Putting Your Hand Up To Your Dog When Its Done Wrong

[bird 9,977]

Casso, now it all makes sense... Thank you for taking the time to write that up... On a bloody phone..!!

 

This is a method of training that is new to me but when my next pup finally arrives i'm going to have enough knowledge on the subject to put it into place.

What I like about it is the 'feel good' factor in a dog, I like that, that and a close bond. If those things are ironed out from the off, all things in the field should come easy or at least easier..!!

 

As for twatting your dog in a fight situation, i've posted on the subject before and the last thing you should be doing is hitting the dogs...!!!

 

sent you a pm.?

[C Hall 552]

Two lurcher's fighting each other with the serious intent of causing damage or killing the other dog will take absolutely no notice of voice commands minor scuffles maybe but not a serious fight when two dogs dislike each other. When pack instinct kicks in and its a few dogs onto one things are even worse a very serious problem on your hands especially if your on your own

Edited June 4, 2013 by C Hall

[paulsmithy83 567]

Two lurcher's with the serious intent of causing damage or killing the other dog will take absolutely no notice of voice commands minor scuffles maybe but not a serious fight when two dogs dislike each other. When pack instinct kicks in and its a few dogs onto one things are even worse a very serious problem on your hands especially if your on your own

Very true how ever much u in love with ya self no sweet nothing's will stop that apart from manning up n stoppin it short n sharp

[LaraCroft 863]

Two lurcher's fighting each other with the serious intent of causing damage or killing the other dog will take absolutely no notice of voice commands minor scuffles maybe but not a serious fight when two dogs dislike each other. When pack instinct kicks in and its a few dogs onto one things are even worse a very serious problem on your hands especially if your on your own

Agree if you find them already fighting, but what about if the tension is building up over a period of time, would you not recognise the warning signs that things were not going well, and perhaps about to go really pear shaped - then would voice commands / action either stop or avoid an incident ?

[C Hall 552]

Lara prevention is always better than cure, but fights can kick off with no warning whatsoever Two litter brothers were the worst I have witnessed they lived in perfect harmony for a long time until a minor disagreement over very little escalated into a full scale war and believe me voice commands were the last thing they were going to take notice of anyone who thinks they can stop that sort of ruckus with only a few stern words is delusional

[LaraCroft 863]

Lara prevention is always better than cure, but fights can kick off with no warning whatsoever Two litter brothers were the worst I have witnessed they lived in perfect harmony for a long time until a minor disagreement over very little escalated into a full scale war and believe me voice commands were the last thing they were going to take notice of anyone who thinks they can stop that sort of ruckus with only a few stern words is delusional

I do agree that in that situation, when they are locked on and all hell is breaking loose, that words are not going to be enough - I have the scars to prove that 2 dogs fighting takes more than "ooooh Fido, I am not impressed" to separate them. I was just interested in the body language the dogs display prior to an all out attack, and whether it can be stopped at that point - before it gets out of control.

 

If mine are being daft on a lead, a nudge in the ribs is enough to say " oi, watch it matey" and get them back into line. Sometimes I have to shout - if they get out of control when playing, but I have never had to hit in anger. IMHO, hitting in anger means you have already lost control yourself, and you are never going to make the situation better.

[C Hall 552]

Lara if there are signs I would say yes voice commands can bring things under control if the dogs respect you as boss, keeping them separate is usually the best bet if these signs continue

[Bosun11 537]

I wrote this post on dogs kicking off back in September last year... I still stand by it...

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/259063-stopping-a-dog-attack/?p=2790620

[C Hall 552]

Bosun ... there is a stage when two dogs are fighting at which you must become physically involved and get there attention in some other way than shouting because shouting sometimes will not work

All this not raising a hand shit is just pure bollox IMO

[Casso 1,261]

Bosun ... there is a stage when two dogs are fighting at which you must become physically involved and get there attention in some other way than shouting because shouting sometimes will not work

 

All this not raising a hand shit is just pure bollox IMO

You seem to have a problem bud with people not beating their dogs enough

 

Is it that they should, or the fact that's the way you do it ,

 

Maybe that's the means you use to control your animals , look I don't care if you wear your boots out on there behinds bud but as far as getting the best out of the mutt I never felt that shining my shoe on his ass was the way forward

 

This forum is for discussion which usually means different ideas views and opinions it may be difficult to fathom but we all have slightly different ways and knowledge about managing the mutt

 

I'm a sort of driven character and have never been happy with what I've been told or read that didn't make sense to me , a lot of doggy experts on the tv or otherwise have zero understanding of drive ,none , we as driven working dog owners are trying to manage dogs through f**king pet dog trainers, it's time we looked to the sports dog world for tuition because the rest of them are failing miserably

We've watched all the doggy shows and know the trainers but more mutts end up in shelters than in the field every year , if the system don't work ,change the system

Best of luck with the mutts

[C Hall 552]

Casso "BUD" I "seem to have a problem with people not beating there dogs enough"? ffs are you for real

 

I "fathom" things perfectly fine thank you very much

 

If my dogs need a clip to keep them in line for fighting or whatever else then so be it I don't beat them into submission for no good reason you fool

Edited June 4, 2013 by C Hall

[paulsmithy83 567]

^^^^^ like that 1, casso dnt care how godly u feel [BANNED TEXT] they realy get goin only 1 way will stop it. Obviously u Neva been in that situation yet otherwise u Wundt b satin voice commands are all you need. N god for bid u will Neva need to do more but from seeing to dogs really rip in sum times even the boot aint good enough but id prefer try then just being like a pet owner shoutin commands to be ignored. Even sum failed police dogs are failed because of this 100's a yr. think it proves not all dogs will back down. Now I will say again I don't agree in BEATIN dogs but if realy need to as there is a time n place as bird says I wud get stuck in first to save any my workin dogs

[C Hall 552]

The owner of Fenton did not have his tug toy with him that day

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRSbr0EYYU

Edited June 4, 2013 by C Hall

[Casso 1,261]

What can I say lads , you've got this dog stuff figured out

 

The only thing I can't grasp is why the dog keeps falling out of line

 

Your obviously top dog so why doesn't the mutt understand that

 

But then again it's a lot easier to blame everything on the mutt then to try and figure out what's really going on.

[C Hall 552]

What can I say lads , you've got this dog stuff figured out

 

The only thing I can't grasp is why the dog keeps falling out of line

 

Your obviously top dog so why doesn't the mutt understand that

 

But then again it's a lot easier to blame everything on the mutt then to try and figure out what's really going on.

 

I have a 6 year dog which was a pleasure to train from being a puppy I never had to clip or beat him in anyway until he was 5 year old raised my voice at him a few times bribed him with treats to get him to do as I wanted When he was 5 his half brother attacked him for no reason he took a bad beating and hardly fought back but no real damage was caused TBH. Untill then this dog had never had a fight or even growled at another dog in serious anger but little did I know he was holding a grudge against his half brother for the beating he had been given for no reason. About 3 months later they bumped into one another while running about and all hell broke loose, the 6 year old was giving his half brother a right pasting with no intention of stopping I had to give a dog which I had never raised a hand to in the past a good scolding to make him stop his half brother spent 3 weeks healing up and it would of been a lot worse if I had only been raising my voice to try and stop them.

 

Now fook off and preach your bullshit to someone else casso "BUD"

Edited June 5, 2013 by C Hall