Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Ive been saying it for years.....there should be car owner type insurance on ALL dogs.........a bull terrier would be the equivalent group 20 that a Ferrari is.....a fluffy little cake eating tv watching breed would be a group 1..........dog ownership numbers would drastically reduce,after all.....how many bad boys off the estate are going to fork out serious money to insure a dog,alternatively they could hang with their homies with a Yorkie under their arm ?...........The decisions made by societies idiots cant be controlled,but they can be influenced ! all that'd happen is you'd have a load of chavs with uninsured dogs, and us normal folk would be paying through the nose for it even though it's completely unnecessary if you're a responsible dog owner. Insurance companies fleece us enough as it is IMO. The only way an idea like this would be enforceable would be for the dog to have to wear a disc on it's collar, so it's visible, like a car's tax disc, but every system is open to abuse. (Mind you lots of owners don't even seem aware that an identifying disc on the dog's collar is already required by law.) Edited July 9, 2013 by Blackbriar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ive been saying it for years.....there should be car owner type insurance on ALL dogs.........a bull terrier would be the equivalent group 20 that a Ferrari is.....a fluffy little cake eating tv watching breed would be a group 1..........dog ownership numbers would drastically reduce,after all.....how many bad boys off the estate are going to fork out serious money to insure a dog,alternatively they could hang with their homies with a Yorkie under their arm ?...........The decisions made by societies idiots cant be controlled,but they can be influenced ! all that'd happen is you'd have a load of chavs with uninsured dogs, and us normal folk would be paying through the nose for it even though it's completely unnecessary if you're a responsible dog owner. Insurance companies fleece us enough as it is IMO. The only way an idea like this would be enforceable would be for the dog to have to wear a disc on it's collar, so it's visible, like a car's tax disc, but every system is open to abuse. (Mind you lots of owners don't even seem aware that an identifying disc on the dog's collar is required by law.) Again...and don't think I'm trying to be argumentative, but don't you think they'd be nicking the discs, or just making them? and who would be able to see it anyway unless you physically got hold of the dog to have a look? I genuinely don't think there's a decent, workable solution. Knowing this stupid country though it'll probably soon be illegal to have a dog off a lead, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vixen 528 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 It makes me sick to read some of the replies on here thinking it was ok for this dog to kill someones little pet, to me these people are no better than the clown with the staffie in the article, THIS WAS SOMEONES LITTLE PET you might not like the breed but it didn't deserve to die like that in it's own garden might I add, I like staffie and bull type dogs and have never come across a bad one yet, only idiot owners have untrained dogs, unfortunately these are in the lurcher world too. Two lurchers killed my neighbours little cat the other night, the cat belonged to a 5yr old wee girl who loved her wee cat to bits,another lurcher owner had no control over their dogs last month and they both tore into an elderly mans little dog which was on the lead, poor wee thing luckily survived. It's not big and it's not clever for large dogs to kill other peoples precious little pets !!! all my dogs would kill a cat on sight ,isnt that a dog being a dog Not all dogs "kill" cats or peoples little pets on sight, and to answer your question............no it isn't just a dog being a dog, some dogs haven't obviously been socialised with cats or small dogs, some have , it's down to the owner how his/her dog behaves towards other animals in public Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ive been saying it for years.....there should be car owner type insurance on ALL dogs.........a bull terrier would be the equivalent group 20 that a Ferrari is.....a fluffy little cake eating tv watching breed would be a group 1..........dog ownership numbers would drastically reduce,after all.....how many bad boys off the estate are going to fork out serious money to insure a dog,alternatively they could hang with their homies with a Yorkie under their arm ?...........The decisions made by societies idiots cant be controlled,but they can be influenced ! How about a more comprehensive license like a drivers so more difficult to counterfeit with all the owners, details and microchip number. Like a fca it has to be carried when the dog is out in public so if necessary dog can be checked on the spot . Then price it accordingly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Ive been saying it for years.....there should be car owner type insurance on ALL dogs.........a bull terrier would be the