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I dont see a real point .I have shot two rabbits dead with one shot by luck with a light 177 at about 15 to 25 yards .So I may go for three in a row now or people using 22 will have a chance of getting 2 rabbits with one shot.Unfortunately after seeing the vid I will now have buy to some of these pellets to try them out .More s... to buy

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Are made for overseas where limited to .177 calibre - but need weight down range to control Vermin

 

But big cry's in certian Guns they can exceed Sub 12 FP -

 

Must do a vid on using them against Rat's - would end up being XXX Rated - Really blows them apart -

 

BOB/R

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just done a quick test with my hw 100 in 177 .there are two sizes 4.46 and 4.5 .4.46 came out at full power the 4.5 just made 10 ft lbs .so I then shot only the 4.46 at thirteen yards and they grouped ok .So if you want to gamble on what size .I shoot average pellets in my hw 100 mosquito express ,lazapells,air arms field 4.52 or 4.51 with no big difference not 2 ft lbs .got some 22 as well god know why.

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:hmm: need to get my .22 on my ticket and try these!

 

My AA 400 in .22 was used in tests for video - Filling to 190 Bar able to keep Sub 12.FP -

 

BOB/R

 

 

Im planning on getting a .22 FAC anyway bob i have the space on my ticket :thumbs: Im sure these monsters will work well in an fac if they can perform like that in a sub

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:hmm: need to get my .22 on my ticket and try these!

 

My AA 400 in .22 was used in tests for video - Filling to 190 Bar able to keep Sub 12.FP -

 

BOB/R

 

so its fair to say this isn't a unbiased review then as you have a hand in selling em?.... ive read on other forums about terrible accuracy issues with these 3inch group at 20 yard from fac rifles.... I notice in the video its all about energy retention and very little on accuracy ... energy retention isn't worth jack if you cant hit a barn door with them is it?.

 

 

kanny

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Re Accuracy - As stated made for South Africa - several years ago and still buying large numbers

 

Now if no good they would not be buying them -

 

The Video was commissioned by Pax - and yes I have passed on link - I am a long time associate of Pax - not a employee

 

Much time and Effort was put into Design and Testing

 

If the Guns pin is larger than rear - there will be issues over Accuracy

 

But they do work well when right head size is used - in most precharged Air Guns

 

Some much another Manufacture - Europe wanted them made for them as patented -

 

Design and purpose is to offer the Best Down Range hitting Power -

 

BOB/R

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my experience with the pax pellets is that you just have to try them,

 

Ogives for me were god awful

 

HFT were (and still are) great for my rifle, they are the ones i currently use

 

so ill give them a whirl and find out first hand :thumbs:

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I bet you they group like cannon balls shot from a sinking ship. At least at sub 12.

 

I would be interested to see some of the target tarts put these to the test. For real. In real conditions.

 

Doubter? Yes!

 

I will club together with somebody ( the more the merrier ) and get a pack of .22

If folk with .177 are interested then there is no reason both can't be tried.

 

I will test them in a sub 12 regged pre charged and an FAC unregged. In normal conditions ie. out in the field.

 

Anybody willing to throw money away ideally should have similar powered rifles. Preferably a springer or two so the results are not bias.

 

And a chrono!!

 

Anybody up for it then PM me.

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