youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 looking forward to seeing a pic of him and hearing a few stories ha theres something i like about redtails which makes me jealous as hell to anyone who flys them Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 A fit MHH, that hits hard and binds will have no problem with squirrels. I never had a problem with using chaps, maybe I was lucky but they never restricted the bird. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yes it was a hard decision to make, even thought about a male gos for a bit, but as I love my lamping a gos is out really, and as I really like squirrel hawking as well everything just kept saying redtail, have to say they do look the business on kills,and that footing power is awesome, I just hope the stories I might relate don't consist mainly of me spending hours under trees swinging a lure lol 1 Quote Link to post
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yes it was a hard decision to make, even thought about a male gos for a bit, but as I love my lamping a gos is out really, and as I really like squirrel hawking as well everything just kept saying redtail, have to say they do look the business on kills,and that footing power is awesome, I just hope the stories I might relate don't consist mainly of me spending hours under trees swinging a lure lol i hope not aswell lol, its a b*****d that only happened once, sat under the same tree for hours then at last light decided to go home and come back first thing and the f****r followed me down to my feet lol Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 We shall see how it goes, but I know the males are a bit more biddable than the females, the thing with redtails is all about finding a weight they will fly at then repetition and good rewards, the mistake is to keep dropping the weight, then they get dangerous, or go into fasting mode. 1 Quote Link to post
j j m 6,539 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 as long as you have good quality chaps on the feet you will be fine Quote Link to post
CrowHawker 227 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 It's like any part of falconry you get your bird for the type of quarry you have and a male Harris is not the bird for squirrels I couldn't fly a male at them nowing what could happen not worth the danger male red on squirrels now were talking! 3 Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Indeed mate, and I am convinced razor sharp talons are essential, for squirrel hawking,my fhh talons were always razor sharp and she had a few and never got bitten,in fact on a couple the talon had penetrated the eye into the brain, so no biting there Quote Link to post
pointer 543 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 I would have thought that if a hawk caught enough squirrels it would eventually get bitten. At times they will not be able to grab the head and at other times will land on soft or uneven ground. I imagine it would be pure luck for a hawk to do a lot of squirrelling and not get bit at all. Every now and then one of my dogs would take a few bites getting a rat out of a tight spot etc but would kill its next twenty with not a scratch. There are several factors that play their part when hunting quarry that can bite back. It might be different with hawks than dogs but I can't see how, the totally committed animal grabs whatever part it can on any terrain. It's out of our hands anyway with a free flying bird all we can do to assist best we can. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Yes of course it is a chance, everytime you slip your dog, bird,whatever, but if you did not take any chances you would never work your animals, I have always thought it a risk worth taking, some may not,shit happens if the dog/bird/horse ect gets killed or injured doing what it does then so be it, life is full of risks. 1 Quote Link to post
pointer 543 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 I agree, working animals face injury and death every time they go out. I've had my own terrier die to ground and a lurcher break its neck plus other fairly nasty accidents. All we can do are minimise the risks by being able to control the biting squirrel ASAP. 1 Quote Link to post
Bluebell h 69 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Well come October ill be hunting [BANNED TEXT] ever she wants to have this will be my fhh 3rd season and I'm going for it now on I had to seasons nice and steady 24 rabbits 5 squirels a fair few pheasants season just gone 50 rabbits no squirels but a lot more pheasants 1 partridge to chickens they were not intended so ill keep u chaps up to date come the season ! Atb 1 Quote Link to post
trappa 518 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 It's like any part of falconry you get your bird for the type of quarry you have and a male Harris is not the bird for squirrels I couldn't fly a male at them nowing what could happen not worth the danger male red on squirrels now were talking! Your bang on. A male harris is an accident waiting to happen. Strongly advise against if its a male as they arent strong enough or big enough to take a squirrel confidently. YOu need the right bird for the job , female harris or a red and then only if the bird meets a certain criteria. Quote Link to post
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 It's like any part of falconry you get your bird for the type of quarry you have and a male Harris is not the bird for squirrels I couldn't fly a male at them nowing what could happen not worth the danger male red on squirrels now were talking! Your bang on. A male harris is an accident waiting to happen. Strongly advise against if its a male as they arent strong enough or big enough to take a squirrel confidently. YOu need the right bird for the job , female harris or a red and then only if the bird meets a certain criteria. decided against it bud, unless it happens by accident i aint going out looking for trouble Quote Link to post
trappa 518 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 NIce one mate, good choice. Would hate to see you posting photos of a bitten hawk. You will get some amazing sport with a male harris still, they are pocket rockets in the right hands. Quote Link to post
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