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See all this pish about Muslims not giving woman equal rights, you'd think they had equal rights here. If it wasn't for us needing them to work during the war and them refusing to go back to the kitchens after it, they'd be still treated as second class citizens. You'd think we were made of chocolate compared to Muslims.

. US. Like you personaly or your ancestors lol woman fought for there own rights in this country. The munition workers were every bit a valuble as any man in uniform. The suffererjets were A terror group on there own. Read their history. Woman Have played a valuble part in every war and peace time crisis WE gave them FOOK ALL THEY FOUGHT FOR AND WON IT
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Yes you live here but you want to live here under your rules ... You know that your daughter won't get an education in that shit hole Iran that's why you have brought her here so you can use this coun

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DB If overnight every other religion in the world vanished apart from Islam, do you think there would be world peace? I have this idea that Muslims would just spend more time killing other Muslims. Sunni against shi`a, one faction against another etc.etc. On the other hand if the Muslim religion vanished overnight who would be left fighting who in the world :hmm:

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desertbred, something I find annoying is how you flippantly dismiss notions of inequality to women in Iran and by doing so you insult these women. Iran does allow women to be educated, but they are restricted on what they can learn at university, they are restricted in number for other courses and they work in segregated conditions, which I doubt is for the women's benefit...

 

I won't go in to any other detail about how the Koran represents women as you must know it, so why deny it? Also what do you think the Koran says about gays and Jews?

 

This isn't personal, you sound a lot more reasonable than most people questioning you. I despise the religion not the people, like a mental illness I would understand someone is delusional and not able to think properly if they had a brain tumor and can be forgiven when they are cured.

In Iran our women all do national service they are milatary trained and allowed to fight on the front line to defend our country. My Aunties My wife her sisters my dauughters and all my female cousins are educated and work as Doctors, Engineers, Journalists, Teachers, Professional soldiers etc so how are they not educated if by educated you mean getting pregnant at 14 working in jobs that dont even pay minimum wage treated as objects as appears here then you have a lot to learn you dont know what life entails only what you read in books or see in documentaries incedently most news papers and media are controlled by who so its obvious where the biased viewpoint comes from as for Gays its the west that permits gay marriage which in itself would be nice to see a poll on here what westeners think of gay marriage I asked you if you want to continue go to PM you seem intent on monopolising the forum to take sniper shots at islam or me or Iran your arguments and points do not bear scrutiny

 

for someone thats a follower of islam you dont seem to know the quran that well you say women should be respected your contradicting your holy book chapter4 verse34

 

You appear to think you know how to read the Qran and understand its meanings you are the one who is deluded , in arabic there are at least 4 different meanings for every Arabic word there are over 40 different translations of the Qran into English some such as Marmaduke PIckthall have a an explanation of the translation youare not in a position to quote the Qran without cross reference and justification of the other chapters and verses relating to the same thing. Let me put this to You 2Have you stopped beating your wife yet"? answer yes or no that is a literal question in English which ever way you answer it intimates you have or do beat your wife so dont try to be clever with a verse you do not understand from the Qran

 

says it in black n white but because it doesnt fit what you say its wrong ?and the time before it was a muslim on a video clip saying the same didnt he know either ?thats the thing about your book you make it mean whatever to suit and mad mo beat his wife for leaving the house without his permission or is that not right and what it means is he had her tea ready when she returned

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DB If overnight every other religion in the world vanished apart from Islam, do you think there would be world peace? I have this idea that Muslims would just spend more time killing other Muslims. Sunni against shi`a, one faction against another etc.etc. On the other hand if the Muslim religion vanished overnight who would be left fighting who in the world :hmm:

i think napoleon bonaparte flirted with that idea (a fully islamic world for world peace) after hed achieved global domination(which he failed to do).I think christianity fairly owns sectarianism-swift got it right in gullivers travels-as sensible as fighting over which end of an egg to open.

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DB If overnight every other religion in the world vanished apart from Islam, do you think there would be world peace? I have this idea that Muslims would just spend more time killing other Muslims. Sunni against shi`a, one faction against another etc.etc. On the other hand if the Muslim religion vanished overnight who would be left fighting who in the world :hmm:

Julius Ceasar Alexandra. William the Conquerer, Montazuma Philip of Spain Adolph Hitler Winston Churchill, George Bush Tony Blair few examples who were not muslims but killed many started wars enough proof mankind is a being who kills some times without justification many of the people in history were Athiests but still started wars and killed so Religion is not soley to blame is it? your theory of black suits oil wealth and politics is much more resoned/

 

 

 

PS CAN YOU PUT A BUSHING SECTION FOR THE LADS THEN THEY MIGHT f**k OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE

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Lots of people have duel nationality,, my nephew for instance,, my sisters boy,, born to white English par ants,, born here in Mansfield ,, lived her till 2 year old,,, then they all moved to South Africa,, then moved back at 8 year old,,, then back to s.a again,,, the upshot is duel nationality.

