gnasher16 30,121 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 are you training for any particular reason Mainly just to get in better shape tbh mate Join a gym then mate ........you,ll have access to good equipment and if its a good gym you,ll have access to people with good knowledge.............................if you wanted advice on your car engine you,d ask in a garage wouldnt you ..............and your body is a lot more important than a poxy car engine 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DOG 1,355 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 are you training for any particular reason Mainly just to get in better shape tbh mate Join a gym then mate ........you,ll have access to good equipment and if its a good gym you,ll have access to people with good knowledge.............................if you wanted advice on your car engine you,d ask in a garage wouldnt you ..............and your body is a lot more important than a poxy car engine Yeah true that mate I was going to join a gym but always too busy to travel to gym plus i don't drive so would need a lift miles and miles away lol with me living on a farm and always out grafting , or walking dogs , and sorting my other animals , college so thought I'd try this first I've loads of weights and running machines to use but ill see how this goes if not ill make time for a gym thank you atb JD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 are you training for any particular reason Mainly just to get in better shape tbh mate Join a gym then mate ........you,ll have access to good equipment and if its a good gym you,ll have access to people with good knowledge.............................if you wanted advice on your car engine you,d ask in a garage wouldnt you ..............and your body is a lot more important than a poxy car engine Yeah true that mate I was going to join a gym but always too busy to travel to gym plus i don't drive so would need a lift miles and miles away lol with me living on a farm and always out grafting , or walking dogs , and sorting my other animals , college so thought I'd try this first I've loads of weights and running machines to use but ill see how this goes if not ill make time for a gym thank you atb JD Yep fair do,s .....................I always envied folk who could train out in the peace and tranquility of the open air without breathing in fumes and avoiding getting mowed down by skip lorries ............make the most of it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flinn 47 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Right lads I'm on an insane training plan 6 days a week and its super insane lol im in good shape now but want to improve this plan kills you doing it for 60 days then after That I'm going to focus on bulking up but this is to slim down and get leaner and tone up slightly it works but what I'd like to ask Is what FOODS best to eat when in training like this what it is is long periods of hard intense workout and short 10 second water breaks its great it kills you but worth it and it works , any help on what foods to eat that will be suitable much appreciated atb jd If your wanting to cut then i would recommend a 500 calorie deficit daily any thing less and you will feel like shit, 1 gram protein/per lb of bodyweight, slow digesting carbs (sweet potatoes, yams, and so on, and healthy fats such as avocado, nuts and omega 3's. I would also recommend rice cakes, great with peanut butter and low fat cheese spreads for snacks in between meals. your better trying to work out your BMR/TDEE and macro's first. http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/ good luck with your program. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DOG 1,355 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 are you training for any particular reason Mainly just to get in better shape tbh mate Join a gym then mate ........you,ll have access to good equipment and if its a good gym you,ll have access to people with good knowledge.............................if you wanted advice on your car engine you,d ask in a garage wouldnt you ..............and your body is a lot more important than a poxy car engine Yeah true that mate I was going to join a gym but always too busy to travel to gym plus i don't drive so would need a lift miles and miles away lol with me living on a farm and always out grafting , or walking dogs , and sorting my other animals , college so thought I'd try this first I've loads of weights and running machines to use but ill see how this goes if not ill make time for a gym thank you atb JD Yep fair do,s .....................I always envied folk who could train out in the peace and tranquility of the open air without breathing in fumes and avoiding getting mowed down by skip lorries ............make the most of it Haha cheers mate yeah it's good to train up here just fields lol can train in the barn on punch bag and that quite peaceful I'd love to go to a gym but just ain't the time yet but hopefully I could soon haha when im out jogging only worry I have is farmers see me running with a lurcher and think I'm running away hahahaha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DOG 1,355 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Right lads I'm on an insane training plan 6 days a week and its super insane lol im in good shape now but want to improve this plan kills you doing it for 60 days then after That I'm going to focus on bulking up but this is to slim down and get leaner and tone up slightly it works but what I'd like to ask Is what FOODS best to eat when in training like this what it is is long periods of hard intense workout and short 10 second water breaks its great it kills you but worth it and it works , any help on what foods to eat that will be suitable much appreciated atb jd If your wanting to cut then i would recommend a 500 calorie deficit daily any thing less and you will feel like shit, 1 gram protein/per lb of bodyweight, slow digesting carbs (sweet potatoes, yams, and so on, and healthy fats such as avocado, nuts and omega 3's. I would also recommend rice cakes, great with peanut butter and low fat cheese spreads for snacks in between meals. your better trying to work out your BMR/TDEE and macro's first. http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/ good luck with your program. thank you very much mate thats very helpful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Right lads I'm on an insane training plan 6 days a week and its super insane lol im in good shape now but want to improve this plan kills you doing it for 60 days then after That I'm going to focus on