Millet 4,497 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 For the record i have nothing again'st hgv's or there driver's on motorway's and duel carriageway's they have a monotonous job to do that i would not thank you for..i will slow down to let one out and i will flash one out when they indicate's to over take..i'm sure it's just a minority of driver's just like car driver's that get folk's back's up with silly dangerous manover's.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,495 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 ffs you hgv drivers are wimps ...my dads been driving a truck for over 20 yrs , he dont drive none of your fancy aircon feels like your driving a car model either he is in an old s reg ERF olympic (moved up from a d reg about 3yr ago) he gets a % of what the truck earns if it dont earn nothing he gets nothing , he gets minimum wage after being sat idle for 2hrs if theres a delay in his load... he spent a full week stuck in snow on the woodhead one year... does he moan? does he feck he just gets on with it , some of you lads want to get out on general haulage , loading 600 bales of hay or straw by hand then roping and sheeting in the rain bet half of you who are moaning are just trunking all day long Done that I started off working for farmers,the first truck I bought was an ERF (ive driven loads in fact there my all time fave lorry and had to be prized out of my latest one to drive a poxy merc)and I bought another in Luxembourg to do the continental in a left hooker 525 14 litre Olympic that had aircon.Yep I can moan mate coz apart from car transporters and F1 I've done most of it in my time,your dad may have done it but you haven't. but i have well all but the driving , i spent my early teens right up to being about 25 working on trucks and going out on any abnormal and hand ball loads ... moved over 10,000 bales of straw in one week , hand ball on hand ball off and stacking them in a barn , spent every spare hour in a truck helping out and moved some pretty amazing loads (nowt special just out of the ordinary) alot of todays truckers wouldnt know how to rope and sheet and infact if seen truckers who cant work a fecking ratchet strap i think its one of them jobs you either like it or you hate it ERF would be my favourite to, been in all differant models , including the first gardner 8cyl to be turbo charged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,495 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16693939@N07/8728214815/in/pool-1068711@N20 thats a proper truck westy and me dads truck he drives is an R reg not an S http://www.flickr.com/photos/16693939@N07/8602279695/in/pool-1068711@N20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,495 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 http://www.flickr.com/groups/1068711@N20/pool/with/8602279695/#photo_8602279695 if you got an interest in old ERFs check some of them ones out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I've got to agree with some of the above posts; in general, HGV drivers do a great job, and providing you treat them with respect on the roads they reciprocate. The problem is car drivers. They treat anyone who is driving anything slower than them as a nuisance. Yesterday, I was towing the trailer back from Exmoor, up the M5 and than A303. I was rolling along nicely; sticking to just above the speed limit of 60mph on the dual carriageways and 50mph on the single carriageways. The idiots that overtook me ignoring double white lines and cutting in front of me forcing me to brake were at each roundabout just in front of me. It always amazes me that so many people are willing to take a chance and risk their lives just to travel an extra mile or two an hour. I've a feeling CB was excluded from the law regarding mobiles; but I'm happy to be proved wrong. I've got one in the van as the mobile signal is shite in some of the areas I work in and the farmers all still use it around here. It's got me out of trouble a few times, and breaks up the boredom of a journey when there's shite on the wireless. Ever wondered why you're sat in a two mile queue on the motorway? Ask the truckers flying past on the opposite carriageway and they usually know the answer........ The biggest issue we have is that others on the roads just don't know are speed limits and that all the big firms wagons are tracked and flag you up on screen if your speeding,single carriageway max is 40mph,dual carriageway is 50mph and motorway is 56mph and that is max limit as all the trucks are limited to 56 but some are limited as low as 50 for lower insurance rates.I think you can still be done for using the mike but coppers discretion and the cb is great for traffic issues. Still annoying though isn't it? I bet a lorry that can do 56mph on a motorway gets f****d off if they get stuck doing 50mph, or behind some old divvy dragging a caravan so why is it wrong for a car driver to get annoyed and wanting to get round a lorry they have trailed for miles doing 2/3 of the speed limit? If a HGV driver can get annoyed at cyclists and horses then isn't it hypocritical to not appreciate a lot of car drivers feel the same about HGV's? My half-brother is a HGV driver since he got injured in the forces so I am not having a go at drivers, I get more annoyed at cyclists and horses around here and don't see many lorries at all any more. But I am off to Norfolk tomorrow and I know somewhere along the way, guaranteed, a HGV driver will pull out in front of me just before I am side-on to it when there will be nothing behind me and he could have waited two seconds. They just click the indicator on and pull out, at least most other drivers wait for a gap. I'm guessing your in a car when you want tom pass...? Infact you sound to me like youve never driven anything bigger.....or anything with a heavy trailer. Its all about momentum. An HGV builds up speed and it needs to pull out, once it loses that speed it takes a while to build back up. I'm sure the lorries are getting better everyyear and more torque but if your in a car its nothing to slow down, drop a gear and your away again. Different story in an HGV or a fully loaded trailer..... Only thing that pisses me off is when you see 2 lorries side by side for a long period off time.....to me thats bad driving on the guy overtaking cause he hasnt judged it correctly and the guy in the inside wont let of the gas cause he knows it will f**k him up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Westy76 546 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 The 525 was without doubt the best lorry I've ever owned it used to be ERF's own show truck and only 150 were made in its spec full leather all singing and dancing,my pal still owns her but she made europe flat but sadly all my old pics have gone as women are vindictive gits only pic I've got of one of my trucks is my old Volvo at a show. Don't forget about the fodens chid good motors them but if the brothers didn't have a row we wouldn't have the Eric Russell Foden Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Westy76 546 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I've got to agree with some of the above posts; in general, HGV drivers do a great job, and providing you treat them with respect on the roads they reciprocate. The problem is car drivers. They treat anyone who is driving anything slower than them as a nuisance. Yesterday, I was towing the trailer back from Exmoor, up the M5 and than A303. I was rolling along nicely; sticking to just above the speed limit of 60mph on the dual carriageways and 50mph on the single carriageways. The idiots that overtook me ignoring double white lines and cutting in front of me forcing me to brake were at each roundabout just in front of me. It always amazes me that so many people are willing to take a chance and risk their lives just to travel an extra mile or two an hour. I've a feeling CB was excluded from the law regarding mobiles; but I'm happy to be proved wrong. I've got one in the van as the mobile signal is shite in some of the areas I work in and the farmers all still use it around here. It's got me out of trouble a few times, and breaks up the boredom of a journey when there's shite on the wireless. Ever wondered why you're sat in a two mile queue on the motorway? Ask the truckers flying past on the opposite carriageway and they usually know the answer........ The biggest issue we have is that others on the roads just don't know are speed limits and that all the big firms wagons are tracked and flag you up on screen if your speeding,single carriageway max is 40mph,dual carriageway is 50mph and motorway is 56mph and that is max limit as all the trucks are limited to 56 but some are limited as low as 50 for lower insurance rates.I think you can still be done for using the mike but coppers discretion and the cb is great for traffic issues. Still annoying though isn't it? I bet a lorry that can do 56mph on a motorway gets f****d off if they get stuck doing 50mph, or behind some old divvy dragging a caravan so why is it wrong for a car driver to get annoyed and wanting to get round a lorry they have trailed for miles doing 2/3 of the speed limit? If a HGV driver can get annoyed at cyclists and horses then isn't it hypocritical to not appreciate a lot of car drivers feel the same about HGV's? My half-brother is a HGV driver since he got injured in the forces so I am not having a go at drivers, I get more annoyed at cyclists and horses around here and don't see many lorries at all any more. But I am off to Norfolk tomorrow and I know somewhere along the way, guaranteed, a HGV driver will pull out in front of me just before I am side-on to it when there will be nothing behind me and he could have waited two seconds. They just click the indicator on and pull out, at least most other drivers wait for a gap. I'm guessing your in a car when you want tom pass...? Infact you sound to me like youve never driven anything bigger.....or anything with a heavy trailer. Its all about momentum. An HGV builds up speed and it needs to pull out, once it loses that speed it takes a while to build back up. I'm sure the lorries are getting better everyyear and more torque but if your in a car its nothing to slow down, drop a gear and your away again. Different story in an HGV or a fully loaded trailer..... Only thing that pisses me off is when you see 2 lorries side by side for a long period off time.....to me thats bad driving on the guy overtaking cause he hasnt judged it correctly and the guy in the inside wont let of the gas cause he knows it will f**k him up. That's called elephant racing and the guys that do it are nothing more than steering wheel attendants and that's why the normal road user gets the hump and we now have roads with no hgv overtaking bans during the day.Any decent driver seeing a wagon getting up there side will back off and let em pass and just knock the cruise down 1 mph......no issue? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,681 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I don't envy owner drivers at all, that is one hard game......the rates have been screwed down to the bone and the expenses have just got bigger and bigger. Then they have those planks from VOSA always looking to pull them for something, soul destroying game I reckon I know they have to put some hours in just to earn a living......you her about dangerous truck drivers but its the government makes them dangerous by not letting them earn a living. Rules, regulations and diesel take up most of their money I would imagine 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,495 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 The 525 was without doubt the best lorry I've ever owned it used to be ERF's own show truck and only 150 were made in its spec full leather all singing and dancing,my pal still owns her but she made europe flat but sadly all my old pics have gone as women are vindictive gits only pic I've got of one of my trucks is my old Volvo at a show. Don't forget about the fodens chid good motors them but if the brothers didn't have a row we wouldn't have the Eric Russell Foden my dad driven a fh12 very simalar coloured to that one for about 6 month moving bricks , fodens were ok if you didnt get the big sleeper cab one otherwise you were like a nodding dog everytime the brakes were pressed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Westy76 546 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) I don't envy owner drivers at all, that is one hard game......the rates have been screwed down to the bone and the expenses have just got bigger and bigger. Then they have those planks from VOSA always looking to pull them for something, soul destroying game I reckon I know they have to put some hours in just to earn a living......you her about dangerous truck drivers but its the government makes them dangerous by not letting them earn a living. Rules, regulations and diesel take up most of their money I would imagine Good post,stobarts killed the owner driver and believe or not ex drivers started VOSA.Most owner drivers have to run bent to make a living its a hard game. My diesel bill alone was over £1k a week at 0.80p a litre on bunker price!!! Chid I drove a old Foden with a 500 cat lump in it in 1st fully freighted it damn near wheelied with the amount of torque Edited June 27, 2013 by Westy76 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
koda 83 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 its drivers competing against other drivers ie contract prices that have knackered the job every one cutting each other down to get the job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbithunter 456 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Much money in class 2 night work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 At the start certain things did get to me but it made me think hard what you could lose or kill so just acted like a pro driver we supposed to be was in a car one day nearly got killed by a hgv i reported him and made him stop he was stressed up like a coil. His excuse was, im a agency driver i dont give a shit.. Wrong wrong wrong. We dont need that on our roads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bwfc 164 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 The licence to use a 40uk channel CB was abolished some years ago,so there is no licence needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mooching Celt 659 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 I lasted 10 years behind the wheel before i had enough. Fed up with sharing the roads with idiots who had no concern over anyone else's safety and welfare, always wanting to be in front of the vehicle they're following. The thought that their stupid thoughtless actions could result in something that would be on my conscience for the rest of my days, a situation that couldn't be avoided by my actions and that could ruin a family's life, maybe even my own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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