 

I bet mushroom has , or is going for Spanish nationality.... As most of my English mates living in Spain have what they call resadentia .

 

Also got ozy mates, who's parents were Brits,, they born there ,, but have British passports as well..

 

It's not as clear cut as most people think,,, it's not black and white ,, forgive the pun...

Oh and don't forget the millions of half cast kids,, where do they fit in,,, obviously close to my heart as I have 2,,, mind you my wife might be mixed,, but she's as British and proud to be as anyone on here

This is what boils my piss Tomo we have all colours here who if shot bleed ' red ' white and blue

 

They would put their Country before any Ancestral home or creed but with id say most Muslims this just aint the case no matter where in the world they reside.

 

Thats my problem with the religion .

 

A goverment Must is to make sure any Immigrants speak Good English so that they can integrate and save our Public Service Millions ie' Translators , Paperwork ect ect

 

Then if they are lucky enough to get Residencey make it a Must they Swear Alligence to England, Scotland, Wales, Eire, NI and Britain if coming to a UK Country or fook you your not Getting in.

 

Aint to much to ask.

 

People bleed red not white and blue as for swearing i would have some choice words for you if you were in my face :thumbs: do all Brits around the world speak the language of the country they reside in? Why swear allegiance to Eire its not GT Britain in fact dont the 6 counties belong to a united ireland? or doesnt that matter as long as you bleed red white and blue?

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DB If overnight every other religion in the world vanished apart from Islam, do you think there would be world peace? I have this idea that Muslims would just spend more time killing other Muslims. Sunni against shi`a, one faction against another etc.etc. On the other hand if the Muslim religion vanished overnight who would be left fighting who in the world :hmm:

Julius Ceasar Alexandra. William the Conquerer, Montazuma Philip of Spain Adolph Hitler Winston Churchill, George Bush Tony Blair few examples who were not muslims but killed many started wars enough proof mankind is a being who kills some times without justification many of the people in history were Athiests but still started wars and killed so Religion is not soley to blame is it? your theory of black suits oil wealth and politics is much more resoned/

 

 

 

PS CAN YOU PUT A BUSHING SECTION FOR THE LADS THEN THEY MIGHT f**k OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE

 

i have no control over adding sections its down to the man in a suit :laugh:

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Lots of people have duel nationality,, my nephew for instance,, my sisters boy,, born to white English par ants,, born here in Mansfield ,, lived her till 2 year old,,, then they all moved to South Africa,, then moved back at 8 year old,,, then back to s.a again,,, the upshot is duel nationality.

 

I bet mushroom has , or is going for Spanish nationality.... As most of my English mates living in Spain have what they call resadentia .

 

Also got ozy mates, who's parents were Brits,, they born there ,, but have British passports as well..

 

It's not as clear cut as most people think,,, it's not black and white ,, forgive the pun...

Oh and don't forget the millions of half cast kids,, where do they fit in,,, obviously close to my heart as I have 2,,, mind you my wife might be mixed,, but she's as British and proud to be as anyone on here

I'm a tax paying resident here and will keep my British passport for my life in a year or two I will apply for citizenship ie permanent residency for no reason other than I want to :thumbs: , I believe intergration is more important than nationality. My mrs being Mexican and me British if we had kids here in Spain what wouyld their nationality be???? Who gives a fec so long as they intergrate wherever they live :yes:

 

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Lots of people have duel nationality,, my nephew for instance,, my sisters boy,, born to white English par ants,, born here in Mansfield ,, lived her till 2 year old,,, then they all moved to South Africa,, then moved back at 8 year old,,, then back to s.a again,,, the upshot is duel nationality.

 

I bet mushroom has , or is going for Spanish nationality.... As most of my English mates living in Spain have what they call resadentia .

 

Also got ozy mates, who's parents were Brits,, they born there ,, but have British passports as well..

 

It's not as clear cut as most people think,,, it's not black and white ,, forgive the pun...

Oh and don't forget the millions of half cast kids,, where do they fit in,,, obviously close to my heart as I have 2,,, mind you my wife might be mixed,, but she's as British and proud to be as anyone on here

I'm a tax paying resident here and will keep my British passport for my life in a year or two I will apply for citizenship ie permanent residency for no reason other than I want to :thumbs: , I believe intergration is more important than nationality. My mrs being Mexican and me British if we had kids here in Spain what wouyld their nationality be???? Who gives a fec so long as they intergrate wherever they live :yes:

 

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no matter how hard you push a square peg will never fit into a round hole unless the squareness is removed :laugh:

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Lots of people have duel nationality,, my nephew for instance,, my sisters boy,, born to white English par ants,, born here in Mansfield ,, lived her till 2 year old,,, then they all moved to South Africa,, then moved back at 8 year old,,, then back to s.a again,,, the upshot is duel nationality.

