A Bit Of Advice

[tsteve9999 456]

Why not buy 2 hawks at the same time?

Then you can train all four to be perfect at the same time and it will save you waiting around. :laugh:

Seriously, if you're a young lad as I think you are I apologise, but to say you are new to the game and then that you can train 1 pup to a good standard let alone 2 would be a surprise. I've put in a hell of a lot of hours into my dog (my first lurcher) and he's nowhere near a worldbeater.

If you take on 2 at once you are in for a shedful of heartache mate.

[blue staffy 145]

Stick to 1 pup at a time pal especialy if you want a bull x because they can be a handfull and will need all you attention to bring up to a high standard

[Neoleaver 55]

Mate, I thought this was a wind up too. People are treating it as a joke because youve just said your brand new to the lurcher game yet you're talking about taking on two pups at the same time (training one to a good standard takes a lot of time and patience) and even talking about breeding before youve ever even run a bunny. I appreciate you are probably a decent bloke as youve realised that breeding from young untried stock would be a mistake. Your thread is titled 'bit of advice' so respectfully this would be mine. Take on one pup (maybe a mix with collie and bull in it already if thats what you want to end up with anyhow) spend a lot of time with it, enter it sensibly when the dogs ready and take it from there. What folk will have a problem with is that some lads either take on too many pups getting into lurchers and find they cant cope with training/keeping both, or they find lurcher work isnt for them after all, in either case the dogs end up on the second hand lurcher merry-go-round or into rescue centress. Lurcher folk dont need the extra bad press mate, the antis are doing there best as it is to take away our right to hunt. Tbh Id have thought it might have been more constructive to spell all this out for you rather than take the piss, but then again these posts are wind ups half the time anyhow. All the best mate, trust me one pup is plenty to start out wi.

As fitchet said, if you genuinely need advice your welcome to pm me with any questions. Not saying I'm an expert but I have trained a few dogs and got a few season under me belt (and I'm still learning).

Edited June 22, 2013 by Neoleaver

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Mate, I thought this was a wind up too. People are treating it as a joke because youve just said your brand new to the lurcher game yet you're talking about taking on two pups at the same time (training one to a good standard takes a lot of time and patience) and even talking about breeding before youve ever even run a bunny. I appreciate you are probably a decent bloke as youve realised that breeding from young untried stock would be a mistake. Your thread is titled 'bit of advice' so respectfully this would be mine. Take on one pup (maybe a mix with collie and bull in it already if thats what you want to end up with anyhow) spend a lot of time with it, enter it sensibly when the dogs ready and take it from there. What folk will have a problem with is that some lads either take on too many pups getting into lurchers and find they cant cope with training/keeping both, or they find lurcher work isnt for them after all, in either case the dogs end up on the second hand lurcher merry-go-round or into rescue centress. Lurcher folk dont need the extra bad press mate, the antis are doing there best as it is to take away our right to hunt. Tbh Id have thought it might have been more constructive to spell all this out for you rather than take the piss, but then again these posts are wind ups half the time anyhow. All the best mate, trust me one pup is plenty to start out wi.

As fitchet said, if you genuinely need advice your welcome to pm me with any questions. Not saying I'm an expert but I have trained a few dogs and got a few season under me belt (and I'm still learning).

Great post. I would of written something similar if I thought he was genuine and not a wind up merchant. Didn't want to risk wasting my time and thumbs

[Bambi7 0]

cheers mate (y) i only thought of two because they sometimes they can encourage each on when working well compete so it will get the best out of them if you know what i mean. as for the breeding i would only breed when my dog is getting old and id need a pup when i retire him. i think il have to pick out of bull grey or a collie grey which 1 i think id like as my first dog.

[cammy12 176]

cheers mate (y) i only thought of two because they sometimes they can encourage each on when working well compete so it will get the best out of them if you know what i mean. as for the breeding i would only breed when my dog is getting old and id need a pup when i retire him. i think il have to pick out of bull grey or a collie grey which 1 i think id like as my first dog.

I think you need to slow down forget about breeding plans and just focus on doing a pup justice and if your pup makes the grade there are plenty good working studs out there, as said before get a bull/grey x collie/grey from already tested parents this will start you on the right foot

[Bambi7 0]

cheers mate ye id like a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie over a half cross bull grey or 3/4 grey 1/4 bull?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

cheers mate ye id like a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie over a half cross bull grey or 3/4 grey 1/4 bull?

Stop thinking fractions and percentages.

 

Find a litter from working parents with bull lurcher on one side and collie lurcher on the other.

 

Do your best by it and see how you get on.

[lamp it luke 29]

i rest my case!!

[buster red 66]

i know were theres a litter of bull,grey,collie, x sparrowhawk. be just perfect for ya.

[Neoleaver 55]

cheers mate (y) i only thought of two because they sometimes they can encourage each on when working well compete so it will get the best out of them if you know what i mean. as for the breeding i would only breed when my dog is getting old and id need a pup when i retire him. i think il have to pick out of bull grey or a collie grey which 1 i think id like as my first dog.

Can see why you might think that mate, but two pups together will tend to make training more difficult as they'll compete with each other, sounds like it might be useful but when your trying to get them retrieving and they're fightin over the dummy/bunny or your trying to do some basic obedience stuff wi one and the others dickin about distractin it etc etc. Can be a right pain in the arse. Far better to have one dog trained to a good standard with a few seasons behind it that can then help you school the next pup by example. One dog at a time mate, not sayin two's impossible, there is lads that manage it but they tend to be experienced lads who have a good grasp of whats required. Good luck wi yer pup pal.

[Bambi7 0]

thanks mate when i find the a decent pup il upload pictures of it

[jeemes 4,467]

get your collie x of handcock.good stuff

Now thats what I call a joke.