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[baw 4,360]

 

 

So the biggest argument towards pheasant shooting is that if it disappeared the countryside as we know it would diminish. Scary thought. So far in this thread we discovered from a REAL working gamekeeper that 90% of the countries keepers have packed up leaving only 5000. That's 45,000 keepers not there. Have you noticed much difference to the countryside with there absence? I haven't. Again someone else said that a shoot he knows puts down 3500 birds and 1000 of them get taken by BOP. that's almost a third of them. A large amount I'm sure you'll agree. And yet they survive with this enormous loss. So a 'shoot' can effectively afford to lose a third of its birds and still survive..... Leave the magnificent and majestic birds alone, there's plenty of fat useless birds for everyone.

No it can't survive. . . . . that was the point

that was your point, I like to look at it from a different view point

[Paid 935]

 

Imagine The Devestation On The BOP Population If Keepers/Land Owners Where Granted Permission To Kill BsOP They Thought Was Damaging There Sport . . There Numbers Would Tumble Over Night . . I Personally Think Any Bird Of Pray Would Be Shot On Site If Laws Allowed Those Ive Mentioned A Free Hand To Manage BsOP . . Or Should I Believe They Wouldnt Persecute Anything With A Hooked Bill In There Line Off Fire Unless They Knew It Was Affecting There Shoot ?

 

You sound a lot like the folk at the RSPB mate. Making out all keepers have no interest in the natural world, and no understanding of balance.. . . and that all keepers would shoot any BOP on sight. It's just not true.

 

 

It cant be true, as many species of BOPs werent hunting to extinction or near extinction in the past were they

[mushroom 13,268]

 

Fek it , lets all get baw , the JR Ewing of the hunting life .

if only mate. Sounds better than it is I only said I Prob made more money than him cos I thought he was a student

 

Didn't realise the Dole paid so much your no a muslim immigrant are ya?? :laugh:

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

Imagine The Devestation On The BOP Population If Keepers/Land Owners Where Granted Permission To Kill BsOP They Thought Was Damaging There Sport . . There Numbers Would Tumble Over Night . . I Personally Think Any Bird Of Pray Would Be Shot On Site If Laws Allowed Those Ive Mentioned A Free Hand To Manage BsOP . . Or Should I Believe They Wouldnt Persecute Anything With A Hooked Bill In There Line Off Fire Unless They Knew It Was Affecting There Shoot ?

You sound a lot like the folk at the RSPB mate. Making out all keepers have no interest in the natural world, and no understanding of balance.. . . and that all keepers would shoot any BOP on sight. It's just not true.

It cant be true, as many species of BOPs werent hunting to extinction or near extinction in the past were they

Lets face it a BOP is an easy target for a keeper and all this shit they'd leave one or 2 is just that shit. The only reason keepers don't eliminate all vermin like foxes etc is cos they are so hard to eradicate. The same can't be said about BOP.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

Fek it , lets all get baw , the JR Ewing of the hunting life .

if only mate. Sounds better than it is I only said I Prob made more money than him cos I thought he was a student

Didn't realise the Dole paid so much your no a muslim immigrant are ya?? :laugh:

Funny you should ask....... you got that dog its hole yet

[alimac 882]

I suspect that the felling contractor had a HUGE oh shit moment after seeing that tree fall. I doubt very much it was a deliberate act, the estate are distancing themselves big style before the BBC hang them.

 

As for the arguments above, I`m firmly on the fence here,, can see the shoots issues, I am involved with a large commercial shoot and know the havoc Bop`s cause but still love to see them,, (Buzzards aside that is,, b*****ds !!)

So the biggest argument towards pheasant shooting is that if it disappeared the countryside as we know it would diminish. Scary thought. So far in this thread we discovered from a REAL working gamekeeper that 90% of the countries keepers have packed up leaving only 5000. That's 45,000 keepers not there. Have you noticed much difference to the countryside with there absence? I haven't. Again someone else said that a shoot he knows puts down 3500 birds and 1000 of them get taken by BOP. that's almost a third of them. A large amount I'm sure you'll agree. And yet they survive with this enormous loss. So a 'shoot' can effectively afford to lose a third of its birds and still survive..... Leave the magnificent and majestic birds alone, there's plenty of fat useless birds for everyone.

That's because instead of 6 - 10 keepers on a estate they now only have 1 or 2 working the same ground.. It's a fact, un keepered land goes to feck!!

 

It's what makes this site what it is, folk trying to argue the toss about things they simply know nothing about :-)

Edited June 15, 2013 by alimac

[Ideation 8,216]

 

 

 

Imagine The Devestation On The BOP Population If Keepers/Land Owners Where Granted Permission To Kill BsOP They Thought Was Damaging There Sport . . There Numbers Would Tumble Over Night . . I Personally Think Any Bird Of Pray Would Be Shot On Site If Laws Allowed Those Ive Mentioned A Free Hand To Manage BsOP . . Or Should I Believe They Wouldnt Persecute Anything With A Hooked Bill In There Line Off Fire Unless They Knew It Was Affecting There Shoot ?

