Guest ragumup Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Islams been at war with the west long before these wars we are daral har (can't spell it ) but it means house of war... the only difference now is they have petrol dollars which is funding it all Edited May 27, 2013 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,120 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Islams been at war with the west long before these wars we are daral har (can't spell it ) but it means house of war... the only difference now is they have petrol dollars which is funding it all They had petrol dollars before mate but they had the likes of Saddam, Gadaffi etc to keep a lid on things.....sure there was random acts of terror and obviously this radicalisation has been happening for a generation.....but once you start removing leaders of these countries then all bets are off.......any potential leader will only rule in an Arab way so to me, if he thinks the west won't let him do that then it makes sense to just back the fight against the west rather than get a lid on your own people. Libya wasn't really a threat any more until we decided to remove Gaddaffi....now, it's a mish mash of factions all killing each other and hating the west because their country has gone to shit Same as Egypt, where there was once control, now it's a free for all, again the west will end up getting the blame When you have a mad dog, it don't make a lot of sense to keep hitting it with a stick ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Syria is next...do our politicians think we are that stupid that we don't know that they are funding the exact same people who were attacking our troops in Iraq? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,120 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Syria is next...do our politicians think we are that stupid that we don't know that they are funding the exact same people who were attacking our troops in Iraq? We should be helping the Syrian government put their people back in their box ASAP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 you'd think we'd learn, how long will it be before they're pointing the weapons we're going to give them back at us? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22684948 It's already been well reported that a load of foreign Jihadists have flocked there to fight the government with the rebels, great idea arming them eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I couldn't agree more but they are an ally of Iran and the west has had a hard on for them for years. Iran is supplying all the weapons to Syria....Syria supply Hezbollah...Hezbollah attack Israel We don't need to give the Syrians any money or weapons because they are hammering the so called FSA. We just need to leave them to it. Watcha few videos and take a look at the weaponry...all paid for by the US/UK and supplied via Turkey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,120 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I have sat and had conversations about this with one of my best pals, he has two tours of Afghan under his belt with 16AA He said to me one night " I wouldn't like to think it was for nothing" My reply was this, " it wasn't for nothing mate, you got given a job by the government and like our lads always do, you went there and did that job to the very best of your ability, acquitted yourselves well, kept your mates alive and showed the world what the best soldiers in the world can do.....you did your job...........that means something" There's not a single man in Westminster fit to lace our armed forces boots, I don't know of a single person who was ever not 100% behind our troops but I know plenty that could never figure out why we put these lads in harms way in some far off piss hole with no clear objective and made them do it with one hand tied behind their back. Unless another country openly attacks us then leave our lads at home and let the shady lot get on with it....JMHO 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I have sat and had conversations about this with one of my best pals, he has two tours of Afghan under his belt with 16AA He said to me one night " I wouldn't like to think it was for nothing" My reply was this, " it wasn't for nothing mate, you got given a job by the government and like our lads always do, you went there and did that job to the very best of your ability, acquitted yourselves well, kept your mates alive and showed the world what the best soldiers in the world can do.....you did your job...........that means something" There's not a single man in Westminster fit to lace our armed forces boots, I don't know of a single person who was ever not 100% behind our troops but I know plenty that could never figure out why we put these lads in harms way in some far off piss hole with no clear objective and made them do it with one hand tied behind their back. Unless another country openly attacks us then leave our lads at home and let the shady lot get on with it....JMHO i begrudgingly liked that wilf......... well said!!!......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Most soldiers talk about their worst fear is to let their mates down (not the government) so they pretty much always succeed. The 'mission' comes second to that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pianoman 3,587 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I just bloody knew it would only be a question of time before this mongrel religion would be scrawled on the Bomber Command Memorial. The majority of Bomber command operations flew from bases in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. That's where this memorial should have been sited, in the middle of Lincolnshire, away from the middle of London, where this Islamic scum and filth reside like a colony. The era the memorial represents has long, long passed for the people of the capital. How far are we gonna be pushed before we start seriously fighting back under provocation like this? What's it going to take before we say enough is enough? Another murdered British citizen? Another act of desecration of our history, our monuments of respect for our fallen in honourable battle? I don't want to get into a ruck with anybody here, I don't have a beef with anyone. I am a bit forthright in what I say sometimes. But what exactly is our place in this country now? We are being systematically outlawed for open display of any patriotic or Christian symbols we are proud to wear "For FEAR of causing offence" Fear is the operative word here. Offence? OFFENCE TO WHO EXACTLY?? WHO IS LEADING AND INTERNING THIS HANDWRINGING, OBSEQUIOUS, HUMBLING OBEDIENCE AGAINST THE FEAR OF OFFENDING THIS BACKWARD, INHUMAN FAITH THAT WANTS TO DESTROY US??? Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 We have to stand our ground, not be drawn in to pointless fights/riots, keep voting for UKIP and keep voicing our opinion in the right way which is none violent! We can change this country but not by apathy or voting red/blue/yellow In fact the worst crime is not to vote.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 We have to stand our ground, not be drawn in to pointless fights/riots, keep voting for UKIP and keep voicing our opinion in the right way which is none violent! We can change this country but not by apathy or voting red/blue/yellow In fact the worst crime is not to vote.... How's that then? You lot have voted all your adult lives and look where we are!!! Your that brainwashed you'll continue to vote these morons who don't give a f**k for us for the rest of your life and still blame us who refuse to be part of their greedy game. Ukip, EDL, they might talk the talk but so have the rest at some point and you've swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Have you ever voted anyone and they've got in power? Did they make a difference? Obviously not now your voting with blind faith....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 We have to stand our ground, not be drawn in to pointless fights/riots, keep voting for UKIP and keep voicing our opinion in the right way which is none violent! We can change this country but not by apathy or voting red/blue/yellow In fact the worst crime is not to vote.... How's that then? You lot have voted all your adult lives and look where we are!!! Your that brainwashed you'll continue to vote these morons who don't give a f**k for us for the rest of your life and still blame us who refuse to be part of their greedy game. Ukip, EDL, they might talk the talk but so have the rest at some point and you've swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Have you ever voted anyone and they've got in power? Did they make a difference? Obviously not now your voting with blind faith....... good post.everybody should refuse to turn out at voting time show them up to the world.ukip wont do nothing once they get the cushy jobs.its called ruling by fooling . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 We have to stand our ground, not be drawn in to pointless fights/riots, keep voting for UKIP and keep voicing our opinion in the right way which is none violent! We can change this country but not by apathy or voting red/blue/yellow In fact the worst crime is not to vote.... How's that then? You lot have voted all your adult lives and look where we are!!! Your that brainwashed you'll continue to vote these morons who don't give a f**k for us for the rest of your life and still blame us who refuse to be part of their greedy game. Ukip, EDL, they might talk the talk but so have the rest at some point and you've swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Have you ever voted anyone and they've got in power? Did they make a difference? Obviously not now your voting with blind faith....... good post.everybody should refuse to turn out at voting time show them up to the world.ukip wont do nothing once they get the cushy jobs.its called ruling by fooling . Well I think/hope it really is different this time.....get all you know to vote ukip ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Not voting has to be madness because you canl be sure the tribes will be. A few more elections and we'll have muslim parties ruling certain areas. Then a muslim PM a few years down the line. It doesn't bear thinking about. I want my grandkids to be British and proud of it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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