Poaching Salmon

[baw 4,360]

if caught out of the sea, (if) they had hid the nets and just drove back with fish+ rods in truck, surley its not against the law to catch with rod+ line from the sea.??? or am i wrong, like if you travel with game (deer+ hare) in truck day+ night , as long as you got no guns+lamp or dogs in the truck, only game which you bought from a bloke at a pub car park lol you not breaking the law .?

Can't catch migrating fish without a permit or license even at sea. Can't mind how far out the boundary goes, think its 2 mile or maybe 10 lol.

[Lab 10,979]

Know a couple of lads who got caught poaching last year....car taken and one had a gun license which was taken off him along with guns.....He got license back, car back but not sure on fine. Very lucky!

[baw 4,360]

if caught out of the sea, (if) they had hid the nets and just drove back with fish+ rods in truck, surley its not against the law to catch with rod+ line from the sea.??? or am i wrong, like if you travel with game (deer+ hare) in truck day+ night , as long as you got no guns+lamp or dogs in the truck, only game which you bought from a bloke at a pub car park lol you not breaking the law .?

I was fishing an estuary the other week and the balliff showed up. Had the craic with him and said what if I catch a salmon, what will happen. He said as long as I could walk home with it nowt, if I used the car, I'd be handing him the keys. Funnily enough I fish this bit regular and never see him. 5 days after seeing him, I found a salmon net tied to a jetty, half brick other side. He must have known they were doing it and was watching. I've still got the net

[kevin em 342]

its a €150 fine the gear confiscated including vehicle in ireland. i think anyway

I think the fine is a lot more than that a lad off here got caught a lot of year ago and got fined big money

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I got caught back in the early 90's, I had a few slaps off 2 bailiffs which I didn't mind but the wankers then phoned the police and I had a £360 fine when I went to court. The day I was in court this fella in his 60's had 6 months, though it was his third time being caught gaffing.

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

Had a few fines for the fish when I was a laddie...turned ma mother grey.... ...all good fun...

 

Once fined £350 and that was away back in 1985 when I was 20....lot of money then....

 

 

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

A guy up my way last week got caught poaching salmon from the sea ,he got stopped with the nets and salmon in his truck . Just wonderin what's the sentence for thAt he's a keen shouter and has all his license for them .Cheers

yeh hear they fine you any where from £500 to £1000 normaly the full grand and they will try and take the vehicle, a freind got one for haveing nets out a day late and he got pulled takeing them off the beach with 2 mackrel in them and got £1200 fine

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

and the freind in question is on last warning after 8 convictions for it he will do time.....but with salmon at £10 a lb for "black" fish and seatrout at around £15 a lb and the chance of catching 20-30 fish in a good tide in the right place its worth thinkning about,

when i lived up scotland i helped the bailifs on the forth estury a bit and feck me its insane up they you get lads drifting down past fallin in full daylight with baseball bats in the boats! i went duck shooting their one night in sept and as i shut the boot a bit too loud about 10 outboard engins started up on the water and took off..... in court one day get a fine and back out that night to pay the fine off

 

. i was giveing evidence on a poaching case last year and 3 other lads where in court for salmon poaching 2 got grand fines and the other got 3 month he said to the judge "aye ken ile da that standing on ma fecking heeed ya fud" the judge said well have another month to put you the right way up!!

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

and the freind in question is on last warning after 8 convictions for it he will do time.....but with salmon at £10 a lb for "black" fish and seatrout at around £15 a lb and the chance of catching 20-30 fish in a good tide in the right place its worth thinkning about,

when i lived up scotland i helped the bailifs on the forth estury a bit and feck me its insane up they you get lads drifting down past fallin in full daylight with baseball bats in the boats! i went duck shooting their one night in sept and as i shut the boot a bit too loud about 10 outboard engins started up on the water and took off..... in court one day get a fine and back out that night to pay the fine off

 

. i was giveing evidence on a poaching case last year and 3 other lads where in court for salmon poaching 2 got grand fines and the other got 3 month he said to the judge "aye ken ile da that standing on ma fecking heeed ya fud" the judge said well have another month to put you the right way up!!

 

 

but if you use your loaf and think about it its easy to get away with it the trouble is most egits just bang a net out and wander down to pick it up, if you know for instance that the fisheries only patrole weekdays and only morning tides its quite simple to dodge em not... that you should

Edited July 4, 2013 by perthshire keeper

[netrigger 568]

Up here Lads were getting a £1000 fine at a time!! way back in the 80's !!

And time !! the Judges at the Court were Anglers !!

By fek that's sum Dough for Fish P.K. ,, You would be lucky to get £3quidd a Punn up here for Salmon and £2quidd for Troot!! the Fish Farms killed the poaching many years ago up this end...

If there was money like that these Days up here I wouldn't be sitting here running My Monthly Bath before I go and knock Me pan in for 8 f@@kin hours ..

 

I still have a wander out on the River/Shore these days but not for the ££'s !! But just to keep Me sane ..

Regards..

