Working Collie

[dytkos 17,837]

I like a bit of collie in a lurcher but I can't say that I like collies very much.

Seem some good ones working stock, ferreting and catching foxes during the day but they are like alsations to me.

I would never trust one 100%

 

Cheers, D.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

@BorderScot...

Edited June 15, 2013 by Phil Lloyd

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

@BorderScot...

 

This Internet business,.. has spawned some real strange folk,...unfortunately,..there is feck all that can be done to control such creatures.

 

As a lifelong enthusiast of the ultimate canine, the lurcher...I am always drawn back,.. into conversation, debate,.arguement,.even posting the odd photo, etc,..but, in truth, this is a crazy place for any hunting man...

 

Lets enjoy the Summer,.keep our true friends close,... and carry on Mouching....

 

And ain't that the truth...

 

Too crazy for me by far...I'm just gonna feck off and enjoy the summer, my pup and real life...take care...

 

Adios...

[tjones3862 3,423]

FROM WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THEY LOVE HEARDING, WE ALL NO THAT, BUT THE MAIN THING IM TAKEING IN THEY LOVE TO BRING THE CATCH, IFF WE CALL IT THAT, IM MEANTHE SHEEP SO TO SPEAK TOWARDS FARMER, BUT CAN THEY HANDLE THING,S RUNNING AWAY FROM THEM, OR DOSE THE BRAIN KICK IN' AND THE GENES COME OUT THEM AND SAY WE ARNT MADE FOR THIS,,,AFTER A HAND FULL OFF TIME ,S DOSE THE BRAIN SAY ENOUGH HIS ENOUGH,,,,,,

Edited June 15, 2013 by tjones3862

[paulsmithy83 567]

Funny that borderscot n phil loyd hence why I edited within 30 secs of post [BANNED TEXT] brain engage. I pm instead n had honest chat [BANNED TEXT] ray

[trenchfoot 4,243]

FROM WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THEY LOVE HEARDING, WE ALL NO THAT, BUT THE MAIN THING IM TAKEING IN THEY LOVE TO BRING THE CATCH, IFF WE CALL IT THAT, IM MEANTHE SHEEP SO TO SPEAK TOWARDS FARMER, BUT CAN THEY HANDLE THING,S RUNNING AWAY FROM THEM, OR DOSE THE BRAIN KICK IN' AND THE GENES COME OUT THEM AND SAY WE ARNT MADE FOR THIS,,,AFTER A HAND FULL OFF TIME ,S DOSE THE BRAIN SAY ENOUGH HIS ENOUGH,,,,,,

Seen them pick and choose rabbits, but wouldn't say they were sickend off them. Never seen it with deer though

[tjones3862 3,423]

IAGREE MATE, AND WE NO ITS NOT WHEN THE DOGS ARE TIRED, ITS CAN DO IT AT THE START OF THE NIGHT, HAS THE WORKING COLLIE KICKED IN EARLY, IN AGE, AND TWIGGED ON THERE NOT A DOG FOR CHACEING GAME, THE DEER SIDE OF IT, MOST DOGS WHAT RAPP UP ON RABBITS WILL CHASE DEER TILL THEY DROP,,,HIS THAT WHY THE COLLIE GRAFTS FOR HOURS ON THEM,, THERE S ONLY A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DEER AND A SHEEP,,,

Edited June 15, 2013 by tjones3862

[Ideation 8,216]

FROM WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THEY LOVE HEARDING, WE ALL NO THAT, BUT THE MAIN THING IM TAKEING IN THEY LOVE TO BRING THE CATCH, IFF WE CALL IT THAT, IM MEANTHE SHEEP SO TO SPEAK TOWARDS FARMER, BUT CAN THEY HANDLE THING,S RUNNING AWAY FROM THEM, OR DOSE THE BRAIN KICK IN' AND THE GENES COME OUT THEM AND SAY WE ARNT MADE FOR THIS,,,AFTER A HAND FULL OFF TIME ,S DOSE THE BRAIN SAY ENOUGH HIS ENOUGH,,,,,,

 

Whilst trial dogs are not allowed to mouth the sheep, plenty of the hill collies here and used to grab and hold sheep so they can be worked on, on the hill

[trenchfoot 4,243]

MOST DOGS WHAT RAPP UP ON RABBITS WILL CHASE DEER TILL THEY DROP,,,HIS THAT WHY THE COLLIE GRAFTS FOR HOURS ON THEM,, THERE S ONLY A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DEER AND A SHEEP,,,

 

thats why its hard to find such a collie type, they tend to end up in the ground before an enlightened individual can utilise their traits in a lurcher line

[brigg 54]

