Dubba 72 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Id disagree that there a redundant digit perhaps whoever did that study should watch a few working dogs lifting themselves out holes or climbing banks etc then say there "redundant" and they certainly do come into contact with the ground when a dog turns tightly. I think I've been lucky maybe as I've never had one injured where it needed to be removed. Had the odd bash but they were caused when the dogs were chasing each other or my fault when running the dogs on ground that was probably far to hard. The only thing I would do was ever few runs just remove As I said there the one nail that I've never had to trim because of length, think that shows just how much they use them. Why leave something that could just get injured later? Well why remove something that helps your dog turn sharper Quote Link to post
hargreavesheber 93 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 My bitch had em on and I had no end of hassle with her either splitting the nail next to the nail bed or twisting them clean off. Enough was enough the vet removed them last Thursday. All be it my bank balance is £260 lighter but the bitch will be better off without them in the long run. If I had a litter they would be coming off for sure.. Atb do you use that vet all the time mate had his dogs dewclaws off and a few stiches on a cut £135 big difference to £260 i think the point is, if whoever bred that litter had taken the trouble to remove them. then there would have been no cost at all got to agree but as we know some vets just rip the piss No fella. Don't use them all the time . Was more than I was thinking of thats for sure. To be fair I rang round and all the vets were around that price. ... no more hassle from the dam nails thats 4 sure... . Anesthetic was £117. Dog only weighs 11.8kg..christ knows what it'd have been for a big dog... Atb Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Id disagree that there a redundant digit perhaps whoever did that study should watch a few working dogs lifting themselves out holes or climbing banks etc then say there "redundant" and they certainly do come into contact with the ground when a dog turns tightly. I think I've been lucky maybe as I've never had one injured where it needed to be removed. Had the odd bash but they were caused when the dogs were chasing each other or my fault when running the dogs on ground that was probably far to hard. The only thing I would do was ever few runs just remove As I said there the one nail that I've never had to trim because of length, think that shows just how much they use them. Why leave something that could just get injured later? Well why remove something that helps your dog turn sharper in a word..................BOLDERDASH there is a lot of things that contribute to a dogs ability to turn but dew claws i am afraid are not even close to making the list Quote Link to post
hargreavesheber 93 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 My bitch had em on and I had no end of hassle with her either splitting the nail next to the nail bed or twisting them clean off. Enough was enough the vet removed them last Thursday. All be it my bank balance is £260 lighter but the bitch will be better off without them in the long run. If I had a litter they would be coming off for sure.. Atb do you use that vet all the time mate had his dogs dewclaws off and a few stiches on a cut £135 big difference to £260 i think the point is, if whoever bred that litter had taken the trouble to remove them. then there would have been no cost at all The old fella who bred the litter did try and remove dew claws. Some had em and some didn't. The old guy was in his 80's and not got the best sight. So he said.. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 They are a redundant digit. Fact. They serve no purpose. Do a quick web search. When dogs evolved the dew claw grew high up from its predecessors. I can't remember the exact terminology but honestly have a look on the net. As Paul said. Why leave on a possible issue. Even if only 10% gave problems. Why take that chance? i believe most are left on due to the fact the people that breed them don't know how to remove them Is that the same with recall training? Lol Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 They are a redundant digit. Fact. They serve no purpose. Do a quick web search. When dogs evolved the dew claw grew high up from its predecessors. I can't remember the exact terminology but honestly have a look on the net. As Paul said. Why leave on a possible issue. Even if only 10% gave problems. Why take that chance? i believe most are left on due to the fact the people that breed them don't know how to remove them Is that the same with recall training? Lol couldnt tell you. i have not seen mine for a week Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Id disagree that there a redundant digit perhaps whoever did that study should watch a few working dogs lifting themselves out holes or climbing banks etc then say there "redundant" and they certainly do come into contact with the ground when a dog turns tightly. I think I've been lucky maybe as I've never had one injured where it needed to be removed. Had the odd bash but they were caused when the dogs were chasing each other or my fault when running the dogs on ground that was probably far to hard. The only thing I would do was ever few runs just remove As I said there the one nail that I've never had to trim because of length, think that shows just how much they use them. Why leave something that could just get injured later? Well why remove something that helps your dog turn sharper There is no way a dew claw helps a dog turn. FFS. All these top coursing lads breeding pups fetching thousands at a few months old wouldnt be removing the dew claws if they helped the dog turn. And there is NO way the dog keeps its dew claws short by climbing river banks. Christ almighty i read some shit on here. 