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aye the west have used them like pawns on a chess board for years. I understand the distrust they have for us.still no excuse for british born and the british raised of them plotting us harm.want to object or fight the west,then by all means do so.just renounce your british citizenship and f**k off over to the land of the tribes embrace the laws of islam and its f*****g culture.i bet a lot of them would soon change there f*****g tune.

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Half the trouble is we no longer understand the Arab/ Muslim world......we think they should be like us which they don't want to be Now in the days of the empire we understood them well, we befriende

I have sat and had conversations about this with one of my best pals, he has two tours of Afghan under his belt with 16AA   He said to me one night " I wouldn't like to think it was for nothing"  

no vote means no goverment?does it! they would just keep tossing a coin till they got through all the seats, oh i certainly do not consider myself brainwashed cause i choose to vote. ridiculous statem

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Half the trouble is we no longer understand the Arab/ Muslim world......we think they should be like us which they don't want to be

Now in the days of the empire we understood them well, we befriended the bloke at the top and made sure he was well looked after and he kept the rest in line

 

See, from what I can see of it, in the Arab / Muslim world the bloke at the top has a big stick and he uses it to keep everybody underneath him in line until he dies or someone with a bigger stick comes along......it has worked well for thousands of years, they are comfortable with the system and it works

 

Now all of a sudden, western do gooder politicians want to rock over to these places and start trying to westernise them and they don't want it, they think many of our ways are vulgar

 

But no, we think we can change all that by fetching them over in droves and invading their countries......it's a no win IMHO

 

The politicians can play the politically correct do gooder while our lads pay for the previllage with their blood

 

The sooner we can all feel comfortable with just saying " people are different so lets leave them alone" then the sooner the cream of our young people can stop dieing !!!

 

If you want to live in the west then you behave as a westerner and if you want to live in a Muslim country then you behave according to their tradition......not this one size fits all world view JMHO

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Half the trouble is we no longer understand the Arab/ Muslim world......we think they should be like us which they don't want to be

Now in the days of the empire we understood them well, we befriended the bloke at the top and made sure he was well looked after and he kept the rest in line

 

See, from what I can see of it, in the Arab / Muslim world the bloke at the top has a big stick and he uses it to keep everybody underneath him in line until he dies or someone with a bigger stick comes along......it has worked well for thousands of years, they are comfortable with the system and it works

 

Now all of a sudden, western do gooder politicians want to rock over to these places and start trying to westernise them and they don't want it, they think many of our ways are vulgar

 

But no, we think we can change all that by fetching them over in droves and invading their countries......it's a no win IMHO

 

The politicians can play the politically correct do gooder while our lads pay for the previllage with their blood

 

The sooner we can all feel comfortable with just saying " people are different so lets leave them alone" then the sooner the cream of our young people can stop dieing !!!

 

If you want to live in the west then you behave as a westerner and if you want to live in a Muslim country then you behave according to their tradition......not this one size fits all world view JMHO

our church went through the reformation about roughly 500 years ago and ancient customs were abolished, like the slaying of non believers, Islam need to catch up and denounce violence. simple as :thumbs:

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The current afghan conflict began as purely a hunt for bin laden and the terrorist closest to him, then a bit of smoke and mirrors later, it became freeing the afghan people ??......when did that happen?

 

So what if they didn't let women go to school, so what about anything else they did.....it's their bloody business and IMHO not worth one British life

 

As usual, the politicians didn't know how to get out of something they got into !!.....so lets just let a heap of young men and women die until we find the exit !!

 

They should have put Bush and Blair in the front line the gutless b*****ds........the politicians have bitten off more than they can chew with the Muslims, these people believe in something for a start and they are fanatical about it, in the west we believe in nothing as a people, everyone is fragmented.

 

Lets be honest, the politicians couldn't do what it would take to defeat these people and we would be outcast in the world.......the only time the Muslims got sorted in Europe was in the Balkans.......do we have the will for that?.....men, women and children ironed out en masse ?.....I doubt it.

