RSPB and DOE setting up falcon breeder's

[Johnjo 0]

i think it should be kept open, and moderated as need be, not having a dig SPAR but i can see if you was a mod you would have closed and binned it by now.

lets not this be ANOTHER forum DEREK CANNING has been banned from.

 

Is there not a common denominator in all this

 

You will see from the tripe he posts what it is

[jasper65 6]

I have had a couple of people ask to close this thread and yep it has been getting pretty sour! Today I have also had others ask to leave it open for a while longer? Piggy in the middle springs to mind here but I have noticed in the past with threads like this that have kicked off on different boards! the gennuine Guys stay cool and tell it as it is even under pressure and stick to their guns! the Bullshitters talking Bollox eventually mix their words and eventualy get hung out to dry.....

 

If its Unanimous you want this thread closed NOT deleted! then let me know and it'll be done, having said that there has been no abuse or threats just some accusations which are now being answered.....

[Neil Hunter 0]

is'nt this all between Mr Canning and Hunter? ,as they say give them enough rope and they will hang themselves so surely no one else need get involved?

 

 

I take exception to this remark"give them "enough rope and they will hang themselves.How much more of a straight to the point reply to this do I need to give to show I have nothing to hide. I was actually the victim of a crime.I purchased a peregrine that was passed off as captive bred.There is no rope in here for me to hang myself. I do agree that it should not be on a public forum. I keep getting sent links to the next place Canning has joined and printed this tripe about me.

 

Neil

[wag 13]

well so what no one is perfect live and let live i say, at times i think you all talk a load of bollocks and i am quite sure at times you have broke the law. now i think your just jumping on the band wagon the man deserves a chance. i certainly wont hold it against him .

[Neil Hunter 0]

I have had a couple of people ask to close this thread and yep it has been getting pretty sour! Today I have also had others ask to leave it open for a while longer? Piggy in the middle springs to mind here but I have noticed in the past with threads like this that have kicked off on different boards! the gennuine Guys stay cool and tell it as it is even under pressure and stick to their guns! the Bullshitters talking Bollox eventually mix their words and eventualy hang themselves and get hung out to dry.....

 

If its Unanimous you want this thread closed NOT deleted! then let me know and it'll be done, having said that there has been no abuse or threats just some accusations which are now being answered.....

 

I am only new to this place and only joined to defend myself. This man is a convicted peregrine thief,of that there is no doubt. He has served his time.We are now 15 years down the line and still it carries on. He produced a receipt allegedly from me thanking him for the "gift" of the peregrine. It was dismissed at the civil case as it was in Cannings handwriting and he had spelt my address incorrectly.He has told so many lies over the years ,he actually now believes them himself.

I don't mind if the thread continues as he will just post it elsewhere in anycase,although I think it is obvious that he is a compulsive liar who cannot help himself and it does no good for it to be posted anywhere.

 

Regards,

Neil Hunter

[SPAR 2]

OK Neil I'm pulling out now as you are here to defend yourself. It will be interesting what posts will go up between you and Mr Canning I will be watching closely. Like you said it was 15+ years ago and some people just cant let it go He's" done the crime and done the time" but still want more.

I wish you all the best in the future

Good Luck

SPAR

[Scooby Falcons 0]

OK Neil I'm pulling out now as you are here to defend yourself. It will be interesting what posts will go up between you and Mr Canning I will be watching closely. Like you said it was 15+ years ago and some people just cant let it go He's" done the crime and done the time" but still want more.

I wish you all the best in the future

Good Luck

SPAR

 

The fight goes on eh ! I,ve heard more than a few stories myself.

Lets forget the RSPB & wild birds etc for just a minute.

 

What about certain individuals who take expensive captive bred birds from breeders and refuse to pay for them !

And still keep them too !!!!

 

I wonder who they are !!

 

Any suggestions ??

[Neil Hunter 0]

OK Neil I'm pulling out now as you are here to defend yourself. It will be interesting what posts will go up between you and Mr Canning I will be watching closely. Like you said it was 15+ years ago and some people just cant let it go He's" done the crime and done the time" but still want more.

I wish you all the best in the future

Good Luck

SPAR

 

The fight goes on eh ! I,ve heard more than a few stories myself.

Lets forget the RSPB & wild birds etc for just a minute.

 

What about certain individuals who take expensive captive bred birds from breeders and refuse to pay for them !

And still keep them too !!!!

 

I wonder who they are !!

 

Any suggestions ??

 

Interesting. But there are 2 sides to that story also. I really don't think this is the place for that.There are more stories I could tell about the same breeder,who as it happens is in thick with Mr Canning.A real can of worms.What is it though about people wanting to come on these forums to settle "scores". I thought they were about sharing experiences and common interests....

