BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. I can't think of anything less appealing than attempting to rear and train two lurcher pups whether out of the same litter or not...greyhound men may well rear whole litters together...but what's expected of them??? Not a lot really...just have to run as fast as they can after a mechanical hare...they don'y need recall, they don't teach 'em to sit, stay, lie down...or to jump, or to retrieve, they ain't needing to be stock/ferret broken and will never see rivers, ditches, hedges, drains and the like they'll never encounter a purse net or a longnet or a lamp or a terrier either...??? Anyone (myself included) who has had greyhounds from training establishments will tell you the same if they are being honest...they know very little and ain't field savvy in the slightest...so, and this is just my opinion, if you are happy to go along with your above analogy your expectations must be pretty low and that will show and reflect in the end result... I'm working with a youngster at the minute...it's hard work...and I can't even begin to imagine what it'd be like to have two of him here... Good luck... 8 Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 You've got to be some kind of dogman with all the time in the world to raise and train 2 pups seperatley and properly,they'll both be totally different so there progress won't be the same I learnt the hard way. Just my opinion. Quote Link to post
Whiskey 28 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Yes mate just let them be pups start with a bit off recall sit stay lay little and offten bro stedy away atb sound a handy cross any pics Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,480 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. I can't think of anything less appealing than attempting to rear and train two lurcher pups whether out of the same litter or not...greyhound men may well rear whole litters together...but what's expected of them??? Not a lot really...just have to run as fast as they can after a mechanical hare...they don'y need recall, they don't teach 'em to sit, stay, lie down...or to jump, or to retrieve, they ain't needing to be stock/ferret broken and will never see rivers, ditches, hedges, drains and the like they'll never encounter a purse net or a longnet or a lamp or a terrier either...??? Anyone (myself included) who has had greyhounds from training establishments will tell you the same if they are being honest...they know very little and ain't field savvy in the slightest...so, and this is just my opinion, if you are happy to go along with your above analogy your expectations must be pretty low and that will show and reflect in the end result... I'm working with a youngster at the minute...it's hard work...and I can't even begin to imagine what it'd be like to have two of him here... Good luck... If you cant,wont or just dont have the desire to rear more than one pup thats fine but many people do have the ability. If you want to teach the dog little tricks like sit and stay you just spend a short time each day with each dog.Easy. I suppose its what you are used to really. By the way the biggest lesson a Greyhound will ever learn is the same one has any running dog and that is running. The dog has to learn to stretch and gallop and use itself from an early age.It isnt necessary to have two pups the same as it isnt necessary to have one. 1 Quote Link to post
yogisam 0 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 yes ive got a load of pics, how do I upload em? Quote Link to post
Whiskey 28 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Sit stay lay ant no little trick I like my dogs obedient running natural takes no lerning traing two dogs is a nightmare take them one at a time don't worry about them chasing or hunting till next year great thing come to he who waits you get out with local lads we can right pages ya can read all the book but get out with the lads is my advice Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. I can't think of anything less appealing than attempting to rear and train two lurcher pups whether out of the same litter or not...greyhound men may well rear whole litters together...but what's expected of them??? Not a lot really...just have to run as fast as they can after a mechanical hare...they don'y need recall, they don't teach 'em to sit, stay, lie down...or to jump, or to retrieve, they ain't needing to be stock/ferret broken and will never see rivers, ditches, hedges, drains and the like they'll never encounter a purse net or a longnet or a lamp or a terrier either...??? Anyone (myself included) who has had greyhounds from training establishments will tell you the same if they are being honest...they know very little and ain't field savvy in the slightest...so, and this is just my opinion, if you are happy to go along with your above analogy your expectations must be pretty low and that will show and reflect in the end result... I'm working with a youngster at the minute...it's hard work...and I can't even begin to imagine what it'd be like to have two of him here... Good luck... If you cant,wont or just dont have the desire to rear more than one pup thats fine but many people do have the ability. If you want to teach the dog little tricks like sit and stay you just spend a short time each day with each dog.Easy. I suppose its what you are used to really. By the way the biggest lesson a Greyhound will ever learn is the same one has any running dog and that is running. The dog has to learn to stretch and gallop and use itself from an early age.It isnt necessary to have two pups the same as it isnt necessary to have one. Quote Link to post
