whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 would love to chat but british rail been on the phone ,.................got to move a bunny from the tracks......... I know your there if I cant see you or hear you,...............but then if I cant smell you I may hear you...........until I see you Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Yes put your ear to ground you can hear a ferret scratching at a rabbit. Here's a experiment for you bury some rabbit guts a foot under ground(I will give you some if you want) If your dogs are like mine they will dig them straight out as will foxes,Next day bury them 3 foot they won't even scrape the soil neither will the foxes,because they cannot smell them. so how can blood hounds follow scent that's maybe a fortnight old for miles and miles? sometimes for days as in a few cases in the USA. i do believe there's a lot we don't understand about scent or the way a dog uses it senses just to throw one in on scent how deep can a search and rescue dog locate using scent ?. That's a good one....but would they ever be searching air tight compacted soil,or building rubble avalanche ect with air pockets? Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 if you ask me ,.................scent has nothing to do with stamina,.................lol I think hearing and scent rely on each other in a dog ,.............they are balanced out so well that a dog uses each one when it needs too........and no one will prove different ..... Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 have a read on scenting dogs Forensic Science Central – Detection Dogs 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Tell you what, you need some stamina to read this thread 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,907 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Defo think it's possible to increase the stamina in the dog but as Socks said different dog breeds have different anatomical features that give them an edge. Seen different breeds go from slags to athletes just by pushing them that little bit harder each day but there is always a ceiling. spot on, with any dog the more work=runs it gets it will improve on its stamina, but as above there all got a limit, (there) limit,and even in the same litter , it will differ with all the pups from the same breeding. Ive all ways thought that what ever breed you use in the mix of a lurcher ,collie,saluki,deerhound,..... ,you hoping that gene comes through, but when put back to a greyhound, you just dont really know .As greys are sprinters 1st, stamina maybe 2nd-3rd on the list. Even with 1xs what ever the other breed, on paper its 4 1/8s greyhound and 4/8s ? but it could carry the gene more of the greyhound you just dont know. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Tell you what, you need some stamina to read this thread Well, I am all out of puff,...FFS... The bottom line is,...'talk is dirt cheap',...and all the theorising in the world won't make up for a long hard night,.. of practical.... I remember hearing the same script decades ago,...and I've lost count of the men who have said, 'My dog has got amazing stamina, resilience, fantastic strike',.etc,.etc,..and I would love to see how he goes on a place that is teeming with rabbits'.. My answer today, would be the same as it was back then,...'Well,..put your troubled mind to rest, once and for fecking all and go out and try it,..and then you will know'.... I've regularly killed rabbits under the lamp,.night after night, after bleeding night,.all through the Autumn, the Winter and early Spring and trust me,..it gets gutty and takes some doing from both man and dog,..and although it is obvious that stamina, fitness and determination play a big part,...you have still got to have a base desire,..or you will both crumble All the best, Phil. Edited June 18, 2013 by Phil Lloyd 4 Quote Link to post
bird 9,907 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Tell you what, you need some stamina to read this thread Well, I am all out of puff,...FFS... The bottom line is,...'talk is dirt cheap',...and all the theorising in the world won't make up for a long hard night,.. of practical.... I remember hearing the same script decades ago,...and I've lost count of the men who have said, 'My dog has got amazing stamina, resilience, fantastic strike',.etc,.etc,..and I would love to see how he goes on a place that is teeming with rabbits'.. My answer today, would be the same as it was back then,...'Well,..put your troubled mind to rest, once and for fecking all and go out and try it,..and then you will know'.... I've regularly killed rabbits under the lamp,.night after night, after bleeding night,.all through the Autumn, the Winter and early Spring and trust me,..it gets gutty and takes some doing from both man and dog,..and although it is obvious that stamina, fitness and determination play a big part,...you have still got to have a base desire,..or you will both crumble All the best, Phil. ] true phil ,it (does) test you mate when you hit the big 60,( years ) not feckin rabbits Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Some really interesting replies, thanks gents. Perhaps i'll start a separate thread on scenting abilities as the thread is being pulled that way like iron filings to a magnet Anything is better than a "show us your bull cross" thread Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,315 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Haha @ Phil,it's the truth though fella,in my days of going out lamping "umpteen" nights consecutive,skinning,selling,collecting the previous nights booty i put some SERIOUS effort into the game,by feck am I paying for it now lol,hardly sleeping,wet through to the bone for the most,driving thousands of miles infact one motor ended up with 250,000 on and it had 81,000 when I got it lol..stamina lol,sometimes infect plenty of times I've seen lads quit long before their dog would of..a man needs both physical and mental stamina if they want to succeed in this game..good craic guys,I'm enjoying it..the sun is shining,it's a corker of a day so I'm away up the lakes with the pooches..ATB Andy 6 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 My car had 6000 miles when I brought it,now it's done144567,do you think I could try my dog on a rabbit now or should I carry on having her chase the car? 4 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Some really interesting replies, thanks gents. Perhaps i'll start a separate thread on scenting abilities as the thread is being pulled that way like iron filings to a magnet Anything is better than a "show us your bull cross" thread Please DO NOT do that. The knowledge of a dogs nose on this site is just far too much for me to bare. HAHA! 3 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,175 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Lol at weasel.. And what a show off,, I've never been able to buy a motor with just 6000 on the clock,,feck me that's brand new,,, mine normaly have 100,000 , and cost around 500 quid....lol,, in fact IDE be loath to put a dead rabbit and wet dog in such a motor.... Good thread,, you were due though Simmo,,,,,,, 2 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Lol at weasel.. And what a show off,, I've never been able to buy a motor with just 6000 on the clock,,feck me that's brand new,,, mine normaly have 100,000 , and cost around 500 quid....lol,, in fact IDE be loath to put a dead rabbit and wet dog in such a motor.... Good thread,, you were due though Simmo,,,,,,, Ha For once I was in the right place at the right time,will never have another so knew..Still had to get up every morning and go to work to pay for it. Who's most dedicated the lads supplementing there dole with a bit of meat,Or the working lads that despite having to get up early every morning to go to work,do there best by there dogs getting them out 3-4 nights a week then getting up half hour early to gut the rabbits. I had very little work last winter ferreted 3-5 days a week lamped when ever it was worth it,and I tell you it was fantastic, life how it should be. But It didn't mean I was any better than the lads working,doing there bit. Mind by feb I was sick at the sight of rabbits Quote Link to post
brigg 54 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 the moors you can hit with average dogs straight of the chain and take numbers Quote Link to post
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