clueless 11 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hi, I have recently read and been informed by a few people that pups should only have 5 minutes of excersise for every month there alive until they are fully developed terriers, small dogs about a year. If a dog needs proteins and calcium say for bone and muscle development if you just increased these amounts in your puppys feed surely he can be out longer????? I have owned a few dogs previosly to my terrier, large breed dogs, and dont feels ive had any health issuez related to bones and musclez but has anyone come across any health issues that have been put down to working your dog too hard too young. Lke said never heard any of this stuff before but if you help your guy recover by feeding him that bit more of what hes losing should be fine shouldnt he.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,734 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Snozberries,vermicious knids you're off your flaming rocker you wonka! I thought I could take the fruit until I read this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hi, I have recently read and been informed by a few people that pups should only have 5 minutes of excersise for every month there alive until they are fully developed terriers, small dogs about a year. If a dog needs proteins and calcium say for bone and muscle development if you just increased these amounts in your puppys feed surely he can be out longer????? I have owned a few dogs previosly to my terrier, large breed dogs, and dont feels ive had any health issuez related to bones and musclez but has anyone come across any health issues that have been put down to working your dog too hard too young. Lke said never heard any of this stuff before but if you help your guy recover by feeding him that bit more of what hes losing should be fine shouldnt he.... It is 5mins per month exercise when the pup is on a lead. It's termed as forced exercise. A pup will bound about and play for longer periods when left to its own devices and will rest when tired. Excessive impact can have a detrimental effect on the skeletal and physiologcal structure of the pup just as it does with every young of any spcecies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Im sure Penny taylor wont mind me quoting her book Running dog Maintenance where she says its not a good idea to take a youngster of less than 6 months, out more than half an hours exercise at any one time. A couple of half hour walks per day is absolutely fine for most pups. Providing it doesn't spend its entire time chasing about after adult dogs. You shouldn't let pups keep on galloping straining every part of their immature body in an attempt to catch anything on four legs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chook1 184 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 The 5 mins per month thing is for when lead walking on hard ground, ie pavements Its the repetitive forced movement on the leash and on hard surfaces that causes the joint issues, free running walks can be longer as its normally on softer surfaces and the pup can self regulate, would advise small brakes whilst out though, sitting down for a few mins to give the pup chance to rest if it wished. Mine have gone on longer walks free running/playing, none ever had joint issues even till the day they were pts due to age/illness, current pup when walked has been out upwards of an hour and still had energy after the walk, i go off how the pup is - if it needs to be carried home then its way to much. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 11 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 thats how i used to thinks if he needs carrying its too far, but , ii was out for nearly 2 hours along bank of river then bk along canal he was not lagging at all and we got home and he charged around for half hour i think ill leave off that far for a few more months yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 not reading mate ,.your clueless .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 its all common sence dont overdue i.t early doors. some hunters on ere do too much too early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,189 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) seven month beddy/whippet of mine,does 4/5/6..chicken wings a day ..plus kibble..out twice a day,afternoon on bike..8/10 mile a day..and up to three hours exersize..comes home and play fights the alsation..... is this to much.. what age will he break down...... honest answers... thanks.... Edited May 28, 2013 by byron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Personally I wouldn't be biking a pup until it is around 11-12 months old, and even then, not for 8/10 miles. Having said that, if you are biking cross country on grass land and earth tracks at a slow speed, and stopping every now and again to give the pup a break, that wouldn't be the same as biking at a fast trot (for the dog that is) on hard tarmac or concrete. It is the sustained and regular speed when trotting beside a bike that builds up stamina, tendon, muscle and joint strength, all of which is not only unnecessary for a pup but may cause skeletal damage if done too much and too long on hard ground. And having said ALL that ... ... I'm not about to try and set it in stone that it WILL definitely cause damage. Small dogs mature a lot earlier than bigger dogs, and good working bred stock is tougher than we humans can imagine. I've seen more pups damaged through letting them hunt like lunatics in the company of adult dogs than I have those which go out for long walks where the speed and type of exercise is restricted by a sensible owner. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 11 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 anyone know how to change my username questions being answered by (you truly are clueless and shite like that.. if you aint got owt productive dnt bother we r on here for the same thing aint we "working dogs" and we wanna look after em right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,189 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 first,, not trying to hijack original thread... skycat,,,i should have explained better.. pup does not run 8/10 miles on bike...goes out in morn with alsation,,on grass/dust tracks walking,play fighting etc..and plenty of fag breaks..then t/time does approx four mile on tarmac on bike.. thanks for reply... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 anyone know how to change my username questions being answered by (you truly are clueless and shite like that.. if you aint got owt productive dnt bother we r on here for the same thing aint we "working dogs" and we wanna look after em right. join the club im a ponce because I got whippets..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I recon a good dose of common sense is the key, sensible exercise helps the body develop good biomechanics/structure, over doing it cause injuries/breakdown. In an ideal world it's best is rear your pups in pairs or more in a big paddock where they can exercise just as much as they wish. If, as most, you can’t do this try to recreate this with plenty of short walks so they run about but don’t get so excited at being out they over do it, if only walked once or twice a day they get all excited and over do it which is when little injuries occur. In truth whilst young its about socialisation etc not exercise so forget forced walks or biking etc just potter about, let the pup investigate and learn, you can be out for a couple of hours if the pups is pottering and it won’t over tire itself but twenty minutes on a bike will wipe it out. And if time is short twenty minutes out mooching is better than any amount of running by a bike whilst they are pups. As they mature increase the length and reduce the number, once over 6 months for small types you can gradually begin to add in more formal exercise type training but in reality that’s more about keeping adults fit as they don’t need to learn the field craft so exercise can be condensed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Personally I wouldn't be biking a pup until it is around 11-12 months old, and even then, not for 8/10 miles. Having said that, if you are biking cross country on grass land and earth tracks at a slow speed, and stopping every now and again to give the pup a break, that wouldn't be the same as biking at a fast trot (for the dog that is) on hard tarmac or concrete. It is the sustained and regular speed when trotting beside a bike that builds up stamina, tendon, muscle and joint strength, all of which is not only unnecessary for a pup but may cause skeletal damage if done too much and too long on hard ground. And having said ALL that ... ... I'm not about to try and set it in stone that it WILL definitely cause damage. Small dogs mature a lot earlier than bigger dogs, and good working bred stock is tougher than we humans can imagine. I've seen more pups damaged through letting them hunt like lunatics in the company of adult dogs than I have those which go out for long walks where the speed and type of exercise is restricted by a sensible owner. Penny put the conditioning chapter from her book up here somewhere a while ago...I read it and thoroughly enjoyed it...lots of good sensible advice... Biking dogs is all well and good and is a great tool for getting them fit...but it's gotta be done sensibly...read a post a while ago from someone who I thought would know better...seemed pretty chuffed that he'd ran his 6 month old pup for 8 miles behind his quad at 12 miles per hour...that's just plain stupid...reckoned it was a good indication of his pup's fitness...I thought it was an indication of his stupidity... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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