equivalent group 20 that a Ferrari is.....a fluffy little cake eating tv watching breed would be a group 1..........dog ownership numbers would drastically reduce,after all.....how many bad boys off the estate are going to fork out serious money to insure a dog,alternatively they could hang with their homies with a Yorkie under their arm ?...........The decisions made by societies idiots cant be controlled,but they can be influenced ! all that'd happen is you'd have a load of chavs with uninsured dogs, and us normal folk would be paying through the nose for it even though it's completely unnecessary if you're a responsible dog owner. Insurance companies fleece us enough as it is IMO. The only way an idea like this would be enforceable would be for the dog to have to wear a disc on it's collar, so it's visible, like a car's tax disc, but every system is open to abuse. (Mind you lots of owners don't even seem aware that an identifying disc on the dog's collar is required by law.) Again...and don't think I'm trying to be argumentative, but don't you think they'd be nicking the discs, or just making them? and who would be able to see it anyway unless you physically got hold of the dog to have a look? I genuinely don't think there's a decent, workable solution. Knowing this stupid country though it'll probably soon be illegal to have a dog off a lead, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Seems we agree in a round-a-bout kind of way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Ive been saying it for years.....there should be car owner type insurance on ALL dogs.........a bull terrier would be the equivalent group 20 that a Ferrari is.....a fluffy little cake eating tv watching breed would be a group 1..........dog ownership numbers would drastically reduce,after all.....how many bad boys off the estate are going to fork out serious money to insure a dog,alternatively they could hang with their homies with a Yorkie under their arm ?...........The decisions made by societies idiots cant be controlled,but they can be influenced ! How about a more comprehensive license like a drivers so more difficult to counterfeit with all the owners, details and microchip number. Like a fca it has to be carried when the dog is out in public so if necessary dog can be checked on the spot . Then price it accordingly. All adds to the cost,Brewie, and the fukkwitts are just going to ignore it - like they do with other laws that don't suit them. Once again , the many are penalised for the actions of a few twats! Edited July 9, 2013 by Blackbriar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Aye true enough B.B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 shame that would of been a nice stud dog ............to put over me whippet 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) bracken im sure the lads on here who own them can control them,well i hope they can.round my way seems every c**t wants to own staffies,or rotties.and im not lying ive met loads,and unfortunaetly the few several times,and not one of them listens to a word there ownwers say.there either chasing after them,or trying to stop fights.the only time i let my dog off the lead is when get to where im going. sadly i have to pass these idiots from time to time. i honestly dont see how they get any enjoyment from owning a dog,that does not listen to basic commands. Im sick to the back teeth of people branding anybody who wants a staffie a chav, yes many do want these dogs for the wrong reasons but why does that mean anybody who owns one is the same as those. Dont shoot me down for this but i think many bull breeds make the best pet as they want nothing more than to please and are a pleasure to own, ive put alot of time into mine and have made a great obedient dog that would shit when i asked him too ha whereas the yorkie is good for nothing other than warming your lap. The article in effect makes out that bull breeds prey on the fluffy creatures, bollocks At least mine seems to think so Edited July 9, 2013 by youcanthide...BANG 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 what utter shite tax discs on dogs, paying the government nore money in insurance, higher rates on the types of dogs???? what is going through some of your heads? don't they harm us enough with taking far too much off us anyway and lets face it they have toooooo much say over our dogs anyway. just be harder on the owner of the dogs that do these stupid attacks 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 bracken im sure the lads on here who own them can control them,well i hope they can.round my way seems every c**t wants to own staffies,or rotties.and im not lying ive met loads,and unfortunaetly the few several times,and not one of them listens to a word there ownwers say.there either chasing after them,or trying to stop fights.the only time i let my dog off the lead is when get to where im going. sadly i have to pass these idiots from time to time. i honestly dont see how they get any enjoyment from owning a dog,that does not listen to basic commands. Im sick to the back teeth of people branding anybody who wants a staffie