General lee 979 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Yeh I understand what your saying but the Americans took British breeds and altered them to what they needed teckels are just a import it seems a shame that people are using foreign dogs when so many old British breeds are being destroyed by the kc but if they are doing they're job and people are happy with them then good luck to them and it is good to see dogs that are capable of doing the job they were bred for British or foreign 1 Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 a bit of help for you all on the teckels WORKING TECKELSBrenda Humphrey- UKTSBSAs in any breed of dog, if your interest is showing;then you buy from champion show-bred parentage; that is the same for anyworking dog, you buy from good working parentage. That doesn't mean to say thata show-bred dog won't work, but why take that chance?In most European countries it is illegal to hunt deer without a trained dog with you, and as I understand it you can show a Teckel without a working certificate, but it cannot become a champion without one. The foundation stock of The UK Teckel Stud Book Society are imports from Germany, Spain, Sweden, Belgium and Iceland and, of course, their progeny.The Teckel is worked on all legal game, and is able to hunt a wide variety of animals, ranging in size from a field mouse, to tracking down wounded or dead wild boar, and deer by blood trailing. They dig and go to ground on fox and rabbit, and will flush out pheasant and tight sitting grouse, from dense thickets. They will also retrieve duck off water.A working-bred Teckel makes an ideal family pet. In temperament they are sensitive, and inclined to be self-willed and stubborn, so they require firm, but fair handling, and should never be treated roughly. Asit is the written law of the UK that you must not sell or receive a puppy underthe age of 8 weeks (I prefer a pup at the age of 10 weeks) that is when yourbasic training begins: at toilet, house, lead, sit and stay. At all times, makethe training fun. There is no hard or fast rule to discipline, as each dog isan individual, and if treated too harshly, it will never work for you. Also atthis time, the pup is subject to a starter pistol being fired at a distance ofabout 30 metres. Distance is an important factor, as the pup can be easilyfrightened. As the pup gets older the distance gets nearer, until you arefiring over the dog by the time it is 6 months old.Whatever name is on the pedigree is immaterial, butyour field name should be short and sharp such as 'Jip'. Once you've had yourdog inoculated, and it walks on a lead, your training to livestock begins; e.g. chicken, sheep, cattle and horses. All working dogs must be steady tolivestock, as a farmer wouldn't want you working his land if your dog ischasing his sheep etc.Blood trailing training can begin as early as 4 months old and can be fascinating and fun, but live-work for the Teckel starts no sooner than 8 months old. Digging, and going to ground, is a natural thing to the Teckel. If you want your dog to work with deer, then it must be married to it for one to two years depending on how much work experience it is receiving, then you can let it work on fox and rabbit etc.My three Teckels are worked on a regular basis of one week on and one week off, to deer, as Trevor my husband; (co-founder of UKTSBS) is a professional deerstalker, for Herne Woodland & Wildlife, based in Dorset. Bowe my male Teckel has earned himself a good reputation in the deer-stalking world.Mr Nick Valentine (co-founder of UKTSBS) has done 20 years of hunt service, and is Master and huntsman of his own private pack, called the Ryeford Chase, based in Hereford. He has formed the largest pack of working Teckels in the UK today and his pack can usually be seen parading atthe Houndshow, held at Stafford.For more information on working Teckels, visit the UK Teckel Stud Book Society website at: http://www.teckel-society.co.ukhunting teckelsOne of the main hunting purposes of theTeckel is the hunt under ground (Baujagd). The nameof the breed indicates what the breed was intended for: "Dachs" meaning badger and "Hund" dog. In the old days, German foresters usedTeckels to reduce the predators (foxes and badgers) of small game the Germanroyalty enjoyed to hunt (pheasants and hares). Teckels are still used to controlthe fox and badger populations in many European countries. Lately raccoon dogs(originated from Asia) and raccoons (imported from North America) are added tothe list of quarry hunted with Teckels in Europe due to lack of natural enemies.Trailing teckelsAhighly valued trait of a hunting Teckel is the ability to systematically searchan area, followed by trailing and flushing out game ("stöbern"). Stöbern is considered aninnate trait which cannot betrained.In Europe, the Teckel has been utilized in this settingmainly for roe deer and wild boar. The advantage of using a Teckel over largerhounds is that large game will not flee as swiftly and remain tighter on site.In wild boar hunting, smaller dogs are less likely to get fatally injured. Beingdescendants of the Bracken, a required trait for the hunting Teckel is beingloud on scent ("spurlaut"). This trait is tested on hares or foxes in WesternEurope. my teckel is tracking at or around the 400mtrs now on drops of blood hope this clears things up a little shay 2 Quote Link to post
Guest foxpack Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 we meet brenda and trevor at shropshire years back ,very well trained teckels,about 10 years back now and they were importing some teckels in from germany i think?? 1 Quote Link to post
Tommy pepper 222 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Got a mate in france who hunts a teckal team he goes out evry weekend and gets 7 or 8 badgers with them regular with no locators not seen them in the flesh yet only pics but he gets a lot of quarry with them Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 i have a german import to she is a darswed breed fantastic dog loving and hard working my bitch is 8 months old now and she is great very quiet in the field shocked I know but she really is very steady I worked her on rabbits to start with so she would be a little less shouty lol but again she works well her tail goes high and wags fast now when she picks up and thing even on mice lol as I use her for my pest control job (yes a pest control mouse finder and she is great at it ) they just want you to be happy with them hence why they bark so much when I go in to see her if she is in the kitchen or first thing in the morning. these are getting more and more popular and work very well with other dogs as well. I love mine she is a great hunter and friend 1 Quote Link to post
Bossie 90 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Wouldn't you (those following the thread) think that due to their size and posture a teckel wouldn't be the best bushing dog when rabbit is the chosen quarry? I can see them being a usefull member of a pack, to work thick bramble/cover/hedges etc but to really get the rabbit moving, don't no if they will be fast enough to provide enough pressure. I realise you can't get more dog in such a small size, but use is it if it's not the right dog for the job. If using one, I'd probably try to find one with the most leg as possible. I've seen some being used below ground and tracking wounded game but never as a dedicated bushing dog. Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 hi ya pal yeah she is used more for tracking work than anything else. as for using her I needed to see what she was good at and its like a very few she can turn a paw to most things which is good for me as I only need one dog at a time with me not a pack unless I am going for big game then the dogs bet bigger Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Bloke on collie curs got a teckel, he's put a GPS collar on it, looks a great bit of kit, hand set shows you where it is/heading to. Quote Link to post
pukerk 161 Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Bloke on collie curs got a teckel, he's put a GPS collar on it, looks a great bit of kit, hand set shows you where it is/heading to. Is it conn your on about If so i seen a vid or two of his teckel, seems to be a good un 1 Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Bloke on collie curs got a teckel, he's put a GPS collar on it, looks a great bit of kit, hand set shows you where it is/heading to. Is it conn your on about If so i seen a vid or two of his teckel, seems to be a good un That's the one! Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Bloke on collie curs got a teckel, he's put a GPS collar on it, looks a great bit of kit, hand set shows you where it is/heading to. Is it conn your on about If so i seen a vid or two of his teckel, seems to be a good un That's the one! Shame he got rid of it: I enjoyed his vids. Quote Link to post
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