Known Jack Russells, "one Eyed Jack " And "the General"

[Corkman 944]

Whites Dogs would do nicely.

 

Tip didn't land in Ireland until 1992 and was one dog in the line of many over the years.

 

"The General" wouldn't have had any so called Sealyham in him.

 

When breeding the breeder would like to think they are adding something to the line and hope you get it right.

Edited July 12, 2016 by Corkman

[bull mcabe 595]

If I'm correct and there's probably a good chance I'm not. Did I hear tip was russle x lakeland?

[bull mcabe 595]

If I'm correct and there's a good chance I'm not. Did I hear that tip was a russle x lakeland?

[andy26 618]

If I'm correct and there's a good chance I'm not. Did I hear that tip was a russle x lakeland?

his sire was a lakie, an I have alway been led to believe there wasn't any sealy in him but AV just came off the phone to someone that worked him for years an Infact there is abit in him, atb

[jiggy 3,209]

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

[andy26 618]

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

it is unreal the places they can get they really have got some drive, Infact I was out with a lad who a member of this site at the backend of the season, he keeps blacks, an when we broke through my dig was working away on his side, he could not believe how he pushed through such I tight spot to the game it's great to see atb

[jiggy 3,209]

 

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

it is unreal the places they can get they really have got some drive, Infact I was out with a lad who a member of this site at the backend of the season, he keeps blacks, an when we broke through my dig was working away on his side, he could not believe how he pushed through such I tight spot to the game it's great to see atb

cork boys aint stupid even if there not as intelligent as people from the midlands ha ha those boys wouldnt keep the dogs if they couldnt do the job seeing is believing a 25 pound dog can get to a 25 pound animal if he wants it bad enough.

[andy26 618]

 

 

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

it is unreal the places they can get they really have got some drive, Infact I was out with a lad who a member of this site at the backend of the season, he keeps blacks, an when we broke through my dig was working away on his side, he could not believe how he pushed through such I tight spot to the game it's great to see atb

cork boys aint stupid even if there not as intelligent as people from the midlands ha ha those boys wouldnt keep the dogs if they couldnt do the job seeing is believing a 25 pound dog can get to a 25 pound animal if he wants it bad enough.

couldnt agree more with your last statement as for the first I think al let the cork lads debate that one ha atb

[jiggy 3,209]

 

 

 

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

it is unreal the places they can get they really have got some drive, Infact I was out with a lad who a member of this site at the backend of the season, he keeps blacks, an when we broke through my dig was working away on his side, he could not believe how he pushed through such I tight spot to the game it's great to see atb

cork boys aint stupid even if there not as intelligent as people from the midlands ha ha those boys wouldnt keep the dogs if they couldnt do the job seeing is believing a 25 pound dog can get to a 25 pound animal if he wants it bad enough.

couldnt agree more with your last statement as for the first I think al let the cork lads debate that one ha atb

dont worry ill hear it back in person just having a sneaky dig to start a bit of banter there is some good lads down that way.

[andy26 618]

 

 

 

 

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

it is unreal the places they can get they really have got some drive, Infact I was out with a lad who a member of this site at the backend of the season, he keeps blacks, an when we broke through my dig was working away on his side, he could not believe how he pushed through such I tight spot to the game it's great to see atb

cork boys aint stupid even if there not as intelligent as people from the midlands ha ha those boys wouldnt keep the dogs if they couldnt do the job seeing is believing a 25 pound dog can get to a 25 pound animal if he wants it bad enough.

couldnt agree more with your last statement as for the first I think al let the cork lads debate that one ha atb

dont worry ill hear it back in person just having a sneaky dig to start a bit of banter there is some good lads down that way.

haha so AV been told al find out for myself when I meet some of them this weekend at the showAtb

[onion jonny 527]

like andy says they can certainly put a shift in.

[eastcoast 4,163]

Out of all the recurring topics on THL I find the stuff about the white dogs worked and bred by the men of Cork the most interesting. I realise that I'm treading uninvited on sacred ground here but I think it is fair to call them a Sealyham type. P3d states that these working terriers are not related to the K.C. Sealyhams or the Parson Russell's dogs. A good thing of course. Idiots ruined the good work that Edwards achieved within a decade or so of K.C. recognition. The only accurate record of Russell's blood only lives on in the K.C. Fox terrier

 

The Russell type and the Sealyham type existed before either of the aforementioned men became famous. Russell just bred and worked the working terrier that suited him. As did all the other working terrier men at the time but Russell became " legend " for whatever reason. Edwards did the same but favoured a different type . His dogs were just the working terriers of the time with bull blood added, it would seem, and then refined into what was his ideal through testing at work and good stockmanship. Resulting in a substantial terrier but still of a size to go to ground. Different to the Russell/Fox terrier of the day. A Sealyham type. Just history.

 

If Edwards was here now and shown a £1000 pure bred K.C. Sealyham ( with added Clumber Spaniel blood ) or a not for sale bred " for the type of burrow that they work the quarry in " and then asked, " which one would you take back to the Sealyham estate ? " I think he would recognise the not for sale type but be confused as to what type of dog the " pure " bred was.

[p3d 879]

Out of all the recurring topics on THL I find the stuff about the white dogs worked and bred by the men of Cork the most interesting. I realise that I'm treading uninvited on sacred ground here but I think it is fair to call them a Sealyham type. P3d states that these working terriers are not related to the K.C. Sealyhams or the Parson Russell's dogs. A good thing of course. Idiots ruined the good work that Edwards achieved within a decade or so of K.C. recognition. The only accurate record of Russell's blood only lives on in the K.C. Fox terrier

 

The Russell type and the Sealyham type existed before either of the aforementioned men became famous. Russell just bred and worked the working terrier that suited him. As did all the other working terrier men at the time but Russell became " legend " for whatever reason. Edwards did the same but favoured a different type . His dogs were just the working terriers of the time with bull blood added, it would seem, and then refined into what was his ideal through testing at work and good stockmanship. Resulting in a substantial terrier but still of a size to go to ground. Different to the Russell/Fox terrier of the day. A Sealyham type. Just history.

 

If Edwards was here now and shown a £1000 pure bred K.C. Sealyham ( with added Clumber Spaniel blood ) or a not for sale bred " for the type of burrow that they work the quarry in " and then asked, " which one would you take back to the Sealyham estate ? " I think he would recognise the not for sale type but be confused as to what type of dog the " pure " bred was.

 

Eastcoast,

 

Spot on, they are a type of working dog, ugly as hell normally but we won't hold that against them.

[neil cooney 10,416]

What i like about these type of dogs is there complete power they might seem over large but when i see patterdales work its a case of how long i can get the sh1t kicked out of me and stay the course but with these dogs they push and boss the game and always seem to be in control of things there isnt many types that can bully game. If they have the ability to find and push in tight you have a good dog because the physical aspect is allready there.

Sounds to me like you've been looking at some shite black terriers.

[pablo esc 1,598]

Every one to the own but that's the way these people talk comment on ; I don't like patterdales.some haven't seen them.some just say what the next man says. Some want to get a mating. And some want to ruin one or give bad name being biased.as told and know a lot of the white dogs only make culls. And having seen both work and how things end out the no more special or better