Feeding Time

[lad101 57]

how much meat do you feed your lurcher pups? and what meat will be best? which dog biscuits would be best? right now i feed awkwright chicken. thinking about getting alpha one any advice please?

[paulus 26]

how much meat do you feed your lurcher pups? and what meat will be best? which dog biscuits would be best? right now i feed awkwright chicken. thinking about getting alpha one any advice please?

I wouldn't feed a pup awkrights unless it was mixed with raw meat, if your going to feed dried food then get one specifically designed for puppies. Australian do a good puppy mix

[lad101 57]

cheers mate il ave a look round for best puppy mixes mate how much meat should i be feeding her?

[paulus 26]

cheers mate il ave a look round for best puppy mixes mate how much meat should i be feeding her?

If she`s a pup. I feed whatever she will eat three times a day. Reducing this to twice a day at 6 months and then once a day at twelve months

[lad101 57]

6 and half she is so twice a day be good then

[BIGLURKS 874]

I find beta puppy for the first 12 months works well and od lamb ribs and calve legs venison ribs works well for me

[Country Joe 1,411]

Although a lot do it, without any negatives if your using a good puppy meal, most are 28, 29 % protein, so i watch how much meat you are adding.

im currently using Gain greyhound Puppy and Sapling 29% all im adding is Goat milk.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Although a lot do it, without any negatives if your using a good puppy meal, most are 28, 29 % protein, so i watch how much meat you are adding.

im currently using Gain greyhound Puppy and Sapling 29% all im adding is Goat milk.

Alot of people say this, but unless I am missing the point then what's the problem?

 

Your not increasing the protein % because meat is not "pure protein". It is about 25% protein depending on what meat.

 

So if you are feeding 28% complete and adding meat then the protein % isn't really changing.

 

I can understand people wanting to them add more carbs or veg to balance it out but then you are actually reducing the protein.

 

A meal of meat, veg and pasta might only be 10% protein.

 

I'm currently feeding 50% dry complete (28% protein) and 50% raw meat and they are doing well on it.

 

Atb. Gaz.

[Country Joe 1,411]

 

Although a lot do it, without any negatives if your using a good puppy meal, most are 28, 29 % protein, so i watch how much meat you are adding.

im currently using Gain greyhound Puppy and Sapling 29% all im adding is Goat milk.

Alot of people say this, but unless I am missing the point then what's the problem?

 

Your not increasing the protein % because meat is not "pure protein". It is about 25% protein depending on what meat.

 

So if you are feeding 28% complete and adding meat then the protein % isn't really changing.

 

I can understand people wanting to them add more carbs or veg to balance it out but then you are actually reducing the protein.

 

A meal of meat, veg and pasta might only be 10% protein.

 

I'm currently feeding 50% dry complete (28% protein) and 50% raw meat and they are doing well on it.

 

Atb. Gaz.

I dont know enough on this subject, perhaps Skycat and Sandymere would wish to comment. on adding meat raw, or cooked to 29% protein puppy feed.

[robin hood 109]

its all opinions if you pup or adult dog looks in good condition then your feeding right,if its a bag of bones with a dull coat you then need to worry and ask opinions,everyone feeds different

[paulus 26]

What would a dog naturally eat Balance is a very appropriate word when it comes to feeding. Personally after trial and error I have found in the off season then a equal proportion of pasta and raw meat with added tinned tomatoes will surfice, however as the season starts then the meat content is increased and the pasta decreased to suit the condition of the dog.I also add a sprinkling of SF50 2 or 3 times a week.

[nottzhunter08 898]

I feed my pup raw chicken and lamb 4 times a day and offer her dry beta puppy feed during the day. She seems so be growing really well. Cheers

[Country Joe 1,411]

Some like myself can get into feeding regime too much, but to return to feeding meat on a 29% protein,

On the better feeds they always say not to add anything to the feed as this upsets the balance, now im no Animal Nutritionist as i also add scraps, but are these experts correct, or is it just a ploy, for you to use more of their feed?

[sandymere 8,263]

Bloody statistics now! lol. It all depends on how you choose to interpret the figures, if you have a complete with 28% protein but then add an equal amount of water to the bowl is it still 28% or 14%? Meat on average is about 75% water and 20% protein so if you take out the water its very high protein but low with it. Basically you shouldn’t compare a feed with water against one without.

I’d go for the common sense approach and consider the total protein in comparison to the fat and carbs, so if feeding a high protein complete don’t need to add a lot of meat, if wanting to add meat use a lower protein feed.

Completes will give all the proteins needed as will most meat so then its about fat and carbs which is a whole new subject.

In reality we all likely feed more protein than is required for pups and most adults unless you’re racing huskies over hundreds of miles.

 

Study

Protein in the Nutrition of the Growing Dog1

C. F. Gessert2 and P. H. Phillips

Department of Biochemistry, University of Wisconsin, Madison

The protein requirement for growth of young dogs was investigated by adding increments of casein to a basal diet which contained 10.6% of protein (N x 6.25), and was adequate in other nutrients. The other 4 diets contained 12.8, 15.0, 17.2 and 19.4% of crude protein respectively.

The basal diet sustained health and a retarded rate of growth in the young dogs. There was a correlation between the comparative gains in body weight and the comparative protein contents of the diets from 12.8 to 17.2% of protein, beyond which point there was no further increase in growth rate caused by additional protein. Since the diet containing 17.2% of protein was adequate for the growth of the pups, their requirements for the 10 essential amino acids apparently do not exceed the amounts that it contained.

The utilization of the basal diet was substantially improved by the addition of 2.5% of casein (2.2% "protein"), but more casein caused very little further improvement in this respect.

A 5 -month-old pup which had been very retarded in growth for 4 months by a protein deficiency was still able to grow at a normal rate when his dietary protein was raised to 17.2%.

[Country Joe 1,411]

When i was feeding raw my dog did well on this, i lowered the protein fed 1lb raw with Gain 20% veg, and a half scoop of minerals, this was for an adult Whippet.

When i fed raw rabbit in winter i added a knob of lard.