BEAU 0 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I have a couple questions in regards to a first cross pit male 20 inches tts over a track bitch grey 27/28 tts, just assume both dogs are average and are sound in temperament and body which they are, This is a rare cross to do in Australia and I’d like to get a few questions answered keeping in mind fox hunting is legal in this country, Id appreciate answers based on experience and not speculation no arguing just answer the questions please might save me wasting my time, Average height of a first cross? Are they fast enough for a fox one out? How are they with stock and animal proofing? Are they prone to dog or people aggression (i work with off lead non-aggressive parsons bush and den) ? Im basically after a point and shoot solo sight dog, doesn't have to be perfect just not after a problem dog, please dont suggest other breeds that you think would be more appropriate it wont assist with what im looking to understand Id basically need reasonable positive feed back on all the questions to consider doing it I don’t like breeding and id like to not have to breed twice for at least a few years Feel free to throw up first cross pics Thanks guys Quote Link to post
dymented 2,220 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Average height of a first cross? out of the two you put up 24" 26" Are they fast enough for a fox one out? yes they are How are they with stock and animal proofing? same as any other dog teach them young Are they prone to dog or people aggression (i work with off lead non-aggressive parsons bush and den) ? no there no aggressive to people or dogs they wont take shit from a dog also but tend not to start it hope this helps 7 Quote Link to post
Lampalurcher 47 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I'd second that Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 you need to keep the full litter till about 6 or 7 months.then your near sure what way thev thrown.like first cross collie lurchers you will get some thrown too thick. Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Average height of a first cross? out of the two you put up 24" 26" Are they fast enough for a fox one out? yes they are How are they with stock and animal proofing? same as any other dog teach them young Are they prone to dog or people aggression (i work with off lead non-aggressive parsons bush and den) ? no there no aggressive to people or dogs they wont take shit from a dog also but tend not to start it hope this helps What he just said, exactly. a very athletic, loyal sociable (if brought up properly), dog with a very good prey drive. Taught from an early age to respect and tolerate other dogs, same goes with stock, you really wont go far wrong with one imo. 1 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,483 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Average height of a first cross? out of the two you put up 24" 26" Are they fast enough for a fox one out? yes they are How are they with stock and animal proofing? same as any other dog teach them young Are they prone to dog or people aggression (i work with off lead non-aggressive parsons bush and den) ? no there no aggressive to people or dogs they wont take shit from a dog also but tend not to start it hope this helps That sounds about right. You cannot wish for a better dog. And if you give them a chance they also have a good brain. Quote Link to post
BEAU 0 Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 awesome guys you've been very helpful still a tough choice to make but I belive you've swung me slightly height is my only concern, wish I could keep every dog till they were 12 months haha Quote Link to post
dymented 2,220 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 when looking at the pups try to keep the lightly built frame ones that way they stand a better chance of throwing to the greyhound side ect you should get size then Quote Link to post
Whiskey 28 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 If you getting a bull x its not for rabbits lol so wouldn't be that botherd about size you get a fox in 40 50 yards its game over nods Quote Link to post
bobby blackheart 1,209 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 agree 100% with what the others have said-but i was told the best way is to use a pit dam and running dog sire-then your pups have more chance of throwing to the running dog-this way round has produced some real machines for the lads i know that keep them Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 agree 100% with what the others have said-but i was told the best way is to use a pit dam and running dog sire-then your pups have more chance of throwing to the running dog-this way round has produced some real machines for the lads i know that keep them was always told the other way, have the dam the running dog , and the sire the other breed, as even though i know pups will be 50% / 50% they reckon alot of the pups go to the dam side .? dont know if its true .?? 1 Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 agree 100% with what the others have said-but i was told the best way is to use a pit dam and running dog sire-then your pups have more chance of throwing to the running dog-this way round has produced some real machines for the lads i know that keep them Somebody done it that way local to me sire is saluki/greyhound put back to bull dam. To be honest they look to heavy to be of any use to me already ... Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Here is a genuine first cross, 26", out of a bull dog sire and a greyhound dam and plenty fast enough for foxes... Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Here is a genuine first cross, 26", out of a bull dog sire and a greyhound dam and plenty fast enough for foxes... pie.jpg Very handsome .... I have that very same picture here mate ..... Quote Link to post
cathunter 8 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 If your wanting a dog like that in Australia. been in hunting mags with write ups on breed an origin of blood lines. there is line bred bullgrey's 25 plus years of breeding, that they use for pigs, thicker skin, heaps of drive, constant look of dog, 26 inch to 28 inch. Be bit of an outlay to get a pup but would be cheaper with better results IMO. Pm if you want phone numbers Quote Link to post
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