I bet mushroom has , or is going for Spanish nationality.... As most of my English mates living in Spain have what they call resadentia .

Also got ozy mates, who's parents were Brits,, they born there ,, but have British passports as well..

It's not as clear cut as most people think,,, it's not black and white ,, forgive the pun...

Oh and don't forget the millions of half cast kids,, where do they fit in,,, obviously close to my heart as I have 2,,, mind you my wife might be mixed,, but she's as British and proud to be as anyone on here

 

I'm a tax paying resident here and will keep my British passport for my life in a year or two I will apply for citizenship ie permanent residency for no reason other than I want to :thumbs: , I believe intergration is more important than nationality. My mrs being Mexican and me British if we had kids here in Spain what wouyld their nationality be???? Who gives a fec so long as they intergrate wherever they live :yes:

 

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. THATS WHY I HATE SPAIN ALL THOSE BRITISH BARS. LOL
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IMO your kids' nationality is the country they are raised in. I'm Canadian, my ex is Scottish ... my kids were born in England. They're being raised here, taught respect for the law of the land, taught the history etc. My house was the only one on my entire (English populated) street with a St. George's Day flag out the window this year. I want them to have pride in the country that will ultimately mould who they grow up to be. They are English.

 

Muslim children in this country should be taught that they are English first and foremost. But mostly they are seen as only Muslim - that doesn't do much to encourage any kind of fidelity.

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well f**k me I am suprised you Scots Fuckers from Aberdeen can read. why talk about shit holes in the middle east when you have one here in Britain called Aberdeen

 

Oh muzziebred what's wrong, tell uncle Bob, and learn to read I'm from Aberdeenshire, not Aberdeen. :ninja::ninja::ninja:

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well f**k me I am suprised you Scots Fuckers from Aberdeen can read. why talk about shit holes in the middle east when you have one here in Britain called Aberdeen

 

Oh muzziebred what's wrong, tell uncle Bob, and learn to read I'm from Aberdeenshire, nor Aberdeen. :ninja::ninja::ninja:

 

wasn't Bilbo Baggins from the shire :laugh:

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Lots of people have duel nationality,, my nephew for instance,, my sisters boy,, born to white English par ants,, born here in Mansfield ,, lived her till 2 year old,,, then they all moved to South Africa,, then moved back at 8 year old,,, then back to s.a again,,, the upshot is duel nationality.

 

I bet mushroom has , or is going for Spanish nationality.... As most of my English mates living in Spain have what they call resadentia .

 

Also got ozy mates, who's parents were Brits,, they born there ,, but have British passports as well..

 

It's not as clear cut as most people think,,, it's not black and white ,, forgive the pun...

Oh and don't forget the millions of half cast kids,, where do they fit in,,, obviously close to my heart as I have 2,,, mind you my wife might be mixed,, but she's as British and proud to be as anyone on here

I'm a tax paying resident here and will keep my British passport for my life in a year or two I will apply for citizenship ie permanent residency for no reason other than I want to :thumbs: , I believe intergration is more important than nationality. My mrs being Mexican and me British if we had kids here in Spain what wouyld their nationality be???? Who gives a fec so long as they intergrate wherever they live :yes:

 

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no matter how hard you push a square peg will never fit into a round hole unless the squareness is removed :laugh:

 

It's hip to be square :victory::tongue2:

 

 

 

Lots of people have duel nationality,, my nephew for instance,, my sisters boy,, born to white English par ants,, born here in Mansfield ,, lived her till 2 year old,,, then they all moved to South Africa,, then moved back at 8 year old,,, then back to s.a again,,, the upshot is duel nationality.

I bet mushroom has , or is going for Spanish nationality.... As most of my English mates living in Spain have what they call resadentia .

Also got ozy mates, who's parents were Brits,, they born there ,, but have British passports as well..

It's not as clear cut as most people think,,, it's not black and white ,, forgive the pun...

Oh and don't forget the millions of half cast kids,, where do they fit in,,, obviously close to my heart as I have 2,,, mind you my wife might be mixed,, but she's as British and proud to be as anyone on here

I'm a tax paying resident here and will keep my British passport for my life in a year or two I will apply for citizenship ie permanent residency for no reason other than I want to :thumbs: , I believe intergration is more important than nationality. My mrs being Mexican and me British if we had kids here in Spain what wouyld their nationality be???? Who gives a fec so long as they intergrate wherever they live :yes:

 

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. THATS WHY I HATE SPAIN ALL THOSE BRITISH BARS. LOL

 

Lol I tend to stay away from them too I ALWAYS end up fighting or arguing :laugh: most English expats are feckin nobheads and they gravitate towards me for some reason :laugh: :laugh:

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