a chav, yes many do want these dogs for the wrong reasons but why does that mean anybody who owns one is the same as those. Dont shoot me down for this but i think many bull breeds make the best pet as they want nothing more than to please and are a pleasure to own, ive put alot of time into mine and have made a great obedient dog that would shit when i asked him too ha whereas the yorkie is good for nothing other than warming your lap. The article in effect makes out that bull breeds prey on the fluffy creatures, bollocks At least mine seems to think so common misunderstanding, nobody says that all staff owners are chavs, but most chavs own staffs. It's a shame for decent staff owners but that's just the way it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 i never called anyone a chav lol im only telling you of my expierence mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) i never called anyone a chav lol im only telling you of my expierence mate. Sorry mate the thread just got me a little pissed of with all the negative shite about bull breeds, annoyed me a little with the insurance part with bull breed owners being charged more, when the little breed dogs are the worst and most irritating creatures on the planet lol. bracken im sure the lads on here who own them can control them,well i hope they can.round my way seems every c**t wants to own staffies,or rotties.and im not lying ive met loads,and unfortunaetly the few several times,and not one of them listens to a word there ownwers say.there either chasing after them,or trying to stop fights.the only time i let my dog off the lead is when get to where im going. sadly i have to pass these idiots from time to time. i honestly dont see how they get any enjoyment from owning a dog,that does not listen to basic commands. Im sick to the back teeth of people branding anybody who wants a staffie a chav, yes many do want these dogs for the wrong reasons but why does that mean anybody who owns one is the same as those. Dont shoot me down for this but i think many bull breeds make the best pet as they want nothing more than to please and are a pleasure to own, ive put alot of time into mine and have made a great obedient dog that would shit when i asked him too ha whereas the yorkie is good for nothing other than warming your lap. The article in effect makes out that bull breeds prey on the fluffy creatures, bollocks At least mine seems to think so common misunderstanding, nobody says that all staff owners are chavs, but most chavs own staffs. It's a shame for decent staff owners but that's just the way it is. Saying most chavs own staffs is like saying most staffies are owned by chavs because they seem to make up a massive percentage of the country's population lol Edited July 9, 2013 by youcanthide...BANG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 what utter shite tax discs on dogs, paying the government nore money in insurance, higher rates on the types of dogs???? what is going through some of your heads? don't they harm us enough with taking far too much off us anyway and lets face it they have toooooo much say over our dogs anyway. just be harder on the owner of the dogs that do these stupid attacks Big G, I think most of us dismissed the ideas we'd put forward as impractical, unworkable or unenforceable.So how do we 'be harder on the owners of these dogs...?' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 bracken im sure the lads on here who own them can control them,well i hope they can.round my way seems every c**t wants to own staffies,or rotties.and im not lying ive met loads,and unfortunaetly the few several times,and not one of them listens to a word there ownwers say.there either chasing after them,or trying to stop fights.the only time i let my dog off the lead is when get to where im going. sadly i have to pass these idiots from time to time. i honestly dont see how they get any enjoyment from owning a dog,that does not listen to basic commands. Im sick to the back teeth of people branding anybody who wants a staffie a chav, yes many do want these dogs for the wrong reasons but why does that mean anybody who owns one is the same as those. Dont shoot me down for this but i think many bull breeds make the best pet as they want nothing more than to please and are a pleasure to own, ive put alot of time into mine and have made a great obedient dog that would shit when i asked him too ha whereas the yorkie is good for nothing other than warming your lap. The article in effect makes out that bull breeds prey on the fluffy creatures, bollocks At least mine seems to think so My Stafford died 3 years ago, aged 14.I didn't get another simply because no other dog could match up to her.Loyal, faithful and understood every word I said to her .I'm not sentimental, but broke my heart when she died - the other dogs pined for her for days. I still miss her to this day! If you're interested, she was the daughter of the show champion Bold Bull Blackjack - she truly was man's best friend (this man at least!). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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