Strange Bop???????

[Lab 10,979]

f**k off...... Lol

No point in me breaking the law nowadays folks the BOPs can't get in so they are free to do what they like.

On the point of keepers controlling numbers it should be a must. Whether they get licenses or whatever the numbers, especially of Buzzards are on the increase so they need thinning out.

[alimac 882]

 

 

 

 

Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly!

Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before

Goshawks do not hunt at night

accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight

totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel

Well that's utter pish, goshawks will visit a pen full of poults, swoop in & nail one, it will then take to its feet and chase and catch alot more than the first one it landed on, there as deadly on there feet as they are on the wing.

[pip1968 2,490]

 

 

 

 

 

Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly!

Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before

Goshawks do not hunt at night

accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight

totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel

Well that's utter pish, goshawks will visit a pen full of poults, swoop in & nail one, it will then take to its feet and chase and catch alot more than the first one it landed on, there as deadly on there feet as they are on the wing.

 

your spot on mate ive just googled it and found this goshawks sometimes cache prey on tree branches or wedged in a crotch between branches for up to 32 hours. This is done primarily during the nestling stage

[alimac 882]

You've got to admire there ability as a hunter.. If a buzzard visited, the poults would be bunched up in a corner or similar but there was only 1 thing that made a pen of 1000 birds vanish for the rest of the day, most I had killed in one sitting was just short of 30..

[Lab 10,979]

You've got to admire there ability as a hunter.. If a buzzard visited, the poults would be bunched up in a corner or similar but there was only 1 thing that made a pen of 1000 birds vanish for the rest of the day, most I had killed in one sitting was just short of 30..

Thats why all pheasant pens imo should have a Rhody' bush in them, the bigger the better...........

[RubyTex 1,957]

I once asked a " Head Keeper " about some certain Juby Traps. He said; " What's a 'Juby Trap'?! " And, right there, I saw what the Game Keeping world had come to.

 

Now, we have hawks which fly by night? Birds which " smash " poults. And kill 150 of them, after dark, with a " Nip to the back of the neck ".

 

What? And then wing it off into the darkness? Giggling and flipping the feather at the Keeper, I s'pose. All in a nights fun for your typical Goshawk.

 

FFS. I expect is that same, learned and seasoned (Plastic) Head Keeper found a round blanket of feathers and a couple of bits of bloody bone, he'd nod his head sagely and intone, " Bloody ferret, lad! ".

 

 

Just been checking through and seen this little outburst, very strange obviously you seem to know your stuff regarding BOPs, but were you there with us, deep in the forestry of Southern Belgium? Did you witness the devastation with your own eyes...? No. You can't call someone 'plastic' because they dare have an opinion that you don't agree with, we had undertaken an extensive predator control scheme in the weeks prior to the birds arriving so the fox, stoat and stone marten population had taken a hammering and it is unlikely to be any of them, although you can't rule it out.

 

We put the birds to wood at around 8am on the Thursday morning, going back to check up on them at around 8pm, checking the perimeter fencing plus drinkers and feeders. No dead poults at that time. The next morning, 5am, it was time for feeding up. Hooked the trailer on the back of the quad, filled it and away we went....to find dead poults all over the floor with a nip on the back of their necks. The Head immediately said "that's the work of a Gos that" and sure enough that night when we sat out, a pair flew towards the pen and landed in the trees. Either a massive massive coincidence or he was correct in what he said??

 

Who are you to question the credibility of the Head Keeper, or even mine? A bit of BOP knowledge does not lend you to label people 'plastic' just because they have a correct opinion that you don't like

[RubyTex 1,957]

 

 

 

 

 

Goshawks . . . . . lucky lucky you! They make the buzzards look pheasant friendly!

Yep!!!! Good luck with that one Lab when i was away a pair killed 150+ poults in one night, absolutely smashed 'em...the b*****ds soon flew away though.......... I thought Buzzards were more scavengers than active hunters? Suppose if they're hungry, just never seen one on the hunt before

Goshawks do not hunt at night

accipiters will hunt dusk and dawn like most predators, however don't be fooled into thinking that birds don't fly at night because 100% they can and do. A goshawk will kill,feed then rest up. there not like ferrets and cats that kill for pleasure as well as food. Another thing about goshawks is, if they take up residence you will not get any more trouble from either sparrowhawks or tawny owls as the will kill then on sight

totally agree with that paulus,a bird of prey would never just kill for fun like some vermin ie stoat weasel

Well that's utter pish, goshawks will visit a pen full of poults, swoop in & nail one, it will then take to its feet and chase and catch alot more than the first one it landed on, there as deadly on there feet as they are on the wing.

 

 

Don't tell Outlaw Pete that he'll have a fit thank f**k there's a 'keeper who's seen it first hand who can weigh in on the argument

[Lab 10,979]

 

I once asked a " Head Keeper " about some certain Juby Traps. He said; " What's a 'Juby Trap'?! " And, right there, I saw what the Game Keeping world had come to.