bulking up but this is to slim down and get leaner and tone up slightly it works but what I'd like to ask Is what FOODS best to eat when in training like this what it is is long periods of hard intense workout and short 10 second water breaks its great it kills you but worth it and it works , any help on what foods to eat that will be suitable much appreciated atb jd If your wanting to cut then i would recommend a 500 calorie deficit daily any thing less and you will feel like shit, 1 gram protein/per lb of bodyweight, slow digesting carbs (sweet potatoes, yams, and so on, and healthy fats such as avocado, nuts and omega 3's. I would also recommend rice cakes, great with peanut butter and low fat cheese spreads for snacks in between meals. your better trying to work out your BMR/TDEE and macro's first. http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/ good luck with your program. thank you very much mate thats very helpful Keep it simple mate...good clean diet...meat and complex carbs...skip the shit...and most importantly make sure you are eating enough...the suggestion of joining a gym is a sound one...remember though this fitness industry is crammed full of charlatans and halfwits...all qualified... ...some of the least capable and ill informed fitness pros I have ever come across are attached to gyms...mind how you go...good luck...and don't forget to treat yourself once in a while...that big f**k off pizza or that tub of ice cream or that choke a horse indian meal for 4 ain't the end of the world... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DOG 1,355 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) Right lads I'm on an insane training plan 6 days a week and its super insane lol im in good shape now but want to improve this plan kills you doing it for 60 days then after That I'm going to focus on bulking up but this is to slim down and get leaner and tone up slightly it works but what I'd like to ask Is what FOODS best to eat when in training like this what it is is long periods of hard intense workout and short 10 second water breaks its great it kills you but worth it and it works , any help on what foods to eat that will be suitable much appreciated atb jd If your wanting to cut then i would recommend a 500 calorie deficit daily any thing less and you will feel like shit, 1 gram protein/per lb of bodyweight, slow digesting carbs (sweet potatoes, yams, and so on, and healthy fats such as avocado, nuts and omega 3's. I would also recommend rice cakes, great with peanut butter and low fat cheese spreads for snacks in between meals. your better trying to work out your BMR/TDEE and macro's first. http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/ good luck with your program. thank you very much mate thats very helpful Keep it simple mate...good clean diet...meat and complex carbs...skip the shit...and most importantly make sure you are eating enough...the suggestion of joining a gym is a sound one...remember though this fitness industry is crammed full of charlatans and halfwits...all qualified... ...some of the least capable and ill informed fitness pros I have ever come across are attached to gyms...mind how you go...good luck...and don't forget to treat yourself once in a while...that big f**k off pizza or that tub of ice cream or that choke a horse indian meal for 4 ain't the end of the world... Thank you mate very good advice ill defo try get to the gym and I know the sorts your on about and I will defo give myself a wee treat now and then I love getting up training then out with the dogs come home and sort the other animals out and graft keeps me busy and motivated Thanks again bud atb jd Edited June 22, 2013 by J.DOG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Why trim down bulk up mate, seems like the hard way. Why don't you bulk up, get a shape to you then cut it back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Right lads I'm on an insane training plan 6 days a week and its super insane lol im in good shape now but want to improve this plan kills you doing it for 60 days then after That I'm going to focus on bulking up but this is to slim down and get leaner and tone up slightly it works but what I'd like to ask Is what FOODS best to eat when in training like this what it is is long periods of hard intense workout and short 10 second water breaks its great it kills you but worth it and it works , any help on what foods to eat that will be suitable much appreciated atb jd If your wanting to cut then i would recommend a 500 calorie deficit daily any thing less and you will feel like shit, 1 gram protein/per lb of bodyweight, slow digesting carbs (sweet potatoes, yams, and so on, and healthy fats such as avocado, nuts and omega 3's. I would also recommend rice cakes, great with peanut butter and low fat cheese spreads for snacks in between meals. your better trying to work out your BMR/TDEE and macro's first. http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/ good luck with your program. thank you very much mate thats very helpful Keep it simple mate...good clean diet...meat and complex carbs...skip the shit...and most importantly make sure you are eating enough...the suggestion of joining a gym is a sound one...remember though this fitness industry is crammed full of charlatans and halfwits...all qualified... ...some of the least capable and ill informed fitness pros I have ever come across are attached to gyms...mind how you go...good luck...and don't forget to treat yourself once in a while...that big f**k off pizza or that tub of ice cream or that choke a horse indian meal for 4 ain't the end of the world... Thank you mate very good advice ill defo try get to the gym and I know the sorts your on about and I will defo give myself a wee treat now and then I love getting up training then out with the dogs come home and sort the other animals out and graft keeps me busy and motivated Thanks again bud atb jd Take advantage of your environment...you'll have hills, trees, valleys. fences, logs, stones, old tractor tyres, sledgehammers, oil drums, ropes, bags of feed and a hundred other things and if you use a bit of imagination and you can self-motivate (not something everyone can do)...who needs a gym... