jam1e 12 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hi folks, Just a quick question really regarding the c.o.a.l. How does the .22 Hornet like the rounds. Touching the lands and grooves??, a thou off touching ?? I thought all rounds like to be as close to the lands and grooves as possible but it turned out my .204 Ruger prefers quite a jump to the lands/grooves?? Some advice would be appreciated Quote Link to post
Lewdan 17 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hi mate, if you are shooting using a mag then you will be governed by the max length that will fit in it ( unless you single load ) my mate uses a CZ and max length is about 1.745" I use a ruger with the rotary mag, I can load to 1.8" for this. I think in both cases the bullet is at least 20thou off lands. Dont think it wise to put too close to lands because it may over pressure this little case. anyway cracking calibre ,have fun. LD Quote Link to post
jam1e 12 Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hi mate, if you are shooting using a mag then you will be governed by the max length that will fit in it ( unless you single load ) my mate uses a CZ and max length is about 1.745" I use a ruger with the rotary mag, I can load to 1.8" for this. I think in both cases the bullet is at least 20thou off lands. Dont think it wise to put too close to lands because it may over pressure this little case. anyway cracking calibre ,have fun. LD Cheers LD! Could you suggest a site that's dedicated to the .22 Hornet or has a lot more info on using it and reloading for it? Can you tell me what your most accurate load is including what bullet is used?? cheers Jamie Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hodgdon reloading data centre has lots of hornet loads, I found (as I suspect yours will) that the bullet seating depth made little impact on accuracy, so I just stuck with the stated col in the data, far more important was flaring the case neck and crimping these had a profound effect on it, making the difference between an inch group, or a touching cloverleaf group @ 100 yards. Quote Link to post
jam1e 12 Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hodgdon reloading data centre has lots of hornet loads, I found (as I suspect yours will) that the bullet seating depth made little impact on accuracy, so I just stuck with the stated col in the data, far more important was flaring the case neck and crimping these had a profound effect on it, making the difference between an inch group, or a touching cloverleaf group @ 100 yards. Thanks CC,much appreciated. What would you say is "your" most accurate round? As in powder, load, bullet, and bullet weight and type? I appreciate a lot of the time the most accurate load will be "gun specific", but i'm just after a starting point?? Cheers Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I found that a Sierra 45 gn varminter under 10.3 grains of h110 with a rem small benchrest primer seated at the specified col in the loading data, flared case neck and crimped with a moderate pressure, gave around a .3" group, I could acheive a similar group with 35 grain vmax under 12.3 grains of h110, I never got round to trying lil'gun but if you can get hold of some try it you really cant get enough of this powder in a hornet case to be dangerous (dont try obviously) the pressures are very low with lil'gun, h110 is quite a hot load powder, Quote Link to post
Lewdan 17 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 As you say it is a little subjective because each rifle is different, but in my ruger I am in agreement with C.C the 45 gn soft point Sierra bullets are very good, I use CCI small rifle primers, and load the case with 12.7 / 12.8 gn of Lil-Gun, good accuracy and stopping power. The most accurate load in my rifle believe it or not are the 50Grain sierra varminter blitz bullets ( not blitzkings ), I load them with 12.6 grain of Lil gun and they are spot on, Sub 1" group @ 100 yds no prob (and that's with my old eyes), but my rifle is 1:14 barrel twist so can stabalise the 50grainer . Blitzkings and vmax are good but why pay the extra, after all dead is dead.. Hope this helps. LD Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I agree vmax are good but bloody expensive, on the subject of Sierra blitz (not blitzking) I find the 80gn brilliant in my .243, 3400fps under 45gns of h414, stop foxes like an express train hitting them, and drop roe and Chinese water deer on the spot, without too much meat damage which is interesting as they are meant to be a varmint bullet, but I reckon the jacket must be a lot stronger than the blitzking, deffo worth a try for anyone wanting to load for the .243 and a sensible price too. Quote Link to post
jam1e 12 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Thanks both CC and Lewdan, much appreciated. But my new .22 Hornet plans may be already over.... I just can't get hold of any powder in the latest Lee reloading data book, let alone lil gun or H110! Anybody who knows where any is for sale please let me know!!..... It's such a pi**er as half a pound would last me an age!! Quote Link to post
Lewdan 17 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I agree vmax are good but bloody expensive, on the subject of Sierra blitz (not blitzking) I find the 80gn brilliant in my .243, 3400fps under 45gns of h414, stop foxes like an express train hitting them, and drop roe and Chinese water deer on the spot, without too much meat damage which is interesting as they are meant to be a varmint bullet, but I reckon the jacket must be a lot stronger than the blitzking, deffo worth a try for anyone wanting to load for the .243 and a sensible price too. Yes, I also use the 50 grainers in my .223, they go like S*** and are accurate enough for fox 200yds + , I don't load them too hot 25Gn of vit 133 I think doing about the same as your 243 , 3400ft/sec had no runners yet LD Quote Link to post
Lewdan 17 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Thanks both CC and Lewdan, much appreciated. But my new .22 Hornet plans may be already over.... I just can't get hold of any powder in the latest Lee reloading data book, let alone lil gun or H110! Anybody who knows where any is for sale please let me know!!..... It's such a pi**er as half a pound would last me an age!! Had my last tub of Lil-gun from sportsman gun centre ( Newport ) think they have a few outlets about the place-- google them----or even Lil -gun powder distributers. LD Quote Link to post
jam1e 12 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Thanks both CC and Lewdan, much appreciated. But my new .22 Hornet plans may be already over.... I just can't get hold of any powder in the latest Lee reloading data book, let alone lil gun or H110! Anybody who knows where any is for sale please let me know!!..... It's such a pi**er as half a pound would last me an age!! Had my last tub of Lil-gun from sportsman gun centre ( Newport ) think they have a few outlets about the place-- google them----or even Lil -gun powder distributers. LD Spooky you should say that LD. I called a local-ish rfd to me, mainly about the price of a new .22 Hornet. Not only do they have a CZ 527 in .22 Hornet, (used) but have, (or did have ) 2 tubs of "Lil-gun". Which i snapped up instantly!! I'd prefer a new rifle, but i'll have a good nose at this used one. Other than a really sloppy bolt and obvious signs of rust i'm not sure what to look for?? Blueing worn off maybe? Action loose in the stock?? No idea how to check the condition of the bore though??? Any other suggestions on signs of wear would be appreciated...... Edited June 10, 2013 by jam1e Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 If it has not been mistreated the bore will be fine, check the crown, and shine a light up and have a check for pitting,my advice if its in reasonable nick buy it,oh and if its screw cut, screw a moderator on and look up the bore and check for proper alignment, good luck mate, he who hesitates is lost Quote Link to post
jam1e 12 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 If it has not been mistreated the bore will be fine, check the crown, and shine a light up and have a check for pitting,my advice if its in reasonable nick buy it,oh and if its screw cut, screw a moderator on and look up the bore and check for proper alignment, good luck mate, he who hesitates is lost Cheers CC! Especially like the mod trick. Quote Link to post
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