stando 177 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sireA lot of people think that.so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suitWas chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikelythat billy was out of the Charlie litter. You seem to no a lot about wheeler bred dogs can you give me an idea what here working style is like .? I no that there not all going to be the same but from what you have experienced how would you describe there style The stuff i saw years ago that was actually bred by Mr Wheeler was recklessly hard but most of whats about now is probably only a 1/4 that blood at most and have been crossed to different lines so its anybodys guess what you could get, Spot on Brog Quote Link to post
bullcross13 58 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sire A lot of people think that.so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suitWas chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikelythat billy was out of the Charlie litter. You seem to no a lot about wheeler bred dogs can you give me an idea what here working style is like .? I no that there not all going to be the same but from what you have experienced how would you describe there style The stuff i saw years ago that was actually bred by Mr Wheeler was recklessly hard but most of whats about now is probably only a 1/4 that blood at most and have been crossed to different lines so its anybodys guess what you could get, Are there any lads you no that are still breeding close to Mr wheeler stuff or keeping his old stuff don't want names just to no if Iam wasting my time trying to get one Quote Link to post
bobby blackheart 1,209 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sireA lot of people think that.so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suitWas chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikelythat billy was out of the Charlie litter. You seem to no a lot about wheeler bred dogs can you give me an idea what here working style is like .? I no that there not all going to be the same but from what you have experienced how would you describe there style The stuff i saw years ago that was actually bred by Mr Wheeler was recklessly hard but most of whats about now is probably only a 1/4 that blood at most and have been crossed to different lines so its anybodys guess what you could get, Are there any lads you no that are still breeding close to Mr wheeler stuff or keeping his old stuff don't want names just to no if Iam wasting my time trying to get one for the right price any dog can be bought plenty of bully looking lines out there that have a bit of discretion about them and wont be in the sickbay for half the season-good luck with the quest Quote Link to post
bullcross13 58 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sire A lot of people think that.so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suitWas chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikelythat billy was out of the Charlie litter. You seem to no a lot about wheeler bred dogs can you give me an idea what here working style is like .? I no that there not all going to be the same but from what you have experienced how would you describe there style The stuff i saw years ago that was actually bred by Mr Wheeler was recklessly hard but most of whats about now is probably only a 1/4 that blood at most and have been crossed to different lines so its anybodys guess what you could get, Are there any lads you no that are still breeding close to Mr wheeler stuff or keeping his old stuff don't want names just to no if Iam wasting my time trying to get one for the right price any dog can be bought plenty of bully looking lines out there that have a bit of discretion about them and wont be in the sickbay for half the season-good luck with the quest Your right there any dog can be bought at a price but I only buy pups bring them on and never sell if there not good enough for me there not good enough for any one else when I buy pups I try to get them from people who bred from the best in the hope of getting the best . That my way weather it right or wrong 1 Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sireA lot of people think that.so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suitWas chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikelythat billy was out of the Charlie litter. You seem to no a lot about wheeler bred dogs can you give me an idea what here working style is like .? I no that there not all going to be the same but from what you have experienced how would you describe there style The stuff i saw years ago that was actually bred by Mr Wheeler was recklessly hard but most of whats about now is probably only a 1/4 that blood at most and have been crossed to different lines so its anybodys guess what you could get, Spot on Brog i didnt say nothing Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sire A lot of people think that. so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suit Was chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikely that billy was out of the Charlie litter. the ped you gave me had charlie as billy sir or did that just suit you then 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Downsouth I was told that 'Billy' was out of N's 'Charlie'? L' up here that had 'Molly' said she was 'Billy's' litter sister and N' gave her him when she was a pup. Quote Link to post
!tony! 227 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Down south did you not take a bitch once that was charley bred to mate with billy cos they were both charley bred ? Quote Link to post
TRUE SAXON 108 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Down south did you not take a bitch once that was charley bred to mate with billy cos they were both charley bred ? lol spot on ant i heard that too 1 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,212 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sire A lot of people think that. so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suit Was chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikely that billy was out of the Charlie litter. the ped you gave me had charlie as billy sir or did that just suit you then Ive never given you a pedigree for Billy.Ive never had a pedigree for pedigree for Billy.If you remember back i told you the same thing a few months ago when you rang me a few months ago when you was trying towrite out a pedigree for your dog. Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,212 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Downsouth I was told that 'Billy' was out of N's 'Charlie'? L' up here that had 'Molly' said she was 'Billy's' litter sister and N' gave her him when she was a pup. Ask Lee again as N told him the same thing better stillif you know N ask him.Billy and Molly were littermates both Chocolate and like Nsaid Charlie had never produced a Chocolate in his life even when bred to chocolate bitches.But the other dog in his kennels that he bred one of the bitches to was out of a chocolate so would have carried the chocolate Gene.Maybe if someone reading this knows a bit about genetics they could shed some light on this. Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,212 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Down south did you not take a bitch once that was charley bred to mate with billy cos they were both charley bred ? Ive never had a Charlie bred bitch and if i wanted to use a Charlie bred dog i have a Charlie son down here too use. Quote Link to post
stando 177 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Charlie was Billy's sireA lot of people think that.so wasn't he ?I know the owner says different things to suitWas chatting with my mate who owned Charlie the other night.2 bitches were left at his place to be mated.One was bred to Charlie the other to another dog he had there who was out of a chocolate,Billy is chocolate and he had a sister who was chocolate that another mate owned and my mate said charlie had never produced a chocolate so he thinks its very unlikelythat billy was out of the Charlie litter. You seem to no a lot about wheeler bred dogs can you give me an idea what here working style is like .? I no that there not all going to be the same but from what you have experienced how would you describe there style The stuff i saw years ago that was actually bred by Mr Wheeler was recklessly hard but most of whats about now is probably only a 1/4 that blood at most and have been crossed to different lines so its anybodys guess what you could get, Spot on Quote Link to post
TRUE SAXON 108 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Down south did you not take a bitch once that was charley bred to mate with billy cos they were both charley bred ? Ive never had a Charlie bred bitch and if i wanted to use a Charlie bred dog i have a Charlie son down here Quote Link to post
bobby blackheart 1,209 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 some confusion going on by the sounds of it i like Glyns answer in that other thread f***ing priceless -lol-people only want the names to make some coin off some other lads hard work imho-who cares so long as Grafts?putting up peds for all and sundry to see cant be to good-litters will be springing up everywhere atb Quote Link to post
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