You sound a lot like the folk at the RSPB mate. Making out all keepers have no interest in the natural world, and no understanding of balance.. . . and that all keepers would shoot any BOP on sight. It's just not true.

It cant be true, as many species of BOPs werent hunting to extinction or near extinction in the past were they

Lets face it a BOP is an easy target for a keeper and all this shit they'd leave one or 2 is just that shit. The only reason keepers don't eliminate all vermin like foxes etc is cos they are so hard to eradicate. The same can't be said about BOP.

 

 

 

Aye. . . . so all lurcher man are thieves as well yer? If we are generalising

[baw 4,360]

 

I suspect that the felling contractor had a HUGE oh shit moment after seeing that tree fall. I doubt very much it was a deliberate act, the estate are distancing themselves big style before the BBC hang them.

 

As for the arguments above, I`m firmly on the fence here,, can see the shoots issues, I am involved with a large commercial shoot and know the havoc Bop`s cause but still love to see them,, (Buzzards aside that is,, b*****ds !!)

So the biggest argument towards pheasant shooting is that if it disappeared the countryside as we know it would diminish. Scary thought. So far in this thread we discovered from a REAL working gamekeeper that 90% of the countries keepers have packed up leaving only 5000. That's 45,000 keepers not there. Have you noticed much difference to the countryside with there absence? I haven't. Again someone else said that a shoot he knows puts down 3500 birds and 1000 of them get taken by BOP. that's almost a third of them. A large amount I'm sure you'll agree. And yet they survive with this enormous loss. So a 'shoot' can effectively afford to lose a third of its birds and still survive..... Leave the magnificent and majestic birds alone, there's plenty of fat useless birds for everyone.

That's because instead of 6 - 10 keepers on a estate they now only have 1 or 2 working the same ground.. It's a fact, un keepered land goes to feck!!

 

It's what makes this site what it is, folk trying to argue the toss about things they simply know nothing about :-)

It's no wonder keepers want to blame everything including BOP for losses when it took 10 keepers to do the job of 1. What a strange industry it is. Wanting to kill all predatory wildlife so fat gunmen can share each others land and shoot pet birds for free. It really is a f****d up sport.

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

I suspect that the felling contractor had a HUGE oh shit moment after seeing that tree fall. I doubt very much it was a deliberate act, the estate are distancing themselves big style before the BBC hang them.

 

As for the arguments above, I`m firmly on the fence here,, can see the shoots issues, I am involved with a large commercial shoot and know the havoc Bop`s cause but still love to see them,, (Buzzards aside that is,, b*****ds !!)

So the biggest argument towards pheasant shooting is that if it disappeared the countryside as we know it would diminish. Scary thought. So far in this thread we discovered from a REAL working gamekeeper that 90% of the countries keepers have packed up leaving only 5000. That's 45,000 keepers not there. Have you noticed much difference to the countryside with there absence? I haven't. Again someone else said that a shoot he knows puts down 3500 birds and 1000 of them get taken by BOP. that's almost a third of them. A large amount I'm sure you'll agree. And yet they survive with this enormous loss. So a 'shoot' can effectively afford to lose a third of its birds and still survive..... Leave the magnificent and majestic birds alone, there's plenty of fat useless birds for everyone.

That's because instead of 6 - 10 keepers on a estate they now only have 1 or 2 working the same ground.. It's a fact, un keepered land goes to feck!!

 

It's what makes this site what it is, folk trying to argue the toss about things they simply know nothing about :-)

It's no wonder keepers want to blame everything including BOP for losses when it took 10 keepers to do the job of 1. What a strange industry it is. Wanting to kill all predatory wildlife so fat gunmen can share each others land and shoot pet birds for free. It really is a f****d up sport.

 

Your digging a bigger hole here bud. Less keepers because less birds..........lots of reasons why shoots demise and not being able to deal with BOP's are one of them....

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

Imagine The Devestation On The BOP Population If Keepers/Land Owners Where Granted Permission To Kill BsOP They Thought Was Damaging There Sport . . There Numbers Would Tumble Over Night . . I Personally Think Any Bird Of Pray Would Be Shot On Site If Laws Allowed Those Ive Mentioned A Free Hand To Manage BsOP . . Or Should I Believe They Wouldnt Persecute Anything With A Hooked Bill In There Line Off Fire Unless They Knew It Was Affecting There Shoot ?

You sound a lot like the folk at the RSPB mate. Making out all keepers have no interest in the natural world, and no understanding of balance.. . . and that all keepers would shoot any BOP on sight. It's just not true.

It cant be true, as many species of BOPs werent hunting to extinction or near extinction in the past were they

Lets face it a BOP is an easy target for a keeper and all this shit they'd leave one or 2 is just that shit. The only reason keepers don't eliminate all vermin like foxes etc is cos they are so hard to eradicate. The same can't be said about BOP.

