Top Line Coursing Dog Men..question About Dog Diets.

[inan 841]

 

 

When I go for a run I take a tin of tuna with me,is this anygood lads?

That depends entirely on the type of tin,

 

If it is one of the old fashioned ones that need a tin opener to access the contents,ie "quick release", or if it is the newer type with the built in thumb puller,ie quick release

 

.Totally different effects will be felt, depending on your choice of tin.I can't stress how important this is.

 

Its vital to get the type that suits your dog.

 

eg Fast away dog = quick release tin.Slow away = slow release tin

 

.Always check the tin

 

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks,i sometimes take a tinned fray bentos steak pie aswell

 

Do so, but be careful not to overload on the carbs.

 

[goldfinch2007 2,332]

bag o speed you need desmond.share it with the dog

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

 

 

 

When I go for a run I take a tin of tuna with me,is this anygood lads?

yeah when you start flagging after the dog you can tuck in between runs get ya energy back up , you still serving that rather nice rice pudding up the one with a pinch of nutmeg

 

Only dead of winter pal,the fens flyer gets a teaspoon of the finest raspberry conserve in hers and manuka honey and a sprinkle of hundrerds and thousands

 

which brand of preserve details I need details

 

Bonne Maman jam...25 strength manuka :toast:

 

I hear tell of some of the purest form of manuka known to man kind 99% pure off to purchase a case of Bonne Maman as we speak, I knew it was the robertsons jam I used that let me down last year

[Desmond 480]

bag o speed you need desmond.share it with the dog

have you found your way out of malton yet

[goldfinch2007 2,332]

 

bag o speed you need desmond.share it with the dog

have you found your way out of malton yet

 

yeah the nice police man brought me home though

[Desmond 480]

you are what you eat simple

So what are you a f***ing croissant :laugh:

[killing crew 2,708]

 

you are what you eat simple

So what are you a f*****g croissant :laugh:

 

what about when i used to eat all your pack lunch your lass made up for you

[inan 841]

 

 

 

 

 

When I go for a run I take a tin of tuna with me,is this anygood lads?

yeah when you start flagging after the dog you can tuck in between runs get ya energy back up , you still serving that rather nice rice pudding up the one with a pinch of nutmeg

 

Only dead of winter pal,the fens flyer gets a teaspoon of the finest raspberry conserve in hers and manuka honey and a sprinkle of hundrerds and thousands

 

which brand of preserve details I need details

 

Bonne Maman jam...25 strength manuka :toast:

 

I hear tell of some of the purest form of manuka known to man kind 99% pure off to purchase a case of Bonne Maman as we speak, I knew it was the robertsons jam I used that let me down last year

 

 

bag o speed you need desmond.share it with the dog

All winners of best of 3 matches are to be tested for P E D's this coming season.

[DEERMAN 1,020]

 

 

 

 

fat is a slow realese energie source, skcat,,,sugars are quik release, in fact fat is sloer than complex carbs

Way slower and really cant be released hardly at all once heart rate is increased to a certain point. Its a resting energy release for the most part.

In the human body fat is only used as a source of energy when carb sources are depleted. That's why long slow running over 30 minute is recommended in humans for losing weight.

 

In dogs IMO the days leading to a hunt should be carb based so that the dog can store energy sources then when finished the hunt a high protein feed for recovery. But at end of day no diet be any good without fitness

short sprints over a duration of 20mins (interval training ) will lose more weight than a slow run over 30mins ....after exercise a high carb based diet is the best to add recovery , same with dogs .....exercise and diet go hand in hand ,one without the other is no good

Short bursts your using mostly carbs so i wouldnt recommend that for loosing weight and as for a high carb diet for after training I have to disagree yes they are important to recover stores but protein is number 1 to help rebuild the damaged muscle and recove

 

yes you need protein but without carbs after exercise its as good as tits on a fish...

[birddog 1,354]

there are dozens of books on feeding and nutrition.......there are probably thousands of internet articles on the same...........everyone and every dog is different......but what really gets me all these clever experts using scientific terminology........and they cant use a spellchecker

[tinytiger 840]

 

fat is a slow realese energie source, skcat,,,sugars are quik release, in fact fat is sloer than complex carbs

 

Way slower and really cant be released hardly at all once heart rate is increased to a certain point. Its a resting energy release for the most part.

 

i think thats in humans rather than in dogs(i.e dogs are much more efficient at burning fat)-as far as i know excercise physiologists did experiments in which they starved dogs and ran them on treadmills-no effect on performance-Though id say they were running them at way below sighthound type speeds..

[brazer 287]

 

you are what you eat simple

So what are you a f*****g croissant :laugh:

 

A Mars bar he would eat himself and he licks the wrapper

[skycat 6,173]

Google it if you like: there are loads of articles on how dogs use fat as their primary energy source. I first learned this when I was working in the pet food trade back in the 90s: went on a nutrition course. Dogs aren't like humans in the way they use carbs and fat. Fact is that dogs will survive on just about anything: high carb diet, high protein no carbs, etc etc. Which is why an average diet, one type 'fits all' is used by so many people as most dogs can do quite well on a not completely appropriate diet. It's only when you are feeding for peak performance especially in endurance competitions that dogs need very specific types of food. Look at the Iditarod runners. For many years those dogs were running on fatty fish, dried.

 

 

Here's an interesting article I found a couple of years ago: http://nutrition.highwire.org/content/128/12/2686S.full

When they speak of distance dogs here they refer to Beagles, which are running for miles and miles, compared to a coursing dog that may well run a couple of miles or more per course, but is then rested, or should be, for half an hour or so before running again. I guess I can see where Dan is coming from when he says that sighthound are all sprinting, and I guess they are, when compared with a Beagle, but the fact that Greyhounds and Salukis have different nutritional requirements remains true.

[salukixgrey 779]

i only feed my 2 pups gain puppy and sapling and cooked mince meat, they seem to do ok. ive never really used suppliments only recharge after a hard run.

[Guest vin]

So what how do you get carbs into a dog on a Barf diet without giving it cooked pasta/rice/ brown bread ? (these being processed foods etc etc).

 

Whats the best sources of RAW carbs ? What would a wolf or wIld dog take into his diet for Carbs ?

 

I get the Fat content and understand that bit and agree totally... I think this is why is the easiest option to mix Raw with Complete etc etc because its hard work getting a good balance thats perfect for every dog...its all down to the individual dog and different workloads etc etc.