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

and the freind in question is on last warning after 8 convictions for it he will do time.....but with salmon at £10 a lb for "black" fish and seatrout at around £15 a lb and the chance of catching 20-30 fish in a good tide in the right place its worth thinkning about,

when i lived up scotland i helped the bailifs on the forth estury a bit and feck me its insane up they you get lads drifting down past fallin in full daylight with baseball bats in the boats! i went duck shooting their one night in sept and as i shut the boot a bit too loud about 10 outboard engins started up on the water and took off..... in court one day get a fine and back out that night to pay the fine off

 

. i was giveing evidence on a poaching case last year and 3 other lads where in court for salmon poaching 2 got grand fines and the other got 3 month he said to the judge "aye ken ile da that standing on ma fecking heeed ya fud" the judge said well have another month to put you the right way up!!

 

Well done...bet you were happy with yersel..........................

[DIDO.1 22,844]

Up here Lads were getting a £1000 fine at a time!! way back in the 80's !!

And time !! the Judges at the Court were Anglers !!

By fek that's sum Dough for Fish P.K. ,, You would be lucky to get £3quidd a Punn up here for Salmon and £2quidd for Troot!! the Fish Farms killed the poaching many years ago up this end...

If there was money like that these Days up here I wouldn't be sitting here running My Monthly Bath before I go and knock Me pan in for 8 f@@kin hours ..

 

I still have a wander out on the River/Shore these days but not for the ££'s !! But just to keep Me sane ..

Regards..

 

[BANNED TEXT] the feck is a punn and a troot?

[bobcullen79 1,495]

 

Up here Lads were getting a £1000 fine at a time!! way back in the 80's !!

And time !! the Judges at the Court were Anglers !!

By fek that's sum Dough for Fish P.K. ,, You would be lucky to get £3quidd a Punn up here for Salmon and £2quidd for Troot!! the Fish Farms killed the poaching many years ago up this end...

If there was money like that these Days up here I wouldn't be sitting here running My Monthly Bath before I go and knock Me pan in for 8 f@@kin hours ..

 

I still have a wander out on the River/Shore these days but not for the ££'s !! But just to keep Me sane ..

Regards..

 

[bANNED TEXT] the feck is a punn and a troot?

 

£3 a pound and trout..

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

 

and the freind in question is on last warning after 8 convictions for it he will do time.....but with salmon at £10 a lb for "black" fish and seatrout at around £15 a lb and the chance of catching 20-30 fish in a good tide in the right place its worth thinkning about,

when i lived up scotland i helped the bailifs on the forth estury a bit and feck me its insane up they you get lads drifting down past fallin in full daylight with baseball bats in the boats! i went duck shooting their one night in sept and as i shut the boot a bit too loud about 10 outboard engins started up on the water and took off..... in court one day get a fine and back out that night to pay the fine off

 

. i was giveing evidence on a poaching case last year and 3 other lads where in court for salmon poaching 2 got grand fines and the other got 3 month he said to the judge "aye ken ile da that standing on ma fecking heeed ya fud" the judge said well have another month to put you the right way up!!

 

Well done...bet you were happy with yersel..........................

 

i must not other lads were not the ones i was giveing evedence against.

[AirgunGuy 362]

Bailiffs are not only out during normal working hours. They are out at all times and use night vision equipment amongst other things. I've a few mates that are ghillies and I know 1 or 2 bailiffs. If they see you or know you're there they'll either have you lifted by the cops or make a phone call and within a short period of time several bodies will appear and you can guarantee you're gettin done in...and rightly so!!!

Loads of times I've been on the river and the ghillie has appeared and told me where I've been and what I've been doing. They watch from everywhere as do the bailiffs. I've known guys to banned from a beat for doing things they shouldn't be doing. For instance...a very well known salmon angler and angling writer got banned from a beat I fish on the Dee for killing 2 salmon he'd caught and stuck in the back of his car. The beat is c&r and a bailiff was watching him from the hillside above. Short time later he was told to come out of the water, get to fcuk and never come back. He also got banned from several other beats on the river.

I was on the Dee a couple of weeks ago with a few mates fishing a beat. 1 of the guys was fishing a pool at around 11.30 as it was gettin dark. There was no one for miles and all of a sudden 2 cars appeared. 1 was the ghillie along with another ghillie and the other car was 2 bailiffs. Apparently the bailiffs spotted 3 guys in the gloaming with what looked like rods over their shoulders. Turned out it was the estates game keeper with 2 other guys with rifles out looking for a roe buck that was in the area. The bailiffs spotted them from a view point they use and had 4 guys there in minutes.

I know for a fact there's a lot of poaching goes on and more people get away with it than get caught but don't under estimate the bailiffs...they know how the poachers operate and are well geared up for it.

 

I know 1 former Tweed bailiff found a home made bomb in his garden shed. The bomb squad were called and it was live. That's how serious salmon poaching is to some people!!! There seems to be a constant war between bailiffs and poachers.

Edited July 5, 2013 by AirgunGuy