123hw80 9 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 hello all i am new to semi and need some help i have got a Beretta a 301 and i wanted to shoot improved cylinder so i tuck the choke out off then gun and i can feel a lip where the choke slides up to do i need a buy a improved cylinder choke so they is no lip in the barrel if so dose anyone know where i can buy one to blank the lip to make it smooth all way through thanks Jordan 1 Quote Link to post
Night Hunter 109 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I don't think it is a good idea to be firing a semi without some sort of choke in it could cause damage to the end of the barrel mate if I were you I would try to source an improved choke . Quote Link to post
123hw80 9 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 ano pal thats why i havnt done it , do you know anywhere where i might be able to get hold on a improved choke thanks Quote Link to post
ginga john 268 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Any gun shop will get you one, doesn't have to be a Beretta choke just have to be made to fit the gun 1 Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Just shoot the bloody thing with the quarter choke you have in it, the difference between imp and quarter is nine tenths of f-ck all lol. 1 Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I agree with Charlie, Any reason you desperately want improved cylinder? It's known as a "Skeet" choke with some companies, for shooting targets close in and crossing rather than an all rounder. Quote Link to post
Hawkeye. 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Without a choke sleeve is ok , that's your skeet choke. I used one for many year's and thousand's of cartridges with no problem. Keep the nut on the end of the barrel though. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Yes that will be true cylinder in fact, improved is a little tighter, but as the eminent James Wentworth Day used to say choke is an invention of the devil Quote Link to post
Cliff Ray 185 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Chokes actually have nothing to do with the spread of shot at all, they only control your mind !!! For years I have used 3/4 in a Benelli semi for clays, foxes and everything else, but but back in November I decoyed some wood pigeon so close they turned into mince meat. The logically step seemed to be a looser choke as I could then not miss, but as soon as I put that in I hit nothing at all. Back to the 3/4 and everything is hit again Quote Link to post
Hawkeye. 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Absolute nonsense! Shoot at a pattern plate with true cylinder and then Full choke , then compare . Quote Link to post
TwoSmokingBarrels 11 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Absolute nonsense! Shoot at a pattern plate with true cylinder and then Full choke , then compare . +1 Quote Link to post
Cliff Ray 185 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Well just how stupid do you need to be to think I was serious? PS In case you didn't realise that is rhetorical. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Well let me just say, shoot big shot out of your tight choke wildfowling and you will ruin your pattern, I use nothing but imp cylinder in my Benelli auto for everything and believe me I have killed enough ducks stone dead at 45 yards plus to be absolutely convinced that open chokes are best, it always makes me laugh to see equipment man changing his chokes for every stand clay shooting and then go and shoot like a tw-t, tight chokes may have a place on the clay line for some disciplines, but for normal game/rough/wildfowling they are a handicap. Quote Link to post
Hawkeye. 26 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Well just how stupid do you need to be to think I was serious? PS In case you didn't realise that is rhetorical. About as stupid as the twat who turned pigeon into mincemeat Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I've seen game shooters out with 3/4 and full in their guns firing 36gr of No.4 at very high pheasants, yet their kill rate is often atrocious. I've given up trying to explain patterns, blown patterns, penetration, malleability of shot and velocity because it falls on deaf ears. I know that with 1/4 and 3/8 anything dies just as well with 28gr of 7s as it does with some nonsensical huge load providing you put the shot in the right place and stick to proper kill ranges. Quote Link to post
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