Saluki246 1,053 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Thanks. They seem to like the racer well, seems a good mixer with mine. Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Do many lads give a starve day once a week? I miss days out but not as often as once a week it helps give them a good appetite Fussy eaters are a pain, sometimes its hard to keep good eaters in condition when there under the cosh never mind a fussy eater. 1 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Do many lads give a starve day once a week? I miss days out but not as often as once a week it helps give them a good appetite Fussy eaters are a pain, sometimes its hard to keep good eaters in condition when there under the cosh never mind a fussy eater. Carnivores in captivity are given a starve day or 2 a week ment to be good for them,but they wouldn't get much work.I can never bring myself to do it though,but like to keep them guessing somedays just give them a handful. Agree about the fussy ness,Found the worst thing to do is be feeding pups 2/3 times a day as soon as there big enough I give them one meal a day,and they will eat what ever you put down. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 So from what I have gathered from everyone so far..no one feeds thier dogs solely on a Raw/barf diet ? Everyone uses some form of kibble/complete. . ? SO what about the way the food is broken down by the dogs metabolism..If you are mixing Raw with Complete the raw will be digested much quicker than the complete and then the body will be working harder to digest the complete remaining ? Would this have anything to do with the way they store energy and fats etc etc. Would a Meal of RAW food be better before a long day/night out with plenty of animal Fat added...Or would the complete still be better becasue it will be in the dogs system a lot longer ( like porrige ). Sorry chaps for all the questions... Its been very educational some of the answers So far. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to post
Desmond 480 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) So from what I have gathered from everyone so far..no one feeds thier dogs solely on a Raw/barf diet ? Everyone uses some form of kibble/complete. . ? SO what about the way the food is broken down by the dogs metabolism..If you are mixing Raw with Complete the raw will be digested much quicker than the complete and then the body will be working harder to digest the complete remaining ? Would this have anything to do with the way they store energy and fats etc etc. Would a Meal of RAW food be better before a long day/night out with plenty of animal Fat added...Or would the complete still be better becasue it will be in the dogs system a lot longer ( like porrige ). Sorry chaps for all the questions... Its been very educational some of the answers So far. Thanks everyone. Keeping and feeding dogs shouldn't get to this,a mans having a breakdown here :laugh: Edited June 28, 2013 by Desmond 1 Quote Link to post
kanigra 110 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 fat is a slow realese energie source, skcat,,,sugars are quik release, in fact fat is sloer than complex carbs Way slower and really cant be released hardly at all once heart rate is increased to a certain point. Its a resting energy release for the most part. In the human body fat is only used as a source of energy when carb sources are depleted. That's why long slow running over 30 minute is recommended in humans for losing weight. In dogs IMO the days leading to a hunt should be carb based so that the dog can store energy sources then when finished the hunt a high protein feed for recovery. But at end of day no diet be any good without fitness I agree with body fat is an energy but its been proved that high intensity training is better for fitness.A well known coursing man said the same for his dogs ie lure sprints,lamping rabbits on say a golf course(short grass) is better than hrs of endless jogging on a treadmill or behind a bike! Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 So from what I have gathered from everyone so far..no one feeds thier dogs solely on a Raw/barf diet ? Everyone uses some form of kibble/complete. . ? SO what about the way the food is broken down by the dogs metabolism..If you are mixing Raw with Complete the raw will be digested much quicker than the complete and then the body will be working harder to digest the complete remaining ? Would this have anything to do with the way they store energy and fats etc etc. Would a Meal of RAW food be better before a long day/night out with plenty of animal Fat added...Or would the complete still be better becasue it will be in the dogs system a lot longer ( like porrige ). Sorry chaps for all the questions... Its been very educational some of the answers So far. Thanks everyone. Keeping and feeding dogs shouldn't get to this,a mans having a breakdown here :laugh: cheers Desmond.. When I was a lad they were lucky if they got some Chappie mixed into there sack of Lucky Dog Complete or Vitalin ( gold if you were feeling flush). Quote Link to post
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,482 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Brown bread pasta redmills tribe beef cod liver oil v tablets fish whole rabbit and hare no guts all this but just mix it aboutAll of the above except i use gain,Garlic,milk eggs, scraps,fat ,tins of oily fish,what evers around,good varied diet.Easy as that really,saves reading vets journals and worrying about carbs and shit..Do many lads give a starve day once a week? garlic is toxic to dogs 1 Quote Link to post