 

Now, we have hawks which fly by night? Birds which " smash " poults. And kill 150 of them, after dark, with a " Nip to the back of the neck ".

 

What? And then wing it off into the darkness? Giggling and flipping the feather at the Keeper, I s'pose. All in a nights fun for your typical Goshawk.

 

FFS. I expect is that same, learned and seasoned (Plastic) Head Keeper found a round blanket of feathers and a couple of bits of bloody bone, he'd nod his head sagely and intone, " Bloody ferret, lad! ".

 

 

Just been checking through and seen this little outburst, very strange obviously you seem to know your stuff regarding BOPs, but were you there with us, deep in the forestry of Southern Belgium? Did you witness the devastation with your own eyes...? No. You can't call someone 'plastic' because they dare have an opinion that you don't agree with, we had undertaken an extensive predator control scheme in the weeks prior to the birds arriving so the fox, stoat and stone marten population had taken a hammering and it is unlikely to be any of them, although you can't rule it out.

 

We put the birds to wood at around 8am on the Thursday morning, going back to check up on them at around 8pm, checking the perimeter fencing plus drinkers and feeders. No dead poults at that time. The next morning, 5am, it was time for feeding up. Hooked the trailer on the back of the quad, filled it and away we went....to find dead poults all over the floor with a nip on the back of their necks. The Head immediately said "that's the work of a Gos that" and sure enough that night when we sat out, a pair flew towards the pen and landed in the trees. Either a massive massive coincidence or he was correct in what he said??

 

Who are you to question the credibility of the Head Keeper, or even mine? A bit of BOP knowledge does not lend you to label people 'plastic' just because they have a correct opinion that you don't like

 

Suppose we will never know for sure but id have bet my bottom dollar that was an owl or 2?..

[RubyTex 1,957]

Twit-twoo, Lab, twit-twoo

[alimac 882]

A rhody bush!!, as wilf would say, lol lol lol, trust me there ain't no cover good enough or thick enough to stop them killing once there on the floor chasing your poults, I can hand on heart say I'd not think twice if I had the choice of A/ a breeding pair of goshawks working my estate or B/ 30 pairs of buzzards.

[Lab 10,979]

A rhody bush!!, as wilf would say, lol lol lol, trust me there ain't no cover good enough or thick enough to stop them killing once there on the floor chasing your poults, I can hand on heart say I'd not think twice if I had the choice of A/ a breeding pair of goshawks working my estate or B/ 30 pairs of buzzards.

I kinda ment for Buzzards and Spars which are the main threat about here mate.............Goshawks i have no knowledge on.....thank f**k by the sounds of it....

[stewie 3,387]

A rhody bush!!, as wilf would say, lol lol lol, trust me there ain't no cover good enough or thick enough to stop them killing once there on the floor chasing your poults, I can hand on heart say I'd not think twice if I had the choice of A/ a breeding pair of goshawks working my estate or B/ 30 pairs of buzzards.

i went out with a mate and his goshawk once after pheasants.............as soon as they hit the cover they were lost as in my mates words "they are quicker on the hoof"...........these were adult birds mind..........

[alimac 882]

 

A rhody bush!!, as wilf would say, lol lol lol, trust me there ain't no cover good enough or thick enough to stop them killing once there on the floor chasing your poults, I can hand on heart say I'd not think twice if I had the choice of A/ a breeding pair of goshawks working my estate or B/ 30 pairs of buzzards.

i went out with a mate and his goshawk once after pheasants.............as soon as they hit the cover they were lost as in my mates words "they are quicker on the hoof"...........these were adult birds mind..........

Tell your mate to take you up to fife, find a certain rearing field snip the net pop it in & you'll see what I mean, watch for the owner mind you know what them fifers are like, afa tight

Only ever saw one flying a adult bird, and that was one flushed on a driven day, the cock bird thought he was clever missing the gun line, until he saw the gos behind him, the fecker evaded that too :-) would love to spend a day watching them being flown on game.

[WILF 48,382]

Ali, empty your inbox ya fanny

[stewie 3,387]

 

 

A rhody bush!!, as wilf would say, lol lol lol, trust me there ain't no cover good enough or thick enough to stop them killing once there on the floor chasing your poults, I can hand on heart say I'd not think twice if I had the choice of A/ a breeding pair of goshawks working my estate or B/ 30 pairs of buzzards.

i went out with a mate and his goshawk once after pheasants.............as soon as they hit the cover they were lost as in my mates words "they are quicker on the hoof"...........these were adult birds mind..........

Tell your mate to take you up to fife, find a certain rearing field snip the net pop it in & you'll see what I mean, watch for the owner mind you know what them fifers are like, afa tight

Only ever saw one flying a adult bird, and that was one flushed on a driven day, the cock bird thought he was clever missing the gun line, until he saw the gos behind him, the fecker evaded that too :-) would love to spend a day watching them being flown on game.

 

yeah i suppose poults would be a lot easier mate lol its good crack ali to be fair you get alot of flights that come to nothing but when it does come off it a great sight to see.........