Jesslurcher 25 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 She has a good bit of collie in her, if tried her with another dog around and without it doesn't really matter. She will retrieve if we're in a narrow place but as soon as she gets to you she will drop it at your feet, I'd rather she would wait til I took it off her though... Quote Link to post
Jesslurcher 25 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Her recall is great,she'll come back everytime I call her, just not when she has something in her mouth lol Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Do as your doing, just you and her one on one in a narrow place, try turning your back as she comes in.see if she will follow you and come in or still drop the dummy short. I don't think your far off getting her right. Quote Link to post
LaraCroft 863 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 One of my collie crosses went through a teenager phase of not wanting to either recall, or retrieve - would grab whatever it was, then dance around just out of reach....very irritating ! He also wasn't that food orientated, which didn't help. I was advised to get a squeeky ball, and use whatever food treat the dog liked best ( cooked liver in his case ) and give him the ball to "mouth" while keeping hold of it, and then ask to "give" (or whatever command you are going to use) and shove a piece of liver in front of his nose. Just a few times a day, no actual throwing, just the practice - then letting him hold it in his mouth and drop for the treat etc - soon, he dropped it as soon as I asked - and it wasn't hard to link recall and drop. Good luck - not easy with pups who are learning the ropes. Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Collie cross teenagers... Keep hearing this, I must have been lucky in the past. This time next year Rodney... Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I had a 3/4 bred collie x greyhound almost 30 years ago and he was excellent until he was 9 months old and turned into a complete c**t overnight...this phase lasted 2 months and in that time I almost had a nervous breakdown over the twat...I was a young lad at the time and the guy who bred the pup told me to ignore it...and not to rise to the dog's antics...I took this advice and all was well...dogs, just like children can take the piss and see how far they can push us...chill out and don't get into and argument with the pup...mine's ended up being the best I have ever had... 3 Quote Link to post
paulf 820 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 my pup went through it too i call it the b*****d phase ,she wouldnt retreive ,her recall was non existent so likes been said went back to basics and didnt lose heart in the bitch .shes coming on a treat now i havnt shown her any game untill im 100% happy with her training, stock breakings going great so im very happy so far .. Quote Link to post
gouldy257 79 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I've had the same problem with my pointer pup,, but yet an all if i throw her a dead wood cock or bird she straight back to me with it so hope she keeps that bit up anyway try get a rabbit for your pup or skin one and wrap it round your dummy when she gets the game taste maybe she'll be different when she realizes its not a toy and she wont make it in to a game ATB Mate Quote Link to post
Jesslurcher 25 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Hope this doesn't last long well or I think I'll lose the plot lol. After me singing her praises saying how great she was too, well she hasn't lost the recall and she's been broke to horses, she's also jumping well so alls not so bad Edited May 27, 2013 by Jesslurcher Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 ALRIGHT TROOPS. DOES ANYBODY ON THIS THREAD ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT. 1 Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Hope this doesn't last long well or I think I'll lose the plot lol. After me singing her praises saying how great she was too, well she hasn't lost the recall and she's been broke to horses, was planning on trying her round sheep some time soon too PM .PAL. Quote Link to post
Jesslurcher 25 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Thanks for all the advice folks Edited May 27, 2013 by Jesslurcher Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 best way to retrieve train is to engage the pup in a game that is SELF rewarding: in other words, the dog retrieves back to you because it knows that once it gets the item/toy/dummy in your hand it gets to play tug with it, which is one of the most rewarding things a dog can do as it satisfies its instincts to grab and pull on something. Dogs are 'mouth orientated', which means that getting their jaws round something and lugging on it fulfils those instincts. Of course the game has to be strictly under your control, which is why you must train the game backwards, starting with the give or leave. I've sent you a pm. Quote Link to post
jamesmc 582 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 ALRIGHT TROOPS. DOES ANYBODY ON THIS THREAD ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT. you on eh drink last night a take it.....ya wind up merchant....lol.. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 ALRIGHT TROOPS. DOES ANYBODY ON THIS THREAD ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT. well lets hear your advice ? 2 Quote Link to post
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