Banter 1,751 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Brown bread pasta redmills tribe beef cod liver oil v tablets fish whole rabbit and hare no guts all this but just mix it aboutAll of the above except i use gain,Garlic,milk eggs, scraps,fat ,tins of oily fish,what evers around,good varied diet.Easy as that really,saves reading vets journals and worrying about carbs and shit.. Do many lads give a starve day once a week? garlic is toxic to dogs was used a lot to keep them worm free 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Brown bread pasta redmills tribe beef cod liver oil v tablets fish whole rabbit and hare no guts all this but just mix it aboutAll of the above except i use gain,Garlic,milk eggs, scraps,fat ,tins of oily fish,what evers around,good varied diet.Easy as that really,saves reading vets journals and worrying about carbs and shit..Do many lads give a starve day once a week? garlic is toxic to dogs No its not but onions are ....... Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Brown bread pasta redmills tribe beef cod liver oil v tablets fish whole rabbit and hare no guts all this but just mix it aboutAll of the above except i use gain,Garlic,milk eggs, scraps,fat ,tins of oily fish,what evers around,good varied diet.Easy as that really,saves reading vets journals and worrying about carbs and shit..Do many lads give a starve day once a week? garlic is toxic to dogs[/quote. So is cod liver oil if you feed to much,personally only seen good points from feeding garlica couple a times a week.untill one of mine drops dead from eating a clove of garlic I will keep feeding it,keeping down parasites and good coat. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Brown bread pasta redmills tribe beef cod liver oil v tablets fish whole rabbit and hare no guts all this but just mix it aboutAll of the above except i use gain,Garlic,milk eggs, scraps,fat ,tins of oily fish,what evers around,good varied diet.Easy as that really,saves reading vets journals and worrying about carbs and shit.. Do many lads give a starve day once a week? garlic is toxic to dogs anyone told the dogs? Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 So from what I have gathered from everyone so far..no one feeds thier dogs solely on a Raw/barf diet ? Everyone uses some form of kibble/complete. . ? SO what about the way the food is broken down by the dogs metabolism..If you are mixing Raw with Complete the raw will be digested much quicker than the complete and then the body will be working harder to digest the complete remaining ? Would this have anything to do with the way they store energy and fats etc etc. Would a Meal of RAW food be better before a long day/night out with plenty of animal Fat added...Or would the complete still be better becasue it will be in the dogs system a lot longer ( like porrige ). Sorry chaps for all the questions... Its been very educational some of the answers So far. Thanks everyone. Vin I feed my dogs on only raw and bone with veg and fruit mixed in and I get tremendous results ... The pup below was 7 or 8 months when this pic was taken and she worked all day on 20+ degrees with no problems at all ....... Below is a before and after picture of one of the greys I used to own and train ...before was when the fella owned him fed him on a high quality complete food and after was 2 months later after eating purely a raw diet ....... And here he is winning one of his many race wins on a raw only diet ........ Edited to add I can't get the link to load ... Type in Naomi's lad on YouTube ......... Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 So from what I have gathered from everyone so far..no one feeds thier dogs solely on a Raw/barf diet ? Everyone uses some form of kibble/complete. . ? SO what about the way the food is broken down by the dogs metabolism..If you are mixing Raw with Complete the raw will be digested much quicker than the complete and then the body will be working harder to digest the complete remaining ? Would this have anything to do with the way they store energy and fats etc etc. Would a Meal of RAW food be better before a long day/night out with plenty of animal Fat added...Or would the complete still be better becasue it will be in the dogs system a lot longer ( like porrige ). Sorry chaps for all the questions... Its been very educational some of the answers So far. Thanks everyone. Vin I feed my dogs on only raw and bone with veg and fruit mixed in and I get tremendous results ... The pup below was 7 or 8 months when this pic was taken and she worked all day on 20+ degrees with no problems at all ....... Below is a before and after picture of one of the greys I used to own and train ...before was when the fella owned him fed him on a high quality complete food and after was 2 months later after eating purely a raw diet ....... And here he is winning one of his many race wins on a raw only diet ........ Edited to add I can't get the link to load ... Type in Naomi's lad on YouTube ......... Cheers Kenneth. . . That,ll do for me. . . no kibble in my dogs. Quote Link to post
fatlad 250 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 cheers max ive been putting it in seperate bowls will mix it with the raw Quote Link to post
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