.22 0r .17

[ferreterno1 0]

hello

im putting in for my fac licence but am not sure which rifle to go for ive seen a .22 in action and am really impressed, what i want to know is whats the advantages and disadvantages of a .17? ive been told they have a better range but are more noisey is that correct?

Any help would be apreciated

 

[SNAP SHOT 194]

hello

im putting in for my fac licence but am not sure which rifle to go for ive seen a .22 in action and am really impressed, what i want to know is whats the advantages and disadvantages of a .17? ive been told they have a better range but are more noisey is that correct?

Any help would be apreciated

 

 

Alright mate, here's my 2 cents worth,

If your just goin out now and again plinking to about 70 yards the .22 is your job, if your looking for a gun to take plenty of bunny's and a bit of target shooting then the .17hmr is the way to go.

The round's are more expensive but are more accurate and capable of bunny's to 180 to 200 yards with the right scope. i've shot at these distances no problem but it's a hell of a lot of click's up on a scope.

As for the noise theres not much differance in it. but put a sak mod on it if you like. then you have a nice little bit of kit.

The choice is yours.........................................

[Guest Magwitch]

.22LR if its rabbits your after, very little damage to the rabbit and £35 per 1000 for ammo, also very little noise .17s are noisy even with a Mod.

[wag 13]

for me its got to be a 17 more accurate at distance and you can take fox with them to better than a 22. yes they do make a mess but I try to take head shots anyway. so a 17 would be my choice every time .

[dead ive 0]

It all depends on what type of shooting you do .For example if your covering a lot of land using a vehicle then a .22lr would be my preference .If your walking about and there are nearby outbuilding's ,farm dogs etc then still it'd be the .22lr because with subsonic ammo they are quieter than most air rfiles .

The .17 hmr is the best small varmint calibre out there today but it as quite a bark even when moderated and using this calibre as a first line pest control tool (Quick successive shot's ) in habitated area's will soon draw unwanted attention to yourself .

So to summerise

.22LR: Silent ,High chance of ricchochet's ,cheaper ammo 70yds as an average would be my maximum range /

 

.17 HMR : Loud ,less likely to ricchochet ,Around £10 + for a box of 50 rounds now .125 yds when head shooting .....Further if going for the larger body .

 

IMO the HMR is no dedicated Fox calibre but is OK for those opportunist shots that sometimes arise .I would advise the closer the better as well

[ferreterno1 0]

thank you all for your views ive put both down on my aplication were see how it goes

[James@Scarborough 0]

Pros and cons with both.I prefere the .22lr for the lack of noise, but try before you buy. It is personal choice.

[digger101 0]

Pros and cons with both.I prefere the .22lr for the lack of noise, but try before you buy. It is personal choice.

17 every time sm11 sirocco mod better than sak have both for my sako quad stopped 6 foxes out to 120 yards no messing best round 17gr vmax cci spear heads shite the mod takes more of the crack off than the sak shot over 2000 rabbits in 12 months fantastic little round safe as well a lady got hit in the calf muscle round here from a ricoshae how ever you spell it they reckon from over a mile away thats my tupence worth good look and great hunting listen to snap shot he nows his shit man

[jamie g 17]

go for both i did and both have there use

[Yokel Matt 918]

Tried both... settled on a .22 with a fixed power scope. The HMR is accurate and hard hitting but the crack is a little too harsh next to a silenced .22. I also like to eat my rabbits... its all well and good head going for head shots but it doesn't mean that where the round goes everytime and it fecks em up. Don't really rate them for night shooting as far too noisy and ammo is expensive. Good on corvoids as the buggers can't jump the shot as it goes too quickly. Good luck with the application

[Guest JohnGalway]

Ah, here we go again

 

I've shot both calibres. Using SAK moderators on both, unless you're deaf, the HMR is considerably louder than the .22lr. Let me illustrate the point, I brought out a HMR owning mate bunny shooting with my .22lr. He lined up on a rabbit 60 yards away, shot him dead, I walk over and he's muttering about a missfire... Quiet enough for ya? A HMR moderated by a SAK mod will be slightly quieter than a .22lr firing a high velocity shot unmoderated, in certain circumstances. A good description is sounding like a ruler slapped off a table top in a small room. The terrain does have a big effect on silenced rifles, some spots like open areas they will be quiet, if you're shooting towards something or are in a bowl etc they will be noisier.

 

Another thing about noise is that it's more often the bullet itself striking the, for arguments sake, rabbit that'll spook other rabbits rather than the noise of the shot being fired, in the case of the .22lr anyway.

 

What will you be shooting? .22lr for bunnies to or so yards, HMR for further.

 

The advantages of the HMR are longer range, flatter trajectory, less chance of ricochet. The cons of it are it's noisier, and more expensive to shoot.

 

The advantages of the .22lr are it's cheap as hell to run and very quiet. The cons are that it ricochets (a lot), it has less range and the bullet drops considerably.

 

HMR is an accurate calibre, but so is the .22lr in the right hands, out to 100 yards. I've heard people tell of the groups they get with HMR at 100 yards, I could beat it with my .22lr. .22lr will fare better in the wind.

 

Both do have their uses and both are fun to shoot. I may swop my .22lr for a HMR later or next year as I wanted a rimfire mainly for shooting grounded greycrows and magpies, a HMR is a better calibre for this than the .22lr IMO.

 

Neither of them are fox calibres. They'll both take foxes and I've brain shot foxes with my .22lr out to yards, with HMR there is a chance of splash wounds on foxes.

 

Whatever you get, try plenty of brands of ammo and use the most accurate in your rifle. For my Sako Quad .22lr that is Eley subsonics, for others it's Winchester subsonics, I've found and heard in .22lr that subs are more accurate than HV's, all the firepower in the world won't help if the target doesn't get hit

 

Hope that helps, good luck with the new rifle(s)