 

Aye. . . . so all lurcher man are thieves as well yer? If we are generalising

Well aye, thought everyone knew that it might be the circles I move in but I don't know a single lurcherman who hasn't poached

[mushroom 13,268]

 

 

 

Fek it , lets all get baw , the JR Ewing of the hunting life .

if only mate. Sounds better than it is I only said I Prob made more money than him cos I thought he was a student

Didn't realise the Dole paid so much your no a muslim immigrant are ya?? :laugh:

Funny you should ask....... you got that dog its hole yet

 

BAWWAAAA na but the fuucker keeps pissing me off he'll have a big one in his feckin skull

 

Took him out to the park yesterday and he got feckin covered in chewing gum :laugh:

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

I suspect that the felling contractor had a HUGE oh shit moment after seeing that tree fall. I doubt very much it was a deliberate act, the estate are distancing themselves big style before the BBC hang them.

 

As for the arguments above, I`m firmly on the fence here,, can see the shoots issues, I am involved with a large commercial shoot and know the havoc Bop`s cause but still love to see them,, (Buzzards aside that is,, b*****ds !!)

So the biggest argument towards pheasant shooting is that if it disappeared the countryside as we know it would diminish. Scary thought. So far in this thread we discovered from a REAL working gamekeeper that 90% of the countries keepers have packed up leaving only 5000. That's 45,000 keepers not there. Have you noticed much difference to the countryside with there absence? I haven't. Again someone else said that a shoot he knows puts down 3500 birds and 1000 of them get taken by BOP. that's almost a third of them. A large amount I'm sure you'll agree. And yet they survive with this enormous loss. So a 'shoot' can effectively afford to lose a third of its birds and still survive..... Leave the magnificent and majestic birds alone, there's plenty of fat useless birds for everyone.

That's because instead of 6 - 10 keepers on a estate they now only have 1 or 2 working the same ground.. It's a fact, un keepered land goes to feck!!

 

It's what makes this site what it is, folk trying to argue the toss about things they simply know nothing about :-)

It's no wonder keepers want to blame everything including BOP for losses when it took 10 keepers to do the job of 1. What a strange industry it is. Wanting to kill all predatory wildlife so fat gunmen can share each others land and shoot pet birds for free. It really is a f****d up sport.

Your digging a bigger hole here bud. Less keepers because less birds..........lots of reasons why shoots demise and not being able to deal with BOP's are one of them....

You know me lab, I'm only killing time till I'm out a here at 1 o'clock

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

 

 

I suspect that the felling contractor had a HUGE oh shit moment after seeing that tree fall. I doubt very much it was a deliberate act, the estate are distancing themselves big style before the BBC hang them.

 

As for the arguments above, I`m firmly on the fence here,, can see the shoots issues, I am involved with a large commercial shoot and know the havoc Bop`s cause but still love to see them,, (Buzzards aside that is,, b*****ds !!)

So the biggest argument towards pheasant shooting is that if it disappeared the countryside as we know it would diminish. Scary thought. So far in this thread we discovered from a REAL working gamekeeper that 90% of the countries keepers have packed up leaving only 5000. That's 45,000 keepers not there. Have you noticed much difference to the countryside with there absence? I haven't. Again someone else said that a shoot he knows puts down 3500 birds and 1000 of them get taken by BOP. that's almost a third of them. A large amount I'm sure you'll agree. And yet they survive with this enormous loss. So a 'shoot' can effectively afford to lose a third of its birds and still survive..... Leave the magnificent and majestic birds alone, there's plenty of fat useless birds for everyone.

That's because instead of 6 - 10 keepers on a estate they now only have 1 or 2 working the same ground.. It's a fact, un keepered land goes to feck!!

 

It's what makes this site what it is, folk trying to argue the toss about things they simply know nothing about :-)

It's no wonder keepers want to blame everything including BOP for losses when it took 10 keepers to do the job of 1. What a strange industry it is. Wanting to kill all predatory wildlife so fat gunmen can share each others land and shoot pet birds for free. It really is a f****d up sport.

Your digging a bigger hole here bud. Less keepers because less birds..........lots of reasons why shoots demise and not being able to deal with BOP's are one of them....

You know me lab, I'm only killing time till I'm out a here at 1 o'clock

 

I know what your fecking doing.............

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

Fek it , lets all get baw , the JR Ewing of the hunting life .

if only mate. Sounds better than it is I only said I Prob made more money than him cos I thought he was a student

Didn't realise the Dole paid so much your no a muslim immigrant are ya?? :laugh:

Funny you should ask....... you got that dog its hole yet

BAWWAAAA na but the fuucker keeps pissing me off he'll have a big one in his feckin skull

 

Took him out to the park yesterday and he got feckin covered in chewing gum :laugh:

the dogs heads wasted mun, get it sucking ride FFs

[baw 4,360]

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