Hancock Knockers,

[tjones3862 3,423]

ray some people don't think like you, they bye off him and it don't come into there minds what the parents have done but most of these people play at the game, and iff they catch 2 a 3 rabbits there over the moon, but there not cut out for the 50 mark 3 times a week, that's a fact, but then again the owner mite not be so they mite suit each other,,

Edited June 10, 2013 by tjones3862

[birddog 1,354]

facts are, bryn (and ray knows how highly i rate him) hasn't been used, the snipe dog (imo for me higher rated sorry ray) is retired from stud, phil doesn't churn out litter after litter, if i breed my jazz it'll probably be a one off,.................pups out of decent well bred, worked, known collie x's just aren't available all that often (and most are spoken for before they see daylight)........hancocks are

[Guest vin]

Ray you should put a post up offering Bryn for Stud.

 

He's a fine dog. . . my little Molly likes him .. If I ever wanted a litter for myself I would definately use him.

 

Same goes for Jim's Snipe.. propper working dogs.

 

why would anyone want to use an unproven and unworked Hancock stud dog is beyond me when theres such good dogs out there being worked season after season.

[Mixed Bag 603]

well said lot of people with low standards just want to catch a couple of rabbits on a sunday they think their dogs the bizz if it does that once a week lol the people who want proper grafters go for dogs from proven parents grandparents and so on right down through the line some lines of lurcher been bred for 30 40 years or more not rubbish from a collie that's not saw a sheep and a greyhound that's probably never run a real hare fools and their money are easily parted.

[Country Joe 1,411]

I think there has been to much made, of the line you get what it says in the tin from Hancock, and if you use a small type breeder who is breeding a pup for himself and selling the rest, then you don't know what your getting.

Well the pups i have seen, the half cross, the greyhound bitch was there to be seen, as well as the 3/4 cross,

The only dog that was missing was the collie stud, who would be on the farm.

Especially now with these forums, you can suss out the genuine guys especially if you have been using the forum for a length of time.

The thing about Hancock he more or less has pups for sale, where your local breeder you may have a long wait, and unfortunately in this modern culture, a wait is a no no.

[Mixed Bag 603]

and anybody going to hancock for a stud when ray has a proven worker needs their heads looked at more fool them mate

[nothernlite 18,076]

birds dog would be a cracking stud dog cant understand why is not been used yet

[tjones3862 3,423]

I don't think for 1 min snipe will be up for stud again, hes only bin to 4 bitchs at that, the main reason he,s in some pain after a mateing off a hernia hes got, the other main reason it played on my mind were the pups went i no for a fact some wud of fell on a bad home that's the law of average just on 4 mateing, then you have the ones that do no work with them from 1 week to the next 6 week and then say the pups are no good,, then it comes back to the parents, so breeding in a big way his a down hill slope in many way,s

[birddog 1,354]

I don't think for 1 min snipe will be up for stud again, hes only bin to 4 bitchs at that, the main reason he,s in some pain after a mateing off a hernia hes got, the other main reason it played on my mind were the pups went i no for a fact some wud of fell on a bad home that's the law of average just on 4 mateing, then you have the ones that do no work with them from 1 week to the next 6 week and then say the pups are no good,, then it comes back to the parents, so breeding in a big way his a down hill slope in many way,s

such a shame, and as far as i know the only time he went to a collie x it didn't take.........but just out of interest how many of his pups needed advertising ?

[tjones3862 3,423]

i not sure but DL mite of in some way but they was only 1 or 2 pups left like i said not sure. but having said that he,s lives on the far tip of Scotland not many folk wud travel up there, my biggest dispointment was not seeing snipe go to a good fen dog,,but how many fen lads want a collie, etc across there bitch

[birddog 1,354]

i not sure but DL mite of in some way but they was only 1 or 2 pups left like i said not sure. but having said that he,s lives on the far tip of Scotland not many folk wud travel up there, my biggest dispointment was not seeing snipe go to a good fen dog,,but how many fen lads want a collie, etc across there bitch

would have been interesting breeding / litter for sure, dl travelled for the stud maybe folks would travel if its what they really wanted, especially given the stamp he's thrown with the ern dog and dl smart red pup, i would imagine with his abilty and heart some of the fen lads would have taken a punt he surely has a lot to offer to a daytime bitch

[troter58 1,711]

i not sure but DL mite of in some way but they was only 1 or 2 pups left like i said not sure. but having said that he,s lives on the far tip of Scotland not many folk wud travel up there, my biggest dispointment was not seeing snipe go to a good fen dog,,but how many fen lads want a collie, etc across there bitch

one of the best dogs i owned was bred fen dog x collie grey was bred early 80s did good numbers on the lamp and could stop hare day time proper all rounder if i seen this cross again from good proven stock i would give one ago again in a heart beat this dog could go all night for you did 54 on shap fell and caught all over the country the dam was a hancock bred dog .atb

[bird 9,861]

facts are, bryn (and ray knows how highly i rate him) hasn't been used, the snipe dog (imo for me higher rated sorry ray) is retired from stud, phil doesn't churn out litter after litter, if i breed my jazz it'll probably be a one off,.................pups out of decent well bred, worked, known collie x's just aren't available all that often (and most are spoken for before they see daylight)........hancocks are

 

 

yery true on snipe, he is one hell of a dog. Ive seen snipe run lot of times ,and he always had that bit extra about him, his strike+ stamina was spot on.Bryn would+ and still does run as fast on the 1st rabbit as he does on his last, jim would say the same, many time we thought if just slowed a bit he would last that bit longer, but thats how Bryn is he ,he goes like a feckin rocket 40 odd times lol . Snipe Having that bit of saluki in the mix deff gave that extra .But as its about colliexs (hancocks) and his dogs are all pure, i just think as 1x collie x grey Bryn is a 1x that been used for 6 years, and not like the hancock studs .But as i said people pick what they like its there money, and ive gone way from colliexs now as ive tried somting differnt with a 1x gsd x grey Buck my pup. And so far very happy with him, never going to like Bryn catching rabbits,would Buck wasnt bred for that .!

[iceman001979 1,316]

If it was not for the buyers there would not be puppy farms. Like everything in life if theres a buyer theres going be a seller.

[lurchers4life 103]

 

ray some people don't think like you, they bye off him and it don't come into there minds what the parents have done but most of these people play at the game, and iff they catch 2 a 3 rabbits there over the moon, but there not cut out for the 50 mark 3 times a week, that's a fact, but then again the owner mite not be so they mite suit each other,,[/quote

 

That's not a fact atall mate

 

Everyone Slaggs Hancock of? Why?

There's pups being bred everywhere where you don't know what your getting unless your swing the pereants work night after night or day after day and you ain't gonna see that if your buying from anyone for one the bitch got a litter of pups and ain't going to be worked and you ain't gonna stay the week to watch the stud catch 50 rabbits three times a week so stop talking rubbish coz that's all it is!

There's pups being bred everywhere by chavs with ther bulls and salukis where there dogs don't see grass from one month to the next boys like that are everywhere I've met them all so at the end of the day weather Hancock is a peddler or not he don't lie to sell you a pup like most so called lurcher men today you get a ingredients of Hancock the same as every other pup you just gotta make the cake!