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The current afghan conflict began as purely a hunt for bin laden and the terrorist closest to him, then a bit of smoke and mirrors later, it became freeing the afghan people ??......when did that happen?

So what if they didn't let women go to school, so what about anything else they did.....it's their bloody business and IMHO not worth one British life

As usual, the politicians didn't know how to get out of something they got into !!.....so lets just let a heap of young men and women die until we find the exit !!

They should have put Bush and Blair in the front line the gutless b*****ds........the politicians have bitten off more than they can chew with the Muslims, these people believe in something for a start and they are fanatical about it, in the west we believe in nothing as a people, everyone is fragmented.

Lets be honest, the politicians couldn't do what it would take to defeat these people and we would be outcast in the world.......the only time the Muslims got sorted in Europe was in the Balkans.......do we have the will for that?.....men, women and children ironed out en masse ?.....I doubt it.

. And no one in there right minds would want anything like that to happen
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The current afghan conflict began as purely a hunt for bin laden and the terrorist closest to him, then a bit of smoke and mirrors later, it became freeing the afghan people ??......when did that happen?

So what if they didn't let women go to school, so what about anything else they did.....it's their bloody business and IMHO not worth one British life

As usual, the politicians didn't know how to get out of something they got into !!.....so lets just let a heap of young men and women die until we find the exit !!

They should have put Bush and Blair in the front line the gutless b*****ds........the politicians have bitten off more than they can chew with the Muslims, these people believe in something for a start and they are fanatical about it, in the west we believe in nothing as a people, everyone is fragmented.

Lets be honest, the politicians couldn't do what it would take to defeat these people and we would be outcast in the world.......the only time the Muslims got sorted in Europe was in the Balkans.......do we have the will for that?.....men, women and children ironed out en masse ?.....I doubt it.

. And no one in there right minds would want anything like that to happen

 

but we are not dealing with people in their right minds , I keep saying it and will say it again ,...........this place will turn into another Bosnia in not many years

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There a full scale witch hunt every time a stray bit of shrapnel hits a non combatant in some far off war zone, we are talking about lining up men, women and kids in Thetford forest !!.......I don't think so........certainly not my cup of tea.

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Thats true hatred wilf.and i suspect a bit unstable to start with.you also find those pulling the actual trigger,are normally under the influence of something.

but you would need to have born there to trully understand it.wonder how many of the brit muzzies with there desire to defend islam would go and face the serbs if it kicked of again lol no many i reckon hahah

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It's like Iraq, old Bush senior was no idiot.....he left Saddam in charge for a reason......but no, his idiot son has to go and interfere (with his lap dog Blair) and turf Saddam out.....result ?........hundreds of thousands dead.....I will bet much more than Saddam killed.

 

And so what, if he wanted to kill his own people then we should have let him get on with it......it not affecting us

 

But no, you get a couple of ex- student activists think they can completely change the Muslim world !!!..........now don't get me wrong, they should hang that wog and his mate from London bridge with piano wire for what they did to that soldier but in a lot of ways he was bang on the money when he said " this is your politicians responsibility " because it is !!!

 

They have picked a fight they can't win and worst of all, they have clearly shown the Muslim world the extent of our weakness because we care about life and they don't !

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It's like Iraq, old Bush senior was no idiot.....he left Saddam in charge for a reason......but no, his idiot son has to go and interfere (with his lap dog Blair) and turf Saddam out.....result ?........hundreds of thousands dead.....I will bet much more than Saddam killed.

 

And so what, if he wanted to kill his own people then we should have let him get on with it......it not affecting us

 

But no, you get a couple of ex- student activists think they can completely change the Muslim world !!!..........now don't get me wrong, they should hang that wog and his mate from London bridge with piano wire for what they did to that soldier but in a lot of ways he was bang on the money when he said " this is your politicians responsibility " because it is !!!

 

They have picked a fight they can't win and worst of all, they have clearly shown the Muslim world the extent of our weakness because we care about life and they don't !

spot on the money

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