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what are the two metal pins crossing eachother used for in the video blaise? great pics and vid btw :thumbs:

There divining rods mate.....old way of finding water, minerals etc....I have heard of men using them in pre-locator days, to find terriers....

 

Cheers mate thought thats what they were, how does that work then?

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I don't know exactly what do you mean by "mix", it means to bite ? If it means to bite, they are more barkers than mixers. Betty, the left one on the pic, is my best jack (10 badgers in 5 hunts this

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what are the two metal pins crossing eachother used for in the video blaise? great pics and vid btw :thumbs:

 

As said Accip47, you can locate the tunnels with the rods. When you are above, they cross. But be careful, it isn't an exact science.
Some are able to estimate the depth : When rods are crossed, you have to recede slowly until rods come back parallel. If you need to recede 2 meters, there's 2 meters depth.
Some pretend to find the animal... magician or liar ?
The ancients thought that badgers was able to feel the fluid of the magicians when they walked above and then badgers became aggressives. I've seen some french terriermen who didn't want these "magicians" during the hunt. Too much magnetic fluid or too much lies.
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Divining works on finding water and if it works in a digging scenario it must be the water in an animals body that makes it work.

The rods can be made from two wire coat hangers straightened out and then the last few inches bent to a 90 degree angle for each hand.

Held loosely they'll cross when over water. Anyone can do it, try it over a glass of water sitting on the floor.

What's more amazing is the true Diviners tool. It's a hazel Y cut about 18 inches long and when holding the two forks the straight part bends to the underground water. It takes practice and has to be seen to be believed.

With practice some lads can tell the depth of the water course but in the terrier game i'd have to see it to believe it.

Maybe underground water or moisture in the soil isn't as big a factor in France but here I couldn't rely on it to find a terrier.

I wouldn't even chance it.

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I would imagine the french have got too much respect for the quarry to use such a dog......

did you not write a book on the strong dogs of ireland ?

 

No, my company published a book of historical photos. I personally do not need, or agree, that there is a place for 'draw dogs' in today's terrierwork. I just don't. But, like I say, that's just my personal opinion.

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Divining works on finding water and if it works in a digging scenario it must be the water in an animals body that makes it work.

The rods can be made from two wire coat hangers straightened out and then the last few inches bent to a 90 degree angle for each hand.

Held loosely they'll cross when over water. Anyone can do it, try it over a glass of water sitting on the floor.

What's more amazing is the true Diviners tool. It's a hazel Y cut about 18 inches long and when holding the two forks the straight part bends to the underground water. It takes practice and has to be seen to be believed.

With practice some lads can tell the depth of the water course but in the terrier game i'd have to see it to believe it.

Maybe underground water or moisture in the soil isn't as big a factor in France but here I couldn't rely on it to find a terrier.

I wouldn't even chance it.

 

Try it !
To begin, Find a drain pipe in your floor with two rods or outside in the ground.
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Neil,

 

If you are able to do it for water, you should be able to find dry pipes.

 

 

Another tip for finding depth : with a single rod, held horizontally, you slowly raise your hand ground up. When the rod rotates in your hand a 1/4 turn, stop. Depth equal to the distance between your hand and the ground.

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How do you despatch your game

 

 

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I have a captive bolt, discrete, no risk, very fast, efficient. The animal don't suffer.

 

Some use a 9mm rifle here, more dangerous if you are in group. Some others use a dagger after stunned the game but you must be very familiar.

 

We never leave a living badger to the dogs.

I thought captive bolt guns merely render the animal unconscious?? Or do they kill a small animal like a badger?

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How do you despatch your game

 

attachicon.gifmatador.gif

 

I have a captive bolt, discrete, no risk, very fast, efficient. The animal don't suffer.

 

Some use a 9mm rifle here, more dangerous if you are in group. Some others use a dagger after stunned the game but you must be very familiar.

 

We never leave a living badger to the dogs.

I thought captive bolt guns merely render the animal unconscious?? Or do they kill a small animal like a badger?

 

 

Captive bolt is used to kill definitively cows or bulls.

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How do you despatch your game

 

attachicon.gifmatador.gif

 

I have a captive bolt, discrete, no risk, very fast, efficient. The animal don't suffer.

 

Some use a 9mm rifle here, more dangerous if you are in group. Some others use a dagger after stunned the game but you must be very familiar.

 

We never leave a living badger to the dogs.

I thought captive bolt guns merely render the animal unconscious?? Or do they kill a small animal like a badger?

 

http://youtu.be/DN5JHobD3W0

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I would imagine the french have got too much respect for the quarry to use such a dog......

did you not write a book on the strong dogs of ireland ?

 

No, my company published a book of historical photos. I personally do not need, or agree, that there is a place for 'draw dogs' in today's terrierwork. I just don't. But, like I say, that's just my personal opinion.

 

I agree that strongdogs in the wrong hands can be bad for terrierwork in todays day and age, but i wouldnt say using a strong dog means you have any less respect for the quarry you hunt and i stress that im talking about sensible geniune dog men not macho men standing at a dig with a pair of runners and a staff

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