IAGREE MATE, AND WE NO ITS NOT WHEN THE DOGS ARE TIRED, ITS CAN DO IT AT THE START OF THE NIGHT, HAS THE WORKING COLLIE KICKED IN EARLY, IN AGE, AND TWIGGED ON THERE NOT A DOG FOR CHACEING GAME, THE DEER SIDE OF IT, MOST DOGS WHAT RAPP UP ON RABBITS WILL CHASE DEER TILL THEY DROP,,,HIS THAT WHY THE COLLIE GRAFTS FOR HOURS ON THEM,, THERE S ONLY A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DEER AND A SHEEP,,,

so your saying failed rabbit dogs make good deer dogs,

[Guest vin]

 

i know a lad who uses a border bitch for Ferreting..one of the best markers I've seen work,

WUD YOU SAY VIN IT AT TOO COME OFF FULL WORKING PARENTS TO DO IT, HAS IVE SAID ROUNDING SHEEP UP ON A HILL HIS TOTALLY DIFFRENT TO HUNTING BUNNYS,,,

 

 

Quite an old dog now and from old working stock,but dog has always been used with the lurchers and ferrets.

[tjones3862 3,423]

 

IAGREE MATE, AND WE NO ITS NOT WHEN THE DOGS ARE TIRED, ITS CAN DO IT AT THE START OF THE NIGHT, HAS THE WORKING COLLIE KICKED IN EARLY, IN AGE, AND TWIGGED ON THERE NOT A DOG FOR CHACEING GAME, THE DEER SIDE OF IT, MOST DOGS WHAT RAPP UP ON RABBITS WILL CHASE DEER TILL THEY DROP,,,HIS THAT WHY THE COLLIE GRAFTS FOR HOURS ON THEM,, THERE S ONLY A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DEER AND A SHEEP,,,

so your saying failed rabbit dogs make good deer dogs,

NO NOT A ALL, WHAT IM SAYING A DOG NEVER SEEM TO JACK ON DEER WHEN THEY HAVE THE TASTE FOR THEM,,,BUT YOU WILL AND EVERY 1 KNOWS SOME 1,, WHO HAS A LAMP RABBITING DOG JUST GO OFF THE BOIL, NOT SAYING EVERY 1 HAS A RABBITING DOSE DEER BUT IF THEY DO I BET THET DONT GO OFF THE BOIL ON DEER,,, LIKE I SAID COLLIE THE MITE GRAFT ALL DAY WHAT A BUZZ IT MITE BE GETTING, THE SHEEP IS THE NEXT BEST THING TO A DEER ,,AT THE END OF THE DAY,,,,, BUT WUD IT GRAFT ON RABBITS ALL DAY ,,,, AND THATS WHAT WE WANT AT THE END OF THE DAY,,,

 

Edited June 15, 2013 by tjones3862

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

IAGREE MATE, AND WE NO ITS NOT WHEN THE DOGS ARE TIRED, ITS CAN DO IT AT THE START OF THE NIGHT, HAS THE WORKING COLLIE KICKED IN EARLY, IN AGE, AND TWIGGED ON THERE NOT A DOG FOR CHACEING GAME, THE DEER SIDE OF IT, MOST DOGS WHAT RAPP UP ON RABBITS WILL CHASE DEER TILL THEY DROP,,,HIS THAT WHY THE COLLIE GRAFTS FOR HOURS ON THEM,, THERE S ONLY A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DEER AND A SHEEP,,,

 

so your saying failed rabbit dogs make good deer dogs,

I think you need to bear in mind that we are talking working collies, not collie cross lurchers. I think that the collie brain gets used to rabbits fecking off down holes, cover etc. Then some start to run clever and pick their runs. Deer are too different in that they stay above ground and are more visible when running when due to their size. It takes a bit more for a determined dog to give up on one compared to a rabbit, if that dog is a thinker. I have heard and thought, in the past, that the similarity of deer to sheep was what created to the drive of the "rogue collie" to chase them, but now I'm unsure as a good collie/collie x would ignore sheep if used to working deer. Pre ban of course

[tjones3862 3,423]

WELL IM OFF TO BED NOW UP IM THE MORNING A 5 DAY TRIP LOOKING FOR THESE RABBITS,,WHAT GETS ALL THIS CHAT GOING,, ON HERE,,,LOL

Edited June 15, 2013 by tjones3862

[trenchfoot 4,243]

WELL IM OFF TO BED NOW UP IM THE MORNING A 5 DAY TRIP LOOKING FOR THESE RABBITS,,WHAT GETS ALL THIS CHAT GOING,, ON HERE,,,LOL

Lucky you, I've a load of sheep to de-dag at feet trim. Guess that collie might come in handy, but I'll leave the bull x at home. Enjoy, and fill ya boots