davyt63 1,845 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 well the chrono results are in after davy did my spring., with jsb 8.44gr it was doing 11.8 now its doing 8.2 couple of washers to bump it up slightly and it will be sorted at about 9.5-10 for the meet hi skott the delrin spacer that comes with the V Mach kit is 4.22mm the preload washers that come with the V Mach kit is 1.23mm i took off 2 coils at 11.69mm which should work out at 1.8fpe per coil? so it should equate if you use the delrin spacer, it should bring it back by 2.7fpe to 10.9fpe? i think you should try three preload washers,this i believe will get you near to 9.5/9.8fpe ? please let me know how it goes the calculations i have done are from my own finding,this may differ from yours? Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 bloody hell davy didn't realise there was so much science and maths involved haha only joking mate.. new calculation for you.. ive just put 1 washer in and the delrin spacer (as my pm said) and just got the rifle back together for the 4th time this week .. and im not bloody stripping it down again seen enough of its insides to last me a lifetime so what you recon it will be doing then now with spacer + 1 washer Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 so it might be just over 11 judging by your last post.. I guess the hw97 and the tx200 have different cylinders , different weight pistons, different volumes and all that lol so will be slightly different guess we will see when I chrono it again, probably Tuesday night. il keep you updated bud SKoT Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 so it might be just over 11 judging by your last post.. I guess the hw97 and the tx200 have different cylinders , different weight pistons, different volumes and all that lol so will be slightly different guess we will see when I chrono it again, probably Tuesday night. il keep you updated bud SKoT hi Skott yes buddy there will be different tollerences between the Air Arms and the HW97,I would try just the delrin spacer for now,then if you need to add a washer all you need to do is take the trigger unit out,grease the washer both sides sparringly and stick it to the bottom of the top hat and put the spring back in. 1 Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Sounds like between you, you are going to have a brilliant setup rifle Skot. Ive been reading this with interest as my .177 HW97KT as settled now and bedded in at 11.4 FPE with AA Fields and im thinking im going to get it taken down to between 10 and 10.5 FPE. Going off your calculations if I take off 3/4 of a coil my rifle will go from 11.4 to 10 FPE. Si. Edited June 17, 2013 by zini Quote Link to post
porkycrook 466 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I can see that we might well get some tent sharing at the next THL meet, that is until Si calls and Davy will dump you . Roger I saw the twinkle that you had in your eye for Davy at the wedding when he was all suited and booted . I secretly think that you have a tiny lump in your pants for him . Back to the thread "sorry VM" . Yes Davy is a top bloke . I will never ever trust Laura again, she said that she would never tell about my "little lump". Everybody will now see what I was meaning about you two (Si and Davy) having something going on between you two. We start picking on little Davy and who steps in but Big Bad Si. Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sounds like between you, you are going to have a brilliant setup rifle Skot. Ive been reading this with interest as my .177 HW97KT as settled now and bedded in at 11.4 FPE with AA Fields and im thinking im going to get it taken down to between 10 and 10.5 FPE. Going off your calculations if I take off 3/4 of a coil my rifle will go from 11.4 to 10 FPE. Si. don't forget Si there are other variables, your spring is a SFS spring, probably different to the springs from a vmach kit.. might have tighter coils or thicker steel or something like that haha its all very scientific isn't it what I will say is, as standard and self fettled both my 97's were very smooth.. the .22 more so, and very easy to cock with the .177 considerably more effort was needed to cock it.. both close to 12 FPE but at 8 FPE yesterday the .177 was nearly cocking itself it was that easy!! and it does seem a lot easier to shoot at 8.2 compared to 11.8 a lot less recoil, I was watching pellets fly through the air, through the scope!! never done that before with a springer,, not even when lamping ATB mate SKoT Quote Link to post
valboskie 39 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) I would also like to thank davy63t . Davy also took a coil off for me and polished the spring and I can't thank him enough My 97 was doing over 12fpe with Falcon accuracy plus 7.33gn and 11.55 with jsb exacts 8.44 being new to springers I was just at a loss what to do. I posted on here and davy pmd me gave me his number and that was that sorted. The spring arrived this morning and im now just waiting on my grease to arrive from sfs and ill get the rifle back together and chrono it . The man is a true gent and a pleasure to talk to. So thank you davy Cheers Edited June 29, 2013 by valboskie 3 Quote Link to post
goz1960 52 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 I would also like to thank davy63t . Davy also took a coil off for me and polished the spring and I can't thank him enough My 97 was doing over 12fpe with Falcon accuracy plus 7.33gn and 11.55 with jsb exacts 8.44 being new to springers I was just at a loss what to do. I posted on here and davy pmd me gave me his number and that was that sorted. The spring arrived this morning and im now just waiting on my grease to arrive from sfs and ill get the rifle back together and chrono it . The man is a true gent and a pleasure to talk to. So thank you davy Cheers Watched Davy doing this the time and effort to get things just right was a thing to behold, the reason I was there was Davy helping me yet again true gent. 1 Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I would also like to thank davy63t . Davy also took a coil off for me and polished the spring and I can't thank him enough My 97 was doing over 12fpe with Falcon accuracy plus 7.33gn and 11.55 with jsb exacts 8.44 being new to springers I was just at a loss what to do. I posted on here and davy pmd me gave me his number and that was that sorted. The spring arrived this morning and im now just waiting on my grease to arrive from sfs and ill get the rifle back together and chrono it . The man is a true gent and a pleasure to talk to. So thank you davy Cheers hi V no problem buddy i recently checked my 97and found it to be high,i took of one coil and compressed it.now its running at 10.2fpe and hopefully it will bed in to around 10.4 fpe also had the same problem with my AATX once i fitted the V Mach kit,12.2 once fitted but after a quick fettle,its now at 9.1fpe hoping for it to settle at 9.5fpe let me know how you get on,when you put it over the chronograph I would also like to thank davy63t . Davy also took a coil off for me and polished the spring and I can't thank him enough My 97 was doing over 12fpe with Falcon accuracy plus 7.33gn and 11.55 with jsb exacts 8.44 being new to springers I was just at a loss what to do. I posted on here and davy pmd me gave me his number and that was that sorted. The spring arrived this morning and im now just waiting on my grease to arrive from sfs and ill get the rifle back together and chrono it . The man is a true gent and a pleasure to talk to. So thank you davy Cheers Watched Davy doing this the time and effort to get things just right was a thing to behold, the reason I was there was Davy helping me yet again true gent. hi nigel you turned up at the right time how is the sling studs doing? i dont mind if members want a coil or two taken off,just give me a PM and we can get it sorted. or if you would rather do it your self,take a look at VHTV i have done a tutorial on "how to" Quote Link to post
goz1960 52 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 All good mate, had another couple of bunnies last night. Quote Link to post
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