brog 670 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 why would you want a . 243 for solely fox control.........more smaller cals out there for that specific task .223 .204 .22.250. .222 .22 hornet ???....... you may find the firearms officer asking you the same question.............and if he does your reply will be ????........ but good luck any ive been out with a couple of people alot over the last couple of years and used a 223 and a 243 the 223 was effected by the wind witch wasnt ideal but the 243 was spot on in all ways i just thought i would ask to see if there was any chance of getting one for a first rifle . how is the 22.250 compared to the 243 Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I think it depends where you are. i got 243 with my first fac, no mentor or similar. With a DSC 1 or on renewal it is open, which makes little difference really. I really wanted mine open after a couple of years, but as you need permission to shoot the ground, the only difference is it may not be police checked. Most ground is, so the difference is one phone call, or it is here. Mine is now open and i still shoot in the same places. 243 may be seen as heavy for fox, 222, 223 and 22 250 are excellent fox rounds, but i use the 243 for everything except reds. However regardless what is hit with a 222 or 243 its day is spoilt, so i would hope you would get it granted as you have good cause. good luck thank you for the info Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 i am going for my fac and need a rifle for fox control there are six big farms and the land is past for 243 is there any chance of getting a 243 for a first rifle I'm getting lost with all the Bull here, YES, you can have a .243 on first grant for Fox, or whatever you like if you can justify it! THE END! 1 Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 i am going for my fac and need a rifle for fox control there are six big farms and the land is past for 243 is there any chance of getting a 243 for a first rifle I'm getting lost with all the Bull here, YES, you can have a .243 on first grant for Fox, or whatever you like if you can justify it! THE END! do you mean me with the bull Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 i am going for my fac and need a rifle for fox control there are six big farms and the land is past for 243 is there any chance of getting a 243 for a first rifle I'm getting lost with all the Bull here, YES, you can have a .243 on first grant for Fox, or whatever you like if you can justify it! THE END! do you mean me with the bull Firearms Law says you can have what you can justify! And also remember the 2002 Home Office Guide to the Police lists .243 as FOX suitable. So think about some of the replies......... Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 i am going for my fac and need a rifle for fox control there are six big farms and the land is past for 243 is there any chance of getting a 243 for a first rifle I'm getting lost with all the Bull here, YES, you can have a .243 on first grant for Fox, or whatever you like if you can justify it! THE END! do you mean me with the bull Firearms Law says you can have what you can justify! And also remember the 2002 Home Office Guide to the Police lists .243 as FOX suitable. So think about some of the replies......... thank you for the info ive used 223 and 243 how would you rate a 22.250 compared ? Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) i am going for my fac and need a rifle for fox control there are six big farms and the land is past for 243 is there any chance of getting a 243 for a first rifle I'm getting lost with all the Bull here, YES, you can have a .243 on first grant for Fox, or whatever you like if you can justify it! THE END! do you mean me with the bull Firearms Law says you can have what you can justify! And also remember the 2002 Home Office Guide to the Police lists .243 as FOX suitable. So think about some of the replies......... thank you for the info ive used 223 and 243 how would you rate a 22.250 compared ? I run .223, .243, .308, (4 rimfires, a couple of air rifles, inc FAC and some shotguns) I have no need for a 22-250 which with my selection of firearms I consider pointless. It is noisy, aggressive and fast BUT it is NOT all deer legal. It doesn't work for me on any level, but there are those that find it superb and would never part with it. WHY 22-250, little or no need for fox/small deer over .222/.223 and if you think you really do need it for those distant fox then why not a .243, which in my opinion is the best long range fox tool available, and ALL deer legal as well, so more versatility, and frankly if you can get a 22-250 grant I struggle to see why you can't a .243. Edited May 30, 2013 by Deker Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 i am going for my fac and need a rifle for fox control there are six big farms and the land is past for 243 is there any chance of getting a 243 for a first rifle I'm getting lost with all the Bull here, YES, you can have a .243 on first grant for Fox, or whatever you like if you can justify it! THE END! do you mean me with the bull Firearms Law says you can have what you can justify! And also remember the 2002 Home Office Guide to the Police lists .243 as FOX suitable. So think about some of the replies......... thank you for the info ive used 223 and 243 how would you rate a 22.250 compared ? I run .223, .243, .308, (4 rimfires, a couple of air rifles, inc FAC and some shotguns) I have no need for a 22-250 which with my selection of firearms I consider pointless. It is noisy, aggressive and fast and it is NOT all deer legal. It doesn't work for me on any level, but there are those that find it superb and would never part with it. WHY 22-250, little or no need for fox/small deer over .222/.223 and if you think you really do need it for those distant fox then why not a .243, which in my opinion is the best long range fox tool available, and ALL deer legal as well, so more versatility, and frankly if you can get a 22-250 grant I struggle to see why you can't a .243. thank you again i think the 243 is a real good tool i was just thinking of other options Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 thank you again i think the 243 is a real good tool i was just thinking of other options So do I, it works for me and what I do, but I do have a decent selection of tools, everyone has different shooting situations/requirements and there are lots of other calibres as well! Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 thank you again i think the 243 is a real good tool i was just thinking of other options So do I, it works for me and what I do, but I do have a decent selection of tools, everyone has different shooting situations/requirements and there are lots of other calibres as well! i think i will go for a 243 and see how it goes Quote Link to post
b53hunt 15 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 22-250 smokes like a f****r my shooting partner has one cant stand it under lamp and if you want one rifle for fox a deer .243 all the way pal good luck atb b Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Removed my post as it went ignored. Like I said it wsa not my intention to hijack - original question had been answered. Sorry if offended anyone. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Yes as said you can have a .243 as a first rifle,but nobody seems to have pointed out to you that your licensing dept will probably put a mentoring clause on your certificate, as you have no experience (or very little in their eyes) with a cf rifle, but it is not the end of the world, get out shooting with whoever mentors you gain some experience and get it removed, it will also help if you can get a covering letter from a person or people who you shoot with and use that calibre or above, get them to support you and say thay deem you suitable,and have been out shooting with them, good luck mate,and just to add a .22-250 is a brilliant calibre, for fox and small deer,and if he ums and ars at a .243 then that calibre will do everything you require of it. Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Yes as said you can have a .243 as a first rifle,but nobody seems to have pointed out to you that your licensing dept will probably put a mentoring clause on your certificate, as you have no experience (or very little in their eyes) with a cf rifle, but it is not the end of the world, get out shooting with whoever mentors you gain some experience and get it removed, it will also help if you can get a covering letter from a person or people who you shoot with and use that calibre or above, get them to support you and say thay deem you suitable,and have been out shooting with them, good luck mate,and just to add a .22-250 is a brilliant calibre, for fox and small deer,and if he ums and ars at a .243 then that calibre will do everything you require of it. thank you cc that is the sort of info i was looking for Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 No problem mate, it can all be rather confusing,might be worth putting a .22 rf down as well mate for the bunnies, save you some cash if you want one at a later date. Quote Link to post
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