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 They are a redundant digit. Fact. They serve no purpose. Do a quick web search. When dogs evolved the dew claw grew high up from its predecessors. I can't remember the exact terminology but honestly have a look on the net. As Paul said. Why leave on a possible issue. Even if only 10% gave problems. Why take that chance? i believe most are left on due to the fact the people that breed them don't know how to remove them Is that the same with recall training? Lol couldnt tell you. i have not seen mine for a week That made me chuckle. "BEEENNSSSSOOOOONNNN" Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Id disagree that there a redundant digit perhaps whoever did that study should watch a few working dogs lifting themselves out holes or climbing banks etc then say there "redundant" and they certainly do come into contact with the ground when a dog turns tightly. I think I've been lucky maybe as I've never had one injured where it needed to be removed. Had the odd bash but they were caused when the dogs were chasing each other or my fault when running the dogs on ground that was probably far to hard. The only thing I would do was ever few runs just remove As I said there the one nail that I've never had to trim because of length, think that shows just how much they use them. Why leave something that could just get injured later? Well why remove something that helps your dog turn sharper :laugh: Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 They are a redundant digit. Fact. They serve no purpose. Do a quick web search. When dogs evolved the dew claw grew high up from its predecessors. I can't remember the exact terminology but honestly have a look on the net. As Paul said. Why leave on a possible issue. Even if only 10% gave problems. Why take that chance? i believe most are left on due to the fact the people that breed them don't know how to remove them Is that the same with recall training? Lol couldnt tell you. i have not seen mine for a week That made me chuckle. "BEEENNSSSSOOOOONNNN" i was thinking more along the lines of "lassie come home" Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 They are a redundant digit. Fact. They serve no purpose. Do a quick web search. When dogs evolved the dew claw grew high up from its predecessors. I can't remember the exact terminology but honestly have a look on the net. As Paul said. Why leave on a possible issue. Even if only 10% gave problems. Why take that chance? i believe most are left on due to the fact the people that breed them don't know how to remove them Is that the same with recall training? Lol couldnt tell you. i have not seen mine for a week That made me chuckle. "BEEENNSSSSOOOOONNNN" i was thinking more along the lines of "lassie come home" She will be home in a minute. shes just rounding some sheep... Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Id disagree that there a redundant digit perhaps whoever did that study should watch a few working dogs lifting themselves out holes or climbing banks etc then say there "redundant" and they certainly do come into contact with the ground when a dog turns tightly. I think I've been lucky maybe as I've never had one injured where it needed to be removed. Had the odd bash but they were caused when the dogs were chasing each other or my fault when running the dogs on ground that was probably far to hard. The only thing I would do was ever few runs just remove As I said there the one nail that I've never had to trim because of length, think that shows just how much they use them. Why leave something that could just get injured later? Well why remove something that helps your dog turn sharper :laugh: This is the same guy who started the "training a dogs ears to stay down" thread. Lol. 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Id disagree that there a redundant digit perhaps whoever did that study should watch a few working dogs lifting themselves out holes or climbing banks etc then say there "redundant" and they certainly do come into contact with the ground when a dog turns tightly. I think I've been lucky maybe as I've never had one injured where it needed to be removed. Had the odd bash but they were caused when the dogs were chasing each other or my fault when running the dogs on ground that was probably far to hard. The only thing I would do was ever few runs just remove As I said there the one nail that I've never had to trim because of length, think that shows just how much they use them. Why leave something that could just get injured later? Well why remove something that helps your dog turn sharper :laugh: This is the same guy who started the "training a dogs ears to stay down" thread. Lol. could always hook them over the dew claws Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Most dogs i,v had have had them on and tbh i,v had trouble with only one and they were removed by the vet, the dog i have now has them on, i wish the lad who bred her had taken them off but he didnt and i wanted a pup out of his bitch as a previous litter all did well, i had to swallow and take one as it was her second and last litter, i hope she doesnt have trouble with them but if she does she,ll be off to the vets, my choice would be dew claws off while pups but if they are left on then leave them be, the chances are you wont have trouble, if you do its the vets job, atb, buster. Quote Link to post
Dubba 72 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Your right Gaz that was me and that dog I was asking about wasn't mine as i said I just said I'd ask for them, I thought the whole thing was a piss take to. And of course they won't keep there dew claws down by just by climbing river banks its a combination of all work. Quote There is no way a dew claw helps a dog turn. FFS. All these top coursing lads breeding pups fetching thousands at a few months old wouldnt be removing the dew claws if they helped the dog turn. Most do leave them on fella Quote Link to post
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