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 If I were you I would do it the other way round,loads of good food ,heavy weights,less reps/sets and bulk up,then when you have achieved the growth you want,start cutting the calories,more aerobic exercise,less weight,more reps and before you know it .......RIPPED seems counter productive to lose weight,to then try and build muscle and keep your weight down 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulsmithy83 567 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Sounds like your doing Insanity.. High protein, & Veg and for carbs try and substitute with butternut squash or sweet potatoes try and eat every 3 hours stay off the white carbs ie potato, white rice, white bread in fact just stay off bread all together stay off sugar or any fizzy drinks, just drink plenty of water one day a week it is a good idea to have a cheat day where you can eat what you fancy As long as your eating the right types of foods you will see good gains and a change in physique Good luck, ive done the full insanity course and it was a killer That's the one mate its brilliant Right cheers mate very helpful ill stay on tack once I commit to submit it gets done haha it's brutal lol How did you do mate did you get good results ?? Thanks again atb JD For stayin lean and trim up give intermit fastin a go the hole eat every 3 hrs is scientificly proven to be pish. This mean you only eat for 8 hrs a day and 16 hrs fasted. All pro and any serious athlete looking to cut will do so. The myth of anabolic window was made by protein shake companys . Need to find your maintance calorie load (this your cals were you dont gain wate and you dont drop it. everyone is different then reduce maintanancw by 500cals this is a gud cut calorie load for your body. Want to drop fat not muscle n fat so only drop by 500 n get steady wate loss still take in fats but fats from like fish-nuts and so on. These fats actally help you burn your fat stores and aid joints .Cut down the carbs these easly turn to fat if not used and will make you store more water wate , increase protein, drink way more water as then if takin in to much protein the body will flush it via your piss rather then turn to fat. Also the body will reduce water level as its getting a constant supply. As said diet shud be protein- chicken/fish/turkey/egg whites carbs shud be stuff like- vegetables sweet potato and so on, maybe small bits of brown rice Fats shud be from- nuts/fish Your macros of cals to cut should be around 50% protein 30% carbs 20% helfy fats With about 8 litres of water a day Need anymore help drop me pm dont no it all but no me fare share Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mexlad 189 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Sounds like your doing Insanity.. High protein, & Veg and for carbs try and substitute with butternut squash or sweet potatoes try and eat every 3 hours stay off the white carbs ie potato, white rice, white bread in fact just stay off bread all together stay off sugar or any fizzy drinks, just drink plenty of water one day a week it is a good idea to have a cheat day where you can eat what you fancy As long as your eating the right types of foods you will see good gains and a change in physique Good luck, ive done the full insanity course and it was a killer That's the one mate its brilliant Right cheers mate very helpful ill stay on tack once I commit to submit it gets done haha it's brutal lol HowZ did you do mate did you get good results ?? Thanks again atb JD For stayin lean and trim up give intermit fastin a go the hole eat every 3 hrs is scientificly proven to be pish. This mean you only eat for 8 hrs a day and 16 hrs fasted. All pro and any serious athlete looking to cut will do so. The myth of anabolic window was made by protein shake companys . Need to find your maintance calorie load (this your cals were you dont gain wate and you dont drop it. everyone is different then reduce maintanancw by 500cals this is a gud cut calorie load for your body. Want to drop fat not muscle n fat so only drop by 500 n get steady wate loss still take in fats but fats from like fish-nuts and so on. These fats actally help you burn your fat stores and aid joints .Cut down the carbs these easly turn to fat if not used and will make you store more water wate , increase protein, drink way more water as then if takin in to much protein the body will flush it via your piss rather then turn to fat. Also the body will reduce water level as its getting a constant supply. As said diet shud be protein- chicken/fish/turkey/egg whites carbs shud be stuff like- vegetables sweet potato and so on, maybe small bits of brown rice Fats shud be from- nuts/fish Your macros of cals to cut should be around 50% protein 30% carbs 20% helfy fats With about 8 litres of water a day Need anymore help drop me pm dont no it all but no me fare share Have you tried the warrior diet mate ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Over the years ive seen lads delve deep into training regimes,dieting etc..........yet the most common thing to break is not the body its the mind !.......To get the best out of what your body is capable of requires far more mental strength than physical......i never get too involved in dishing out complicated training advice to beginners simply because it usually gets wasted......all id say to any beginner is get used to working your body reasonably hard on a regular basis and eating cleanly........The hard truth is 8 out of 10 people who start training will not train consistently for more than a 1 year period........hence my view is in the early stages " less is more "......then if your personality and desire means you stick at it,thats the time to look into the science side of fitness. Only my opinion like,best of luck to you. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Over the years ive seen lads delve deep into training regimes,dieting etc..........yet the most common thing to break is not the body its the mind !.......To get the best out of what your body is capable of requires far more mental strength than physical......i never get too involved in dishing out complicated training advice to beginners simply because it usually gets wasted......all id say to any beginner is get used to working your body reasonably hard on a regular basis and eating cleanly........The hard truth is 8 out of 10 people who start training will not train consistently for more than a 1 year period........hence my view is in the early stages " less is more "......then if your personality and desire means you stick at it,thats the time to look into the science side of fitness. Only my opinion like,best of luck to you. 100% agree on that one Gnasher...it's as easy or complicated as you want to make it... Move more/eat less...or more and eat clean...but keep it realistic and simple and enjoy it...and also don't forget you ain't changing the habits of a lifetime overnight... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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