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Persevere mate. Keep asking, someone will eventually need your help and that will have a positive effect on the neighbouring farms.

 

Failing that, go wherever you like :thumbs: As long as your careful and leave the land as you find it they wont even know you've been there......

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and wow they are rude i was just trying to do them a favor :(

 

Rude?

 

What is rude about not letting a complete stranger onto your land?

 

Would you give someone you have never met before carte blanche to kill animals on your land, remembering that these farmers may have already been 'burnt' by someone else in the past who poached, or lacked any respect?

 

If you go about this the correct way, print off some business cards, create a letterhead and print off some letters with your name and address, with perhaps a copy of a reference then post these out. Remembering to run it through a spell check first.

 

Treat it like a business, dress smart. I don't mean a suit and tie! But look the part, be polite, understanding and make sure you ooze professionalism.

 

At the same time as your face to face meetings, offer your services to the land owner. Do they need beaters if they are an estate. Can you help out during harvest. Would they like to you clean the yard, doesn't matter what it is, just be prepared to work to earn their trust.

 

Then you will start to get results.

 

 

/Mad

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for a start mate i didnt say they where rude for not letting me ferret on there land i said rude as the way they spoke and acted

 

 

Sorry,

 

my mistake, I read it wrong.

 

Still... remember that you have no idea what these guys have had to put up with in the past. People running dogs on their land, ferreters digging holes and leaving them for his stock to fall in and break limbs. Idiots running over his land with boom boom sticks shooting anything that moves. Local kids with air rifles etc etc.

 

You can understand that after a while 'them lot' are all tarred with the same brush. You have to try your hardest to change their perception. And I personally feel that not stepping onto anyones land without permission is a damn good way to start.

 

Good luck and remember that it is like door to door salesmen. The one sale makes up for all the doors slammed in the face.

 

regards,

 

/mad

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i see mate yeh i see where you are comeing from im writeing a letter i have got up to

 

dear sir/madam

 

I am writeing to offer my services either ferreting your land.

I am prepared to work for this opportunity,cleaning the yard,mucking out ect.

 

ent got a clue what else to say LOL

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It is useful to have some kind of insurance, such as belong to the Countryside Alliance or BASC etc.

 

I agree that cold calling is a risky way to go as most farmers (and people in general actually) don't like it when a complete stranger comes to their door and asks for something. A lettter is much better, then follow that up with a phone call a few days later.

 

If your'e a young lad then obviously your task is 100% more difficult as most farmers are very suspicious anyway, and doubly so of youngsters wanting to get on their land.

 

If you are in a shooting area can you offer to go beating on the local shoots? If they let you: and I do mean that they will make you feel as though its a privilege to begin with!! then turn up on time, dressed correctly and with enough food and drink to last you the day; obey orders to the letter and generally be seen to be doing the job properly. Don't shoot your mouth off and do be respectful to EVERYONE else and don't mess about between drives.

 

A season's beating should get you in with some of the local farmers and once they know that you are not an idiot then the ferreting permission will start to come. I'ts a long haul but once you have contacts within that world you will see things start to come together.

 

It's taken me years, and I mean years, to become accepted within the local hunting/shooting community, but it's worth it in the end. Patience and perseverence will win through.

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I tried cold calling recently, best bib and tucker on, best telephone voice and like you still no joy.

I have letters printed ready to send out, problem is, how do you find out the addresses of the farms?

Most of them are up long dirt tracks and dont even have a name at the bottom, plus its near on impossible to find out the names of the roads they are situated on :blink:

MOLL.

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A friend of mine just wrote to ALL the farmers listed in the local Yellow Pages: and not just once but EVERY year for about 5 years! As he said, people die, sons take over a farm, policies change: just because someone says 'no' on one occasion doesn't mean to say give up.

He offered his services as a beater on shoots and now has about 18 farms he can go hare flushing on: and that is a damn sight harder to get as permission than ferreting, believe me, especially in an area where gangs of violent and illegal coursers were the blight of the countryside and one of the reasons it got banned in the first place.

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I have just recently aquired the right to ferret on two farms first one is 500 acres the second one 300 to 400 acres . When i aproached both farmers i tried to be as polite as possible and did`nt just dive straight in and ask them if i could ferret on there land i took the time to talk to them first ie the weather general chit chat. The reason i say this is i think it gives the farmer time to way you up and as the other folk say it is there land. Once you have broken the ice then maybe enquire about doing a bit of ferreting sometimes they allready have someone doing it but eventually being polite and gettin to know the farmer you will eventually aquire some land. Happy hunting for the future :thumbs:

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