pip1968 2,490 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 bet you miss a lot we use the cover dog to push to the runner a yap lets the runners know were on exactly troter if a dog is chasing through cover without sound it might aswell be in the bush having a shit for all ye know Quote Link to post
j1985 1,983 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Paulus a lot of my bushing spots run alongside busy roads but yeh in big open spots off lead all the way!! And when I'm talking about bushing 99% of the time I'm not talking about rabbits! 1 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) land i ratch on .[/url]] Edited June 11, 2013 by troter58 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Paulus a lot of my bushing spots run alongside busy roads but yeh in big open spots off lead all the way!! And when I'm talking about bushing 99% of the time I'm not talking about rabbits! Stop pretending your dogs are capable of taking rat! Lol. 2 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 For me 'bushing' is not working rough ground. . . . the running dogs we keep and work can hunt up and find game on that kind of ground on their own. I use the cover dog to work either large areas of bramble etc, usually way too big and thick for a person to get in and push rabbits out, and where, unless the dog in the cover makes some noise, you will usually totally lose track of where the dog and quarry are, as will the dogs on the outside often. I also use mine to push out larger pieces of woodland, running a line and pushing the quarry around until it either goes to ground or makes a break across open fields. I also just quite like the sound of a dog baying. A lot of my bushing is also kind of tracking, and whilst the runners have a good nose, very little beats the hound so far, she can follow a cold line for a long way. I certainly see more now I have her. Also we quite enjoy a bit of a team effort, standing around big reed beds etc, letting the smaller dogs work it through, the nose being very handy again, to alert those standing outside of whats coming their way. Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 For me 'bushing' is not working rough ground. . . . the running dogs we keep and work can hunt up and find game on that kind of ground on their own. I use the cover dog to work either large areas of bramble etc, usually way too big and thick for a person to get in and push rabbits out, and where, unless the dog in the cover makes some noise, you will usually totally lose track of where the dog and quarry are, as will the dogs on the outside often. I also use mine to push out larger pieces of woodland, running a line and pushing the quarry around until it either goes to ground or makes a break across open fields. I also just quite like the sound of a dog baying. A lot of my bushing is also kind of tracking, and whilst the runners have a good nose, very little beats the hound so far, she can follow a cold line for a long way. I certainly see more now I have her. Also we quite enjoy a bit of a team effort, standing around big reed beds etc, letting the smaller dogs work it through, the nose being very handy again, to alert those standing outside of whats coming their way. thats at the back of my house if you like brambles come and see me i have lots Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 For me 'bushing' is not working rough ground. . . . the running dogs we keep and work can hunt up and find game on that kind of ground on their own. I use the cover dog to work either large areas of bramble etc, usually way too big and thick for a person to get in and push rabbits out, and where, unless the dog in the cover makes some noise, you will usually totally lose track of where the dog and quarry are, as will the dogs on the outside often. I also use mine to push out larger pieces of woodland, running a line and pushing the quarry around until it either goes to ground or makes a break across open fields. I also just quite like the sound of a dog baying. A lot of my bushing is also kind of tracking, and whilst the runners have a good nose, very little beats the hound so far, she can follow a cold line for a long way. I certainly see more now I have her. Also we quite enjoy a bit of a team effort, standing around big reed beds etc, letting the smaller dogs work it through, the nose being very handy again, to alert those standing outside of whats coming their way. thats at the back of my house if you like brambles come and see me i have lots Sorry mate, that wasn't aimed at you or those photos The second photo looks like it has a lot of what i'm on about. I just meant that to me there is a difference between hunting up and bushing, for example i'd use the runners to hunt up moorland etc, and wouldnt call it bushing 2 Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,132 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 My terrier will push through most cover and let's you know when she's onto something, the exitement of the lurcher on the outside,trying to work out where the bolt is coming from, normally this is through big bramble patches.. I'm not going to pretend we catch loads like this we don't... We miss loads.. But I like this type of hunting, the dogs work in a team, we do a lot better when there's another lurcher or 2 about... Oh and the terrier catches a few in the hedge bottom too.. I wouldn't want a silent dog in that heavy cover though.. 2 Quote Link to post
j1985 1,983 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Paulus a lot of my bushing spots run alongside busy roads but yeh in big open spots off lead all the way!! And when I'm talking about bushing 99% of the time I'm not talking about rabbits! Stop pretending your dogs are capable of taking rat! Lol. They do, honest lol Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 My terrier will push through most cover and let's you know when she's onto something, the exitement of the lurcher on the outside,trying to work out where the bolt is coming from, normally this is through big bramble patches.. I'm not going to pretend we catch loads like this we don't... We miss loads.. But I like this type of hunting, the dogs work in a team, we do a lot better when there's another lurcher or 2 about... Oh and the terrier catches a few in the hedge bottom too.. I wouldn't want a silent dog in that heavy cover though.. I think I would lose a silent dog at times 1 Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 i bush rhodies with my lurcher nearlly every day either for rabbits or squirrels and he marks them really well if he cant get to it he lets you know and then i have to throw logs or get in and flush it my self Quote Link to post
WILF 46,687 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 id expect to miss a lot of game in deep cover that the dog wont be able to sent? each to there own. I love posts like this, does anyone actually realise how good a dogs sense of smell is?.......it's so good that you can't even comprehend it!! This is what makes me laugh when folk say they need a smorgasboard of mutts crashing about in the bushes making enough racket to wake the dead just to find game!!......err, you don't . Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 id expect to miss a lot of game in deep cover that the dog wont be able to sent? each to there own. I love posts like this, does anyone actually realise how good a dogs sense of smell is?.......it's so good that you can't even comprehend it!! This is what makes me laugh when folk say they need a smorgasboard of mutts crashing about in the bushes making enough racket to wake the dead just to find game!!......err, you don't . No but if the cover is large . . . . it does tend to help if the dog enters it. . . . rather than you just giving it a wee kick. And certain quarry will not leave large covers unless pressed hard, preferring to just run around inside. From what I have seen anyhow . . . . . You seem to have a fair problem with folk using smaller dogs to hunt and push out cover? Quote Link to post
WILF 46,687 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 id expect to miss a lot of game in deep cover that the dog wont be able to sent? each to there own. I love posts like this, does anyone actually realise how good a dogs sense of smell is?.......it's so good that you can't even comprehend it!! This is what makes me laugh when folk say they need a smorgasboard of mutts crashing about in the bushes making enough racket to wake the dead just to find game!!......err, you don't . No but if the cover is large . . . . it does tend to help if the dog enters it. . . . rather than you just giving it a wee kick. And certain quarry will not leave large covers unless pressed hard, preferring to just run around inside. From what I have seen anyhow . . . . . You seem to have a fair problem with folk using smaller dogs to hunt and push out cover? No, I don't have a problem with it.......I have an opinion about certain things but not a problem. If you only want smoke blown up your arse then say so at the start of each post Quote Link to post
mrgjones 64 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 i farted tonite an the dogs didunt seem to mind at all so mabe thay cant smell f**k all. the mrs was nearly sick. 5 Quote Link to post
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