moonlighter 1,163 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Dog will win, much quicker take off and faster on the turns. Mind you, I've only been ferreting with a Harris and not a gos. Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 An old mate of mine used to fly a big old mexican import harris hawk many years ago.. I would have put that against most dogs ive seen and it would have given a good account of itself. . .It was hot on the bunnies and caught bolters as quick as any dog ive seen..It would just sit on the spade over the burrow and practically drop on the bunnies on there way out..Seen it pull a few out of the holes also when they try diving back down. . . he would catch something everytime he was out with that bird and it loved the long ears. . . he lamped at night with it also. . .it was a flying Lurcher. ! Ive seen a few since and they were useless... too small for the job and not trained the same way.. Some people have the gift with dogs and birds just naturally and others will just strive to try. The reason my old mate was good with the hawks I put down to his natural field craft skills that he always had from his old days with the ferrets and lurchers..he understood how to get the bird working like a fine tuned part of the pack.. Theres thousands of people out there with hawks etc etc but not so many who know the countryside enough to get the best out them birds. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) Theres thousands of people out there with hawks etc etc but not so many who know the countryside enough to get the best out them birds. Too right... We often bolt rabbits for Hawking enthusiasts,..Corporate Days, paying guests, etc,..and it is noticeable, that the guys who have done a bit of hunting,.and who know the score,..always seem to have their birds in good yarak and are mentally primed and ready,.. to intercept the bolt... All the best, Phil. Edited July 4, 2013 by Phil Lloyd Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 An old mate of mine used to fly a big old mexican import harris hawk many years ago.. I would have put that against most dogs ive seen and it would have given a good account of itself. . .It was hot on the bunnies and caught bolters as quick as any dog ive seen..It would just sit on the spade over the burrow and practically drop on the bunnies on there way out..Seen it pull a few out of the holes also when they try diving back down. . . he would catch something everytime he was out with that bird and it loved the long ears. . . he lamped at night with it also. . .it was a flying Lurcher. ! Ive seen a few since and they were useless... too small for the job and not trained the same way.. Some people have the gift with dogs and birds just naturally and others will just strive to try. The reason my old mate was good with the hawks I put down to his natural field craft skills that he always had from his old days with the ferrets and lurchers..he understood how to get the bird working like a fine tuned part of the pack.. Theres thousands of people out there with hawks etc etc but not so many who know the countryside enough to get the best out them birds. Too right... We often bolt rabbits for Hawking enthusiasts,..Corporate Days, paying guests, etc,..and it is noticeable, that the guys who have done a bit of hunting,.and who know the score,..always seem to have their birds in good yarak and are mentally ready,.. to intercept the bolt... Some Hawks, Harris, Red Tails and of course,.. Gos,.are streets ahead of their fellow avian predators,..same as certain dogs,.and their owners,...seem to make much better,..keener,..more successful hunters... All the best, Phil. I bet you've seen some good flights Phil. . . and your spot with what you say. Them goshawks are very impressive/explosive hunters..but I will say one thing about them Harris Hawks if you get a few good lads with good birds who know what they are doing..they are a very formidable team..especially when the birds work well together with the dogs and hunting partners..nothing gets away. ..it great to see them working like a pack following on with the dogs etc etc. But when all is said and done you can't do big big bags with hawks like you can with the dogs..its impossible with the food based training etc etc..they soon get full up and refuse to work etc etc.. unless you got a lot of hawks.. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) Yes, I've seen some exciting hunts with various birds of prey,...but, got to admit, I've never fancied owning one... Edited July 4, 2013 by Phil Lloyd 1 Quote Link to post
joe54 83 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 great pics and vidoe mate love it Quote Link to post
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