shepp 2,285 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I wonder if anybody can help. I feed my 6 month old pup tripe veg and mixer in the morning. Minced chicken i mince myself with veg and mixer for lunch and dinner plus vitamin powder with each meal. She seems healthy enough except she's very hyper active after eating the chicken, i guess this is a protein high. What can i feed with the chicken to get the protein level down becauser the veg and mixer don't seam to make any difference? Also is there anthing missing from her diet anyone can suggest adding? Thanks for any advice. Shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Shepp; We were discussing protein and such only last night, mate. " BlueCoyote " , or what ever it is, and her American Bulldogs? Anyway, all I could hand on heart say there was that, yes; Too much protein makes them hyper. What I couldn't say with any cited authority was my hunch that Fat may be the thing we're looking for. Like, please don't quote me on this but, isn't fat quite a differant ball game from protein? I understand Dogs utilise and benefit from it in a quite differant way than we can. I also believe it's said to give them energy ~ quite a differant thing, to my way of understanding, to 'Hyperactivity'. Anyway, looking at it with that out of the way; Yeppers. Fat would be one important ingrediant missing from ye stated diet there. Sorry to sound like a stuck record of an evangalist, but Breast of Lamb would provide fat, bone and flesh in near as damnit equel proportions. I only wonder why ye mincing it? Dogs jaws make the best mincers and doing that job for themselves maintanes their teeth and thus their health. Perhaps that'll help open up some more debate here for ye? Only I'm shattered and can't think much longer tonight, let alone type much else of any worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Yes thanks Ditch, yes I started reading that thread,then took the dog out for a couple of hours. I could'nt find it when I looked again for it the following day I think fat must be the answer so i'll go out tomorrow and search the local butcher shops untill i get lucky I agree with you Ditch, it must be a better way to let them chew the whole pieces of chicken instead of mince but when i tried her with wings she practically swallowed them whole . It just worries me that they wont break down enough and cause a blockage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hob&Jill 258 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 dont give your dog raw or cook chicken bones Thats a load of crap tbh mate Cooked chicken bones you cannot feed, RAW IS FINE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin 332 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Mine eat chicken bones(raw) as fast as I can shovel it into them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bill88 6 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 My beddyxwhippet has been eating raw since the day i got her (she was seven weeks old) majority of her diet is chicken wings and necks.Only raw bone on a chicken that might cause a problem,is the needle bone in the leg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyboy1 2 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Feed raw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
potstillgold 2 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Shepp, What type of dog is it we're talking about? Is it a Border Collie or cross thereof? Certainly you should manage the diet to the dog and it's excercise levels. One diet does not fit all! It may be that you are making life a little more complicated than need be. Why not use a quality dry food? Your dog will get everything it needs, it's teeth won't tarter and won't suffer too many fluctuations in diet. Within the period 6-12 months the dog will build all the bone it is likely to have for it's life (only maintenance thereafter), so certainly the calcium from bones is great (bone builds bone) but you might need to watch the levels. A developing pup is in danger of getting too much protein, where mass is built before the joints are ready to take it even in lighter breeds. There is discussion of course but I would be very wary of giving more than 25% crude protein. As for the fats. Dogs need them as we do and like us it is important to balance saturated and unsaturated fats. Fish oils are the best so the odd grilled mackerel is a great source. DHA is absorbed by the brain in preference to EPA and stimulates the mechanisms of intelligence. You have to be wary of giving your dog human fish oil supplements since it contains vitamins the dog shouldn't have. In NZ, Royal Canin has DHA added to their products. We don't have it here. You should have a look at Burns range as the VET himself keeps collies. I personally wouldn't have thought that a young border collie needs the kind of diet you propose. It isn't a bulldog afterall. When he's a little older and bounding around the hills, then you can always get a dry food with higher protein levels and many of such come VAT free. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olly 0 Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 be careful feeding breast of lamd to a young dog. start with something a little easier to manage chicken wings have a good fat protien and bone ratio. I gave my Saluki X Grey 10 months old a medium sized lump a couple of weeks ago and she manged to swallow a big lump of bone. She then proceeded to puke the whole lot up accross the dining room (the wife was not amused) and was ill for a day or so. My older dog is fine with breast or lambs neck he takes his time to chew!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 1,857 Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'd definitely agree with the majority of the above. Ive raised my last two kelpie pups and am about to start raising a third (touch wood) on raw chicken wings. It takes them ages to eat a single one at first but now a tray full just goes down crunch, swallow, crunch, swallow...! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 This whole protein hysteria is just daft: it is perfectly normal for pups to go charging around after a meal: it's nothing to do with the amount of protein they have ONLY JUST EATEN: think about it! Food takes a few hours to be digested: not seconds!! Pups have a good old play when their stomachs are full and they are happy: they tear about for a while then collapse in a heap and sleep and digest, then wake up an hour or so later and do the same thing all over again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MOLLY Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 This whole protein hysteria is just daft: it is perfectly normal for pups to go charging around after a meal: it's nothing to do with the amount of protein they have ONLY JUST EATEN: think about it! Food takes a few hours to be digested: not seconds!!Pups have a good old play when their stomachs are full and they are happy: they tear about for a while then collapse in a heap and sleep and digest, then wake up an hour or so later and do the same thing all over again. At this precise moment i can agree 100% with that Sky. The evil thing living here, commonly known as a puppy is doing exactly that after a breafast of raw tripe and eukanuba puppy. Is it common for a puppy to wake you out of bed with a throat hold MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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