*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Okay ladies and gents, mothers 3 year old Wheaton/Greyhounf has apparently collapsed with EIC. Waiting for the vet. Dog was fitting, now led on my sofa, breathing fast, eyes open, but unable to move. . Told over the phone he'll come good after rest. . Anyone experienced this ? He's going to be thirsty for sure. Been over 30 mins now. Getting better gradually. . Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdalejoel 669 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 my little dog did on a busy day...i just had to carry her the rest of the way and after a nights sleep she was goo as gold, wasnt fitting tho i think fitting could indicate worst tbh 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Okay ladies and gents, mothers 3 year old Wheaton/Greyhounf has apparently collapsed with EIC. Waiting for the vet. Dog was fitting, now led on my sofa, breathing fast, eyes open, but unable to move. . Told over the phone he'll come good after rest. . Anyone experienced this ? He's going to be thirsty for sure. Been over 30 mins now. Getting better gradually. . Thanks cool it down and limit its water when it comes around Quote Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted May 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Cheers guys. . I laid hands on him and he came good! . . Just kidding. Right you were paulus, he recovered okay after a couple of hours. Should be back to normal tomorrow. Wasn't nice to see! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saluki246 1,053 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Gets some electrolytes down him, recharge is good. However, if he was fitting, i would go to a good greyhound vet, could be some other underlying problem their that needs sorting. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick c 411 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I had it 2yrs back with my spaniel dog after a full days graft pushing through woodland . I just carried him back to van took him home put him in a dark place to sleep it off . not nice to see he was fitting like you described and hes still with us today fitter than ever but like said get recharge down him atb mick 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yup seen it a few times including this year at the shoot with a seriously fit spaniel. Young dog as well. Sometimes it just happens, he now takes glucose gell out with him incase the dog flags again 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Interesting area, do you think it was true EIC which would seem to have a genetic cause or could it have been heatstroke? Retrievers are well known to suffer with EIC as are border collies; site below has a video of a border collie showing symptoms. EIC is usually something that has a short recovery whereas heat stroke or fitting would have a slower recovery. http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.cvm.umn.edu/vbs/faculty/Mickelson/lab/EIC/bordercollieEIC/&sa=U&ei=4G6bUfXfI4aE4ASq14DwDA&ved=0CBsQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHn6L_HODX2P6hA17un4l74Mi1beg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 purely for rehydration, (not for animals with an illness0, are things like recharge and lectade actually any better than water? in my experience a dog which has diarrhoea or similar may benefit from salt/glucose solution but pure water better for simple rehydration? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 purely for rehydration, (not for animals with an illness0, are things like recharge and lectade actually any better than water? in my experience a dog which has diarrhoea or similar may benefit from salt/glucose solution but pure water better for simple rehydration? Is water any better or worse than lucozade sport Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulf 820 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 i was exercising my deerhound xgrey a few years back running behind my van ,now this was on a bumpy road so i wasnt going fast at all i was also running my saluki pup too .after about a mile i turned round opened doors to let dogs in as there was a few people walking about so decided to go home ,when we got home my pup was fine jumping about as normal but deer xgrey looked not his usuall self when we got home i put food and fresh water for him which he turned his nose at and went to his kennel . i went to phone vets as something didnt seem right i was gone maybe 10 minutes when i returned he was dead . i was devastated as was the mrs and kids ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulf 820 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 what i also meant to say to the field marshell count yourself lucky he pulled through Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Simple really replace what’s missing, ie if the dog had diarrhea/vomiting it will be losing fluids, energy substrate and salts so give rehydration with these added such as Dioralyte which has salts and glucose given in water. If it is just a little dry give water. If it has burned its available glucose store give glucose ie Lucosade or home made versions. On the other hand if its over heating cool it down ie water on the outside such as pond or water trough, if open water is not available wet any area with little hair such as belly inner thighs and sips to wet mouth/tongue along with wetting surface veins on legs etc, give small amounts of water to aid cooling but don't let it over do it as it may then just vomit it all back up. If unsure if over heating or low glucose give glucose solutions and cool down it down as above. Dogs tend to over heat rather than get dehydrated but as they then drink lots to cool down people have traditionally thought the dog was dry. If a dog has lost salts without vomiting etc or is so dry that these are really needed then it needs a vet PDQ. Edited May 22, 2013 by sandymere 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 my little dog did on a busy day...i just had to carry her the rest of the way and after a nights sleep she was goo as gold, wasnt fitting tho i think fitting could indicate worst tbhMy little terrier did the same a few years back after a long day out.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdalejoel 669 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 my little dog did on a busy day...i just had to carry her the rest of the way and after a nights sleep she was goo as gold, wasnt fitting tho i think fitting could indicate worst tbhMy little terrier did the same a few years back after a long day out.. she was bushing rabbits out of woodland running after them everywhere after a day of catching bolters up on the hill... she was very lethhargic and drank her weight in water out of a trough but the next morning she was jumping around like a coiled spring Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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