[Johnjo 0]

are you the same DEREK CANNING that posted a peregrine through the letter box of a wildlife liasion officer, in FOUR bits?

 

 

YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT

ok tell me the facts!

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW?

The truth about Neil Hunter for example..

WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT THE CRIMES OF THE RSPB AND ANIMAL HEALTH? This goes on all the time unchecked.

 

The Watchdog programme and Sweetman

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Watchdog programme setting sweetman up by the DofE

 

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Guy Shorrock withheld among other evidence, the registration documents that showed that I Derek Canning did not sell various peregrine falcons that I was found guilty of selling. This allowed for example Neil Hunter to make a false statement in relation to birds that he falsely claimed that I had sold him.

 

If what I have said is doubted then ask Neil Hunter to explain why an experienced police officer [as he was at the time when he made the false statement] like Neil Hunter filled in the registration document below in such a way that he claimed that the bird he received from me was a ‘gift’ yet later on he made a statement to say the bird was sold to him by me. The statement that the bird was a GIFT can be affirmed in Hunter’s own handwriting below. Therefore, either way Hunter has committed a crime and he should prosecute. As he was a police officer, of course, his colleagues and the DOE closed ranks and he was not prosecuted. If it had of been you or me then the situation would have been different. This is double standards and Hunter is lower than a criminal is as he has lied to send an innocent man to jail. To make matters worse Hunter was then made a wildlife liaison officer instead of being prosecuted.

 

Neil Hunter is now an ex-police officer and he was a friend until he made a false statement that I sold him a cabled tied bird. Hunter’s brother and his friends also received a number of birds from me in the summer 1992. Significantly, in the summer 1993 Neil Hunter was given, as a conditional gift, a male cable tied Peregrine Falcon. I did not see Neil Hunter at my Court case at Newcastle Crown Court in the summer of 1995 and furthermore I am not aware of him carrying out any investigations into my case. I am not aware of him being involved in any investigations involving birds. Guy Shorrock [who has been heavily criticised in the R v Burden case and the R v Myatt case] was the person whom investigated my case. Given they aforesaid I would make the following comments:

1] I knew that Neil Hunter was a Police officer at the times that he collected birds from me in 1992 and 1993.

2] We both knew that at the time Hunter was given a cable tied bird that I could not have legally sold to him a cable tied Peregrine Falcon number UK 84492 without a licence. This fact was clearly stated on the registration document for all to see. Given this fact, it is inconceivable that I would have sold a cabled bird to a Police officer and not have expected to have been exposed when the officer saw the cable tie on the bird’s leg and filled in the registration document stating the bird was subject of a sale. If Hunter were telling the truth about me selling him a cabled tied peregrine falcon, he would have reported the matter to the Police straight away, as he would have known that I had committed a crime. Of course, he did not report the matter to the Police, as he had not been sold a cable bird. He waited until the police or may be Guy Shorrock contacted him before he changed his story to say that I sold him a bird.

 

Given that Neil Hunter signed the legally binding Department of the Environment registration document to state that the cabled tied bird that he received from me was a gift, why was he not prosecuted for making a false declaration as it states on the form if you make a false declaration?

 

I will clearly state again that the registration document in question clearly states it is an offence to make a false declaration. In short either which way Neil Hunter has committed a criminal offence so why was he not prosecuted? Because he is a police officer would could speculate!

3] I could have sold Neil Hunter a close-ringed Peregrine Falcon if I had of wanted to, instead of giving him as a gift a cable tied bird.

4] Many years later and after my Crown Court case, I took legal action against Neil Hunter purely to secure the legally binding registration document that Neil Hunter signed to confirm that the peregrine falcon that he received from me was a gift. Also, note that the charge of selling Neil Hunter a cabled tied peregrine falcon was discontinued at Hexham Magistrates Court: in fact, I was found not guilty of all the offences that I was charged with at Hexham Magistrates Court.

 

The whole truth and nothing but the truth of the matter is that Neil Hunter came into my aviary in 1993 that contained fourteen plus peregrine falcons, and he was given the choice of only two young cable tied bird in the aviary. He knew that, as he was not being asked to pay any money for the bird that I was giving him he had to pick from the two young cable tied peregrine falcons. These birds would be the hardest for me to move onto other keepers, as nobody really wants a cable tied bird, due to the law that applies to cable tied birds in 1993, beside I would have had to secure a licence to sell a cable tied bird, therefore it made sense to ask my good friend at that time, Neil Hunter, to take a cable tied bird. The only thing that I am guilty of is being taken advantage of by Neil Hunter. It was very convenient for Neil Hunter to have fallen out with me therefore, he would not be asked to return my birds that were on a conditional breeding loan/gift as agreed.

