Benellisupernova 104 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 what are the two metal pins crossing eachother used for in the video blaise? great pics and vid btw There divining rods mate.....old way of finding water, minerals etc....I have heard of men using them in pre-locator days, to find terriers.... Cheers mate thought thats what they were, how does that work then? Quote Link to post
Blaise 2,322 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 what are the two metal pins crossing eachother used for in the video blaise? great pics and vid btw As said Accip47, you can locate the tunnels with the rods. When you are above, they cross. But be careful, it isn't an exact science. Some are able to estimate the depth : When rods are crossed, you have to recede slowly until rods come back parallel. If you need to recede 2 meters, there's 2 meters depth. Some pretend to find the animal... magician or liar ? The ancients thought that badgers was able to feel the fluid of the magicians when they walked above and then badgers became aggressives. I've seen some french terriermen who didn't want these "magicians" during the hunt. Too much magnetic fluid or too much lies. 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Divining works on finding water and if it works in a digging scenario it must be the water in an animals body that makes it work. The rods can be made from two wire coat hangers straightened out and then the last few inches bent to a 90 degree angle for each hand. Held loosely they'll cross when over water. Anyone can do it, try it over a glass of water sitting on the floor. What's more amazing is the true Diviners tool. It's a hazel Y cut about 18 inches long and when holding the two forks the straight part bends to the underground water. It takes practice and has to be seen to be believed. With practice some lads can tell the depth of the water course but in the terrier game i'd have to see it to believe it. Maybe underground water or moisture in the soil isn't as big a factor in France but here I couldn't rely on it to find a terrier. I wouldn't even chance it. Edited October 27, 2014 by neil cooney 1 Quote Link to post
howsshefrom 32 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I would imagine the french have got too much respect for the quarry to use such a dog...... did you not write a book on the strong dogs of ireland ? 4 Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I would imagine the french have got too much respect for the quarry to use such a dog...... did you not write a book on the strong dogs of ireland ? No, my company published a book of historical photos. I personally do not need, or agree, that there is a place for 'draw dogs' in today's terrierwork. I just don't. But, like I say, that's just my personal opinion. 4 Quote Link to post
Blaise 2,322 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Divining works on finding water and if it works in a digging scenario it must be the water in an animals body that makes it work. The rods can be made from two wire coat hangers straightened out and then the last few inches bent to a 90 degree angle for each hand. Held loosely they'll cross when over water. Anyone can do it, try it over a glass of water sitting on the floor. What's more amazing is the true Diviners tool. It's a hazel Y cut about 18 inches long and when holding the two forks the straight part bends to the underground water. It takes practice and has to be seen to be believed. With practice some lads can tell the depth of the water course but in the terrier game i'd have to see it to believe it. Maybe underground water or moisture in the soil isn't as big a factor in France but here I couldn't rely on it to find a terrier. I wouldn't even chance it. Try it ! To begin, Find a drain pipe in your floor with two rods or outside in the ground. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I've done it several times Blaise and know it works. It's a very interesting subject and I would love to see an experienced man finding a terrier in such a way. But it's not something I'd rely on doing myself. Quote Link to post
Blaise 2,322 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Neil, If you are able to do it for water, you should be able to find dry pipes. Another tip for finding depth : with a single rod, held horizontally, you slowly raise your hand ground up. When the rod rotates in your hand a 1/4 turn, stop. Depth equal to the distance between your hand and the ground. 1 Quote Link to post
ratkilla 35 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Stop being alcoholics and get your self a bullcross!! 1 Quote Link to post
Blaise 2,322 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Stop being alcoholics and get your self a bullcross!! Never ! Support our french winegrowers ! 7 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 How do you despatch your game matador.gif I have a captive bolt, discrete, no risk, very fast, efficient. The animal don't suffer. Some use a 9mm rifle here, more dangerous if you are in group. Some others use a dagger after stunned the game but you must be very familiar. We never leave a living badger to the dogs. I thought captive bolt guns merely render the animal unconscious?? Or do they kill a small animal like a badger? Quote Link to post
Blaise 2,322 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 How do you despatch your game matador.gif I have a captive bolt, discrete, no risk, very fast, efficient. The animal don't suffer. Some use a 9mm rifle here, more dangerous if you are in group. Some others use a dagger after stunned the game but you must be very familiar. We never leave a living badger to the dogs. I thought captive bolt guns merely render the animal unconscious?? Or do they kill a small animal like a badger? Captive bolt is used to kill definitively cows or bulls. Quote Link to post
dymented 2,220 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 How do you despatch your game matador.gif I have a captive bolt, discrete, no risk, very fast, efficient. The animal don't suffer. Some use a 9mm rifle here, more dangerous if you are in group. Some others use a dagger after stunned the game but you must be very familiar. We never leave a living badger to the dogs. I thought captive bolt guns merely render the animal unconscious?? Or do they kill a small animal like a badger? http://youtu.be/DN5JHobD3W0 Quote Link to post
howsshefrom 32 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I would imagine the french have got too much respect for the quarry to use such a dog...... did you not write a book on the strong dogs of ireland ? No, my company published a book of historical photos. I personally do not need, or agree, that there is a place for 'draw dogs' in today's terrierwork. I just don't. But, like I say, that's just my personal opinion. I agree that strongdogs in the wrong hands can be bad for terrierwork in todays day and age, but i wouldnt say using a strong dog means you have any less respect for the quarry you hunt and i stress that im talking about sensible geniune dog men not macho men standing at a dig with a pair of runners and a staff 2 Quote Link to post
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