc etc until you have chavs making beagles aggressive Unlike others who disagree with you though, I think i do have a real workable solution. Firstly stop all benefits for having children, like you said no-one is forced to have kids so why the f**k should those who don't want kids pay for others to do so? Should you pay tax so I can have dogs I can't afford? Of course not, so: 1. No more child benefits 2. Pass a test before you can have children (competence and intelligence) 3. Parents should be fined when their children skip school or cause bother This is directly related because if you stop the breeding of the leeches of society who drag everyone down then we won't have a conveyor belt of young arseholes buying dogs to impress other idiots, because they wouldn't have been born. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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