Whiskey 28 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Sit stay lay ant no little trick I like my dogs obedient running natural takes no lerning traing two dogs is a nightmare take them one at a time don't worry about them chasing or hunting till next year great thing come to he who waits you get out with local lads we can right pages ya can read all the book but get out with the lads is my advice Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. I can't think of anything less appealing than attempting to rear and train two lurcher pups whether out of the same litter or not...greyhound men may well rear whole litters together...but what's expected of them??? Not a lot really...just have to run as fast as they can after a mechanical hare...they don'y need recall, they don't teach 'em to sit, stay, lie down...or to jump, or to retrieve, they ain't needing to be stock/ferret broken and will never see rivers, ditches, hedges, drains and the like they'll never encounter a purse net or a longnet or a lamp or a terrier either...??? Anyone (myself included) who has had greyhounds from training establishments will tell you the same if they are being honest...they know very little and ain't field savvy in the slightest...so, and this is just my opinion, if you are happy to go along with your above analogy your expectations must be pretty low and that will show and reflect in the end result... I'm working with a youngster at the minute...it's hard work...and I can't even begin to imagine what it'd be like to have two of him here... Good luck... If you cant,wont or just dont have the desire to rear more than one pup thats fine but many people do have the ability. If you want to teach the dog little tricks like sit and stay you just spend a short time each day with each dog.Easy. I suppose its what you are used to really. By the way the biggest lesson a Greyhound will ever learn is the same one has any running dog and that is running. The dog has to learn to stretch and gallop and use itself from an early age.It isnt necessary to have two pups the same as it isnt necessary to have one. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. ... and some get badly damaged and can never do any good. There's always two sides to every argument. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. I can't think of anything less appealing than attempting to rear and train two lurcher pups whether out of the same litter or not...greyhound men may well rear whole litters together...but what's expected of them??? Not a lot really...just have to run as fast as they can after a mechanical hare...they don'y need recall, they don't teach 'em to sit, stay, lie down...or to jump, or to retrieve, they ain't needing to be stock/ferret broken and will never see rivers, ditches, hedges, drains and the like they'll never encounter a purse net or a longnet or a lamp or a terrier either...??? Anyone (myself included) who has had greyhounds from training establishments will tell you the same if they are being honest...they know very little and ain't field savvy in the slightest...so, and this is just my opinion, if you are happy to go along with your above analogy your expectations must be pretty low and that will show and reflect in the end result... I'm working with a youngster at the minute...it's hard work...and I can't even begin to imagine what it'd be like to have two of him here... Good luck... Have to agree totally with the above, I have reared a few pups, and its not easy, i have a 12 wk old pup here at the moment, and he is a handful, you are obviously a novice at the game, i don't know who advised you to bring on two pups, not saying it cant be done, but I wouldn't. it takes a lot of work and time, and you will have to double it. anyway wish you well with them. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 You've got to be some kind of dogman with all the time in the world to raise and train 2 pups seperatley and properly,they'll both be totally different so there progress won't be the same I learnt the hard way. Just my opinion. Plus you need time and more time, and the desire and energy to give your attention completely to two pups. One may respond better to a different approach. One may be pushy, dominating the other one all the time. Two pups of this age should be fed together, or at least in sight of each other: I train mine to respect the other dog's food bowl: they all eat together as adults, and no one steals anyone else's food, but as pups, all they want to do is get their heads stuck in a bowl ...any bowl. Do you know enough to assess whether each pup is getting the right amount of food? Plus, it is human nature to gravitate more towards the pup that is the most rewarding: if they both respond equally, then you have to be very savvy to share out your attention equally, but there is no 'equal' in the dog world: one pup will eventually become boss of the other one, even if it is hardly noticeable to you. Will you really want to spend more time on the pup that seems to be slower in coming on? Again, human nature dictates that you will respond better to the pup that is the most forward, leaving the slower pup even further behind. Yes, two pups together are great company for each other when you're not around, but you'll have to take them out separately at some stage, for training, working etc: the pup left home alone may well kick up big time. Do you have neighbours? Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 thanks, yeah im not going to take them out together, or feed them together etc, helps not make them dependant on eachother Feed them both at the same time! Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 You've got to be some kind of dogman with all the time in the world to raise and train 2 pups seperatley and properly,they'll both be totally different so there progress won't be the same I learnt the hard way. Just my opinion. Plus you need time and more time, and the desire and energy to give your attention completely to two pups. One may respond better to a different approach. One may be pushy, dominating the other one all the time. Two pups of this age should be fed together, or at least in sight of each other: I train mine to respect the other dog's food bowl: they all eat together as adults, and no one steals anyone else's food, but as pups, all they want to do is get their heads stuck in a bowl ...any bowl. Do you know enough to assess whether each pup is getting the right amount of food? Plus, it is human nature to gravitate more towards the pup that is the most rewarding: if they both respond equally, then you have to be very savvy to share out your attention equally, but there is no 'equal' in the dog world: one pup will eventually become boss of the other one, even if it is hardly noticeable to you. Will you really want to spend more time on the pup that seems to be slower in coming on? Again, human nature dictates that you will respond better to the pup that is the most forward, leaving the slower pup even further behind. Yes, two pups together are great company for each other when you're not around, but you'll have to take them out separately at some stage, for training, working etc: the pup left home alone may well kick up big time. Do you have neighbours? All mine are over 2 now and working well but I took on a couple of waifs and strays along the way of my pups progress which made things very hard and totally time consuming.All totally different dogs in regards to strengths and weaknesses but now I'm through all that I wouldn't choose to do it again!!! Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Why would someone who hasnt got a clue try to start off with two pups??? I might sound harsh but sell or give away one of them and concentrate on the one you have left. It will be a lot easier all round. Good luck. Pernod 2 pups reared together do better ..fact I agree. Pups together have always got someone to play with and learn to gallop. Greyhound rearers rear whole litters together.The competition toughens them up. I can't think of anything less appealing than attempting to rear and train two lurcher pups whether out of the same litter or not...greyhound men may well rear whole litters together...but what's expected of them??? Not a lot really...just have to run as fast as they can after a mechanical hare...they don'y need recall, they don't teach 'em to sit, stay, lie down...or to jump, or to retrieve, they ain't needing to be stock/ferret broken and will never see rivers, ditches, hedges, drains and the like they'll never encounter a purse net or a longnet or a lamp or a terrier either...??? Anyone (myself included) who has had greyhounds from training establishments will tell you the same if they are being honest...they know very little and ain't field savvy in the slightest...so, and this is just my opinion, if you are happy to go along with your above analogy your expectations must be pretty low and that will show and reflect in the end result... I'm working with a youngster at the minute...it's hard work...and I can't even begin to imagine what it'd be like to have two of him here... Good luck... If you cant,wont or just dont have the desire to rear more than one pup thats fine but many people do have the ability. If you want to teach the dog little tricks like sit and stay you just spend a short time each day with each dog.Easy. I suppose its what you are used to really. By the way the biggest lesson a Greyhound will ever learn is the same one has any running dog and that is running. The dog has to learn to stretch and gallop and use itself from an early age.It isnt necessary to have two pups the same as it isnt necessary to have one. When I saw this lad's post and read looking for advice in teaching his pups instinct, my first instinct was to ignore it and read something else...wish I had now...'cause he's obviously getting great advice from you. I'll just stick to teaching my single pup 'little tricks' like sit and stay...sums it up well that does... 2 Quote Link to post
salclalin 240 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Sit,Stay.Etc little tricks. Essential part of a Lurchers Job i'd say.Called Tricks by people unable to teach a Dog Basic commands 2 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to bring two pup's up together or even think it's better to do it that way.. ..a pup brought up on it's own will think for itself more and learn new task's all by itself..it will have nothing to pick bad habbit's up from..it will bond with you better and in return make it easier to train..and when it is old enough to get out in the field hunting you will have one good dog instead of two half decent one's.. 4 Quote Link to post
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