baw 4,360 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Paulus is spot on. What gets me is its ok for us to go over and invade these countries, force our democratic ways on them, make them dependent on us, take the oil etc, etc. that's all ok, we just read about it or scratch our heads watching it on the news. As long as its on the other side of the world, hey ho....... Even when these guys fight back, which the Taliban, extremists etc are, merely fighting back, we still think it ok but when they do it over here then its a different matter. All of a sudden it's a big Muslim conspiracy to take over our country. How dare they!!! Ok for us but not them. It's us that brought this war to them, who can blame them fighting back any way they can? To blame all Muslims for a few idiots is really stupid. The Muslims are here to stay and if you want to blame anyone, its the governments fault. If you think the governments gonna start throwing them out cos some nutter killed someone on our streets, you really are deluded. The Taliban are mearley fighting back ffs They mass produce Heroin and ship it to europe to destroy our youth. They are oppressive of women. They dont let little girls or women get an education You cant play music ect ect Since the western forces have been in and control the largest parts of Afghanistan why has Heroin production and export tripled / The rest of your post I agree with but this is Taliban and thier warped interpretation of Islam . I am educating my Daughter as I did with the others also but get slagged on here for doing it some what shoots the argument in the foot doesnt it some of you people live in cloud cuckoo land. DB im still waiting on your reply to the following. If a few thousand white westerners were to go to Iran,Iraq,Afghan,Pakistan,Malaysia spouting Extreem Christian shite, spitting and barracking their soldiers. Saying Behead all Muslims they are infidels. Butchering a soldier on their streets in the name of Christianity ect ect What would happen to them ? So what's your point max? The British public are shitebags? Our government is useless? I don't get your argument mate Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Paulus is spot on. What gets me is its ok for us to go over and invade these countries, force our democratic ways on them, make them dependent on us, take the oil etc, etc. that's all ok, we just read about it or scratch our heads watching it on the news. As long as its on the other side of the world, hey ho....... Even when these guys fight back, which the Taliban, extremists etc are, merely fighting back, we still think it ok but when they do it over here then its a different matter. All of a sudden it's a big Muslim conspiracy to take over our country. How dare they!!! Ok for us but not them. It's us that brought this war to them, who can blame them fighting back any way they can? To blame all Muslims for a few idiots is really stupid. The Muslims are here to stay and if you want to blame anyone, its the governments fault. If you think the governments gonna start throwing them out cos some nutter killed someone on our streets, you really are deluded. The Taliban are mearley fighting back ffs They mass produce Heroin and ship it to europe to destroy our youth. They are oppressive of women. They dont let little girls or women get an education You cant play music ect ect Since the western forces have been in and control the largest parts of Afghanistan why has Heroin production and export tripled / The rest of your post I agree with but this is Taliban and thier warped interpretation of Islam . I am educating my Daughter as I did with the others also but get slagged on here for doing it some what shoots the argument in the foot doesnt it some of you people live in cloud cuckoo land. DB im still waiting on your reply to the following. If a few thousand white westerners were to go to Iran,Iraq,Afghan,Pakistan,Malaysia spouting Extreem Christian shite, spitting and barracking their soldiers. Saying Behead all Muslims they are infidels. Butchering a soldier on their streets in the name of Christianity ect ect What would happen to them ? I know one thing for sure, if such a thing was to actually happen in say Iran I doubt it would ever occur a second time, of that I am certain. Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I just understand where they are coming fromYou understand where Islamic terrorists are coming from ....Whats this another one of your " wind ups " ? Aye I do, don't you? Do you think they woke up one morning, got a big map out, eyes closed, pin in hand....... Ohh look, its landed on a wee island called Britain, c'mon we will terrorist it for the fun of it. Give yourself a shake man. I hate them as much as you but atleast ill admit I understand there plight. I Dont think you get it. Extreemists want Extreem Islam to rule the world. And i believe once there are more or as many Muslims as us the extreemists will whip up support by using violence and intimidation and best part of moderates will follow like sheep. Our European and Western goverments need to stop all Muslim Immigration and bring in a 2 child policy for all including non muslims. This way they cant out breed us in our lands. Its fooking common sense. extermists on both ends of the scales are simply in such a small minority that whatever they do they will not change the way the world is , end of story, there will be no Islamifiaction of the Uk or the world, there are issues that need sorting immigration wise for sure no one can argue that,,,,, Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I just understand where they are coming fromYou understand where Islamic terrorists are coming from ....Whats this another one of your " wind ups " ?Aye I do, don't you? Do you think they woke up one morning, got a big map out, eyes closed, pin in hand....... Ohh look, its landed on a wee island called Britain, c'mon we will terrorist it for the fun of it. Give yourself a shake man. I hate them as much as you but atleast ill admit I understand there plight. I Dont think you get it. Extreemists want Extreem Islam to rule the world. And i believe once there are more or as many Muslims as us the extreemists will whip up support by using violence and intimidation and best part of moderates will follow like sheep. Our European and Western goverments need to stop