 

Hunter has stated that I gave him as a gift two sparrow hawks that I could have legally sold him yet at the same time, he claims that I sold him a cable tied peregrine falcon. Why would I sell a bird that would result in me being banned and fined then give Hunter two birds that I could have sold him free of charge? Neil Hunter’s story has no truth and no logic.

 

If there is any point that is in doubt, I would be happy to email relevant documents that affirm my contentions dilated above.

 

 

Derek Canning LLB [HONS]

 

Finally, ask Neil why he really left the police force?

 

 

 

Even my solicitor was denied access to the registration documents that showed certain birds had not been sold, however after I personally served a witnesses summons on Lynne Garvey I was given the relevant documents that proved my contentions.

Banning me from your Forum for doing, nothing wrong does not absolve you from the truth and your duty do what is right no matter how much you want it to the other. Good men need do nothing to allow evil to prevail is a maxi that I would ask you to debate before.

 

In fact, my guilt or innocence is not relevant at this point, however what is relevant is how perjury and lies were used to convict me, as without justice then we have nothing but a dictatorship.

Thanks Derek its nice to read your side of things and I have to say after reading the above I am shocked

 

 

 

When was Neil Hunter ever a friend of yours, certainly not to my knowwledge, anither example of how you manipulate the truth to

make your side of the story and I mean story more pallatable to others

[SPAR 2]

All I can say is, its strange how some people come on to forums shouting the odds off then out of the blue a person who its directed to becomes a member how soon it is before they go into hiding maybe that person is sitting in front of the computer screen chewing it and unable to see any posts.

[Scooby Falcons 0]

OK Neil I'm pulling out now as you are here to defend yourself. It will be interesting what posts will go up between you and Mr Canning I will be watching closely. Like you said it was 15+ years ago and some people just cant let it go He's" done the crime and done the time" but still want more.

I wish you all the best in the future

Good Luck

SPAR

 

The fight goes on eh ! I,ve heard more than a few stories myself.

Lets forget the RSPB & wild birds etc for just a minute.

 

What about certain individuals who take expensive captive bred birds from breeders and refuse to pay for them !

And still keep them too !!!!

 

I wonder who they are !!

 

Any suggestions ??

 

Interesting. But there are 2 sides to that story also. I really don't think this is the place for that.There are more stories I could tell about the same breeder,who as it happens is in thick with Mr Canning.A real can of worms.What is it though about people wanting to come on these forums to settle "scores". I thought they were about sharing experiences and common interests....

 

Well I haven't named any individual at all, but it seems that someone was quick to jump on the bandwagon.

I have more sense than to name and frame people.

Nevertheless the stories you can tell about that certain breeder, please help yourself and tell not just me, but the world wide web, go for it !! I await your reply !

[Neil Hunter 0]

OK Neil I'm pulling out now as you are here to defend yourself. It will be interesting what posts will go up between you and Mr Canning I will be watching closely. Like you said it was 15+ years ago and some people just cant let it go He's" done the crime and done the time" but still want more.

I wish you all the best in the future

Good Luck

SPAR

 

The fight goes on eh ! I,ve heard more than a few stories myself.

Lets forget the RSPB & wild birds etc for just a minute.

 

What about certain individuals who take expensive captive bred birds from breeders and refuse to pay for them !

And still keep them too !!!!

 

I wonder who they are !!

 

Any suggestions ??

 

Interesting. But there are 2 sides to that story also. I really don't think this is the place for that.There are more stories I could tell about the same breeder,who as it happens is in thick with Mr Canning.A real can of worms.What is it though about people wanting to come on these forums to settle "scores". I thought they were about sharing experiences and common interests....

 

Well I haven't named any individual at all, but it seems that someone was quick to jump on the bandwagon.

I have more sense than to name and frame people.

Nevertheless the stories you can tell about that certain breeder, please help yourself and tell not just me, but the world wide web, go for it !! I await your reply !

 

I'll leave that for a different day and place.Whatsmore I am not hiding under a name other than my real name.I not keen on discussing this with people hiding behind a keyboard. I don't want start using a good forum for petty squabbling.

 

Neil Hunter

[Blackspar 0]

I support Derek Canning 100% in what he is doing, ie: to expose the truth behind the matter and the corruption that lies within certain organisations.

He should have been allowed to post his information on the IFF, but the big wigs sought to remove his info and ban him from the forum.

 

Why ? Was he getting to close to the truth and the individuals concerned losing their backbones.

 

You have my full support Derek.

 

Keep it going in the interests of justice.

 

Very interesting Derek always nice to read both sides and make your own mind up about the situation.

 

Next thing you know they will be saying the Watchdog programme was fake

[SPAR 2]

Still waiting for some of my questions to be answered as posted earlier

[Harris Will 3]

Hmmmm, strange that he seems to have vanished off this thread now for some strange reason!