all Muslim Immigration and bring in a 2 child policy for all including non muslims. This way they cant out breed us in our lands. Its fooking common sense. It's f***ing paranoia that's what it is thank f**k I don't live in constant fear, it must be hellish Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I just understand where they are coming fromYou understand where Islamic terrorists are coming from ....Whats this another one of your " wind ups " ? Aye I do, don't you? Do you think they woke up one morning, got a big map out, eyes closed, pin in hand....... Ohh look, its landed on a wee island called Britain, c'mon we will terrorist it for the fun of it. Give yourself a shake man. I hate them as much as you but atleast ill admit I understand there plight. If that was true surely you'd know that the main issue the Muslims have with the West is our constant backing of Israel since WW2, no matter how many UN resolutions they break.. The US constantly vetoes any attempt at the UN to get the Israelis to play by the rules. That's why they started their terror attacks on the US and its interests abroad, it's got very little to do with sending armies here and there because apart from the issue of Israel all the different Muslim countries and factions of Islam are often at odds with each other.. Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I do know that malt, I heard it from a corner shopkeeper I was friendly with some years ago. That isn't the only reason though, our interference plays a large part in it. Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nail on the head Malt. This Islamic terrorist threat essentially comes down to the state of Israel............ but the story goes back further than that and further than that. It's so old it's all been forgotten about it time. People don't always get on and all sorts of shit happens as a consiquence, it's just life. It's interesting from a historical point but in terms of foreign policy and national security I really don't give a shit. We did this, they did that...................... here's the bottom line, threaten us with violence with whatever justification and we'll deal with it in a manor we are very familiar with and with a tool that is very well honed for the job. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Paulus is spot on. What gets me is its ok for us to go over and invade these countries, force our democratic ways on them, make them dependent on us, take the oil etc, etc. that's all ok, we just read about it or scratch our heads watching it on the news. As long as its on the other side of the world, hey ho....... Even when these guys fight back, which the Taliban, extremists etc are, merely fighting back, we still think it ok but when they do it over here then its a different matter. All of a sudden it's a big Muslim conspiracy to take over our country. How dare they!!! Ok for us but not them. It's us that brought this war to them, who can blame them fighting back any way they can? To blame all Muslims for a few idiots is really stupid. The Muslims are here to stay and if you want to blame anyone, its the governments fault. If you think the governments gonna start throwing them out cos some nutter killed someone on our streets, you really are deluded. The Taliban are mearley fighting back ffs They mass produce Heroin and ship it to europe to destroy our youth. They are oppressive of women. They dont let little girls or women get an education You cant play music ect ect Since the western forces have been in and control the largest parts of Afghanistan why has Heroin production and export tripled / The rest of your post I agree with but this is Taliban and thier warped interpretation of Islam . I am educating my Daughter as I did with the others also but get slagged on here for doing it some what shoots the argument in the foot doesnt it some of you people live in cloud cuckoo land. DB im still waiting on your reply to the following. If a few thousand white westerners were to go to Iran,Iraq,Afghan,Pakistan,Malaysia spouting Extreem Christian shite, spitting and barracking their soldiers. Saying Behead all Muslims they are infidels. Butchering a soldier on their streets in the name of Christianity ect ect What would happen to them ? I know one thing for sure, if such a thing was to actually happen in say Iran I doubt it would ever occur a second time, of that I am certain. you are spot on thier Arctic. also Maxhardcore if you read back I did answer your question as for Christian soldiers butchering in the middle east it started with the crusades you know when Richard the first was Thrown in prison at the request of his brother Prince John and Richard was rerleased at the insistance of a Muslim Salaudin Ayabi better known a Saladin in fact there is a village down south Abbass named after the emissary that Salauhdin Ayubi sent to the King of France. also see how many Muslims were decorated fighting for the British Empire and the Allies in the world wars, Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nail on the head Malt. This Islamic terrorist threat essentially comes down to the state of Israel............ but the story goes back further than that and further than that. It's so old it's all been forgotten about it time. People don't always get on and all sorts of shit happens as a consiquence, it's just life. It's interesting from a historical point but in terms of foreign policy and national security I really don't give a shit. We did this, they did that...................... here's the bottom line, threaten us with violence with whatever justification and we'll deal with it in a manor we are very familiar with and with a tool that is very well honed for the job. The bottom line you talk about also applies to Muslims being threatened in thier own lands or is it double standards dont do as I do but do as I say Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nail on the head Malt. This Islamic terrorist threat essentially comes down to the state of Israel............ but the story goes back further than that and further than that. It's so old it's all been forgotten about it time. People don't always get on and all sorts of shit happens as a consiquence, it's just life. It's interesting from a historical point but in terms of foreign policy and national security I really don't give a shit. We did this, they did that...................... here's the bottom line, threaten us with violence with whatever justification and we'll deal with it in a manor we are very familiar with and with a tool that is very well honed for the job. The bottom line you talk about also applies to Muslims being threatened in thier own lands or is it double standards dont do as I do but do as I sayIf they'd have stuck to targeting the Isrealis instead of flying planes into buildings full of innocent people we wouldn't be in any Muslim countries. Difference is Mossad and the Israelis don't operate with the same restraint that we do, if those planes would have been flown at targets in Israel instead of the US you could bet your last quid there would have been a wave of assassinations like the world has never seen. They wouldn't have jumped through the hoops that the US and its allies had to to legalise and legitimise the actions that followed.. Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nail on the head Malt. This Islamic terrorist threat essentially comes down to the state of Israel............ but the story goes back further than that and further than that. It's so old it's all been forgotten about it time. People don't always get on and all sorts of shit happens as a consiquence, it's just life. It's interesting from a historical point but in terms of foreign policy and national security I really don't give a shit. We did this, they did that...................... here's the bottom line, threaten us with violence with whatever justification and we'll deal with it in a manor we are very familiar with and with a tool that is very well honed for the job. The bottom line you talk about also applies to Muslims being threatened in thier own lands or is it double standards dont do as I do but do as I say To be frank, I don't really care about other nations, just my own. Double standards or not......... But isn't that kinda how war works? Two groups dissagree on who's wrong and end up fighting? It's just life.............. like i said, bottom line, whether we are in the wrong or not, threats will be dealt with swiftly. Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nail on the head Malt. This Islamic terrorist threat essentially comes down to the state of Israel............ but the story goes back further than that and further than that. It's so old it's all been forgotten about it time. People don't always get on and all sorts of shit happens as a consiquence, it's just life. It's interesting from a historical point but in terms of foreign policy and national security I really don't give a shit. We did this, they did that...................... here's the bottom line, threaten us with violence with whatever justification and we'll deal with it in a manor we are very familiar with and with a tool that is very well honed for the job. The bottom line you talk about also applies to Muslims being threatened in thier own lands or is it double standards dont do as I do but do as I say To be frank, I don't really care about other nations, just my own. Double standards or not......... But isn't that kinda how war works? Two groups dissagree on who's wrong and end up fighting? It's just life.............. like i said, bottom line, whether we are in the wrong or not, threats will be dealt with swiftly. The same applies from the Muslim stand point also like the threats to Iran coming from various world policemen especially Isreal Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 honest to f**k Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nail on the head Malt. This Islamic terrorist threat essentially comes down to the state of Israel............ but the story goes back further than that and further than that. It's so old it's all been forgotten about it time. People don't always get on and all sorts of shit happens as a consiquence, it's just life. It's interesting from a historical point but in terms of foreign policy and national security I really don't give a shit. We did this, they did that...................... here's the bottom line, threaten us with violence with whatever justification and we'll deal with it in a manor we are very familiar with and with a tool that is very well honed for the job.The bottom line you talk about also applies to Muslims being threatened in thier own lands or is it double standards dont do as I do but do as I sayIf they'd have stuck to targeting the Isrealis instead of flying planes into buildings full of innocent people we wouldn't be in any Muslim countries. Difference is Mossad and the Israelis don't operate with the same restraint that we do, if those planes would have been flown at targets in Israel instead of the US you could bet your last quid there would have been a wave of assassinations like the world has never seen. They wouldn't have jumped through the hoops that the US and its allies had to to legalise and legitimise the actions that followed.. You are condoning Mossad and criticising Muslim actions what a load of bollocks Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Fucksake, we are jumping from extremists like the Taliban to normal Muslims now, hard keeping up with you gnash. Majority of Muslims are like us, just want peace. Look at desertbread, sounds a sensible, decent bloke, came on here nailed his colours to the mast and is now THL's spokesman and sympathizer for every Muslim nutjob. The mind boggles on here. I dont care if he,s the nicest man in the world i still dont want him here.....and thats the whole problem we are so controlled and dictated to that we are now willing to compromise and say " well ok i dont mind this muslim "......................." but i dont like that one "...............f**k the lot of them i dont know them and i dont want to know them. Its because of thia lazy " lets be accomodating and be everyones friend " attitude that has got us being dictated to by people out to kill us..............in our own f****n country !!..................Normal Muslims he says ....people who think,act and hold completely different values to you and me you mean ? As for your " we are Scots we,ve got balls up here " .............thats too silly to even have a conversation about even your football views are more sensible than that !! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
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