Working Nuttals

[THE DEALER! 77]

Me and a mate ran a lot of brians young dogs on for him untill they'd been dug to a few times and we never really had a dud,one thing I will say is that like most well known breeders he runs a few lines and only sells the good gear to people he knows or that come well reccomended,I found them too hard for ordinary pest control as I only required a bolter but had many friends that used his stuff,he has managed to keep them small for a very long time now without losing either drive or head size,the main problem I have come across in the past is that every black fell owner calls their dogs "NUTTALLS" or have been bred off stuff that have never come from his yard,WM

 

So the guys he don't know he sells the shit to, how do you know the main problem you have come across in the past is that the stuff never came from his yard ?

[bitchie 292]

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sorry but how long do i has to wait till you send her over??????

[wirral countryman 2,110]

The Dealer,you must be naive if you think every dog coming out of every bitch in a kennel is going to be A1,there are as many grades of worker as there are types of lads that work them,some hardly go out and some are out every day,you can also put the best 2 dogs together and breed sh*te,you pays your money and you take your chance unless its a repeat mating,then you will normally know what your producing,but as said before,any black terrier is claimed to be of Nuttall lines if it helps sell pups,WM

[Cleanspade 3,322]

The Dealer,you must be naive if you think every dog coming out of every bitch in a kennel is going to be A1,there are as many grades of worker as there are types of lads that work them,some hardly go out and some are out every day,you can also put the best 2 dogs together and breed sh*te,you pays your money and you take your chance unless its a repeat mating,then you will normally know what your producing,but as said before,any black terrier is claimed to be of Nuttall lines if it helps sell pups,WM

in this case you pays your money and have no chance as mr nuttall is giving poorer quality knowingly. to complete strangers so couldnt judge the amount of work the new owner would be giving the pup

[Wolfie 106]

The Dealer,you must be naive if you think every dog coming out of every bitch in a kennel is going to be A1,there are as many grades of worker as there are types of lads that work them,some hardly go out and some are out every day,you can also put the best 2 dogs together and breed sh*te,you pays your money and you take your chance unless its a repeat mating,then you will normally know what your producing,but as said before,any black terrier is claimed to be of Nuttall lines if it helps sell pups,WM

I think what the dealer is saying is nuttall is buying pups in and selling them on as his breeding when there only 50 to 75 % nuttall blood. you just dont know what your getting of him anymore.

[bitchie 292]

Are these BN bred terriers from the mans yard within the past few years, or nuttal strain that have been bred from by guys that own and work them ?

 

sorry for the late answer. dont know how but dont saw your post!

they are from b. nuttall himself or bred by us and a close friend.

just worked by us!

[wirral countryman 2,110]

 

The Dealer,you must be naive if you think every dog coming out of every bitch in a kennel is going to be A1,there are as many grades of worker as there are types of lads that work them,some hardly go out and some are out every day,you can also put the best 2 dogs together and breed sh*te,you pays your money and you take your chance unless its a repeat mating,then you will normally know what your producing,but as said before,any black terrier is claimed to be of Nuttall lines if it helps sell pups,WM

in this case you pays your money and have no chance as mr nuttall is giving poorer quality knowingly. to complete strangers so couldnt judge the amount of work the new owner would be giving the pup

 

C.S. thats not whats being said,but when mating a decent worker for the first time there is a chance that they may not do as well as a known repeat mating,the repeat mating pups would be sold with a better knowledge of the type of work they are capable of,all I would say is that is to be honest when telling him you're after a pup on the amount and type of work you do and he will try to match you up with the sort you require,the man has bred a steady small line for a long time now and deserves a little respect for the work and time he has put into the terrierworld and considering the stories he has to listen to by tyro terriermen trying to impress him at every turn with their exploits when meeting him,then,I think he is long suffering and very courteous at all times,which is more than I could be,I just think that fools with no idea of what it takes to live a whole life in terriers knock his dogs because of the odd dud,we all breed them now and then,WM

[foy 15]

Posted 20 May 2013 - 08:01 PM

Me and a mate ran a lot of brians young dogs on for him untill they'd been dug to a few times and we never really had a dud,one thing I will say is that like most well known breeders he runs a few lines and only sells the good gear to people he knows or that come well reccomended,I found them too hard for ordinary pest control as I only required a bolter but had many friends that used his stuff,he has managed to keep them small for a very long time now without losing either drive or head size,the main problem I have come across in the past is that every black fell owner calls their dogs "NUTTALLS" or have been bred off stuff that have never come from his yard,WM

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sells god gear to people he knows or recomended! What a load of shit! He's a breeder, money is money to him, if he had the great principles you say he has he wouldn't breed from none working stock, take many many failures back and guess what. Breds off them, it doesn't take a genius to work out, bred shit to shit you get shit, and when you have done so for many years proper terriermen know he score! So he exports the shit and the tales of 40 years of dreaming, and unfortunately young or fols fal for it. Question! Why did you run them on and why did they go back? Not nice to take back off you if yours and you are happy! People need to wake up and listen to his selling techniques full of shit

[dee mac 579]

i think that the lads back at the start who had terriers of brian back before the money took over had a good chance of obtaining a fair working dog these men in turn bred and worked the decent one s and done right by the failures and many are still breeding these dogs from fondation stock got many many years ago of this man are they still nuttall breed dogs? NO as the men that kept them right deserve the credit but if your looking for the type that most refer to as old nuttall type then its these lads\men you need to find and not mr nuttall as the dogs he s producing this last few years are only a shadow of the dogs everyone remembers and what most think there getting when they buy one today and yes i ve seen pups that came over to diff lads over the past few years and to say i would nt give them kennell space is an understatement !

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

 

Are these BN bred terriers from the mans yard within the past few years, or nuttal strain that have been bred from by guys that own and work them ?

 

sorry for the late answer. dont know how but dont saw your post!

they are from b. nuttall himself or bred by us and a close friend.

just worked by us!

Thank you for your reply bitchie, if you don't mind me asking did you's get terriers off the man at a particular stage and they suited yourselves so you's bred down from that or would you's still to this day get off him from time to time and if so what's your view on the comparison if any ?

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

If you are thinking of doing some rabbiting then get a nuttal if youre thinking of proper terrier work then don't go near him his dogs are a load of shit an been bread from none working terriers but if anyone gets one its there own option if it doesn't work out for you he will give you your money back what u payed for it then bread off it.

 

How many Nuttalls have you had???? Lots by the sound of it eh? Nuttalls "are a load of shit"...be interesting to see what you base this on???? I'd be willing to bet it isn't an opinion based on hands on experience...

[gasman 53]

I remember seeing Duke, and Mickey both very poor earth dogs, and as for Miner blood I wouldn't take 1 if given for free, but Brian's idear, and need is different from mine.

[spindolero 1,111]

I remember seeing Duke, and Mickey both very poor earth dogs, and as for Miner blood I wouldn't take 1 if given for free, but Brian's idear, and need is different from mine.

Gasman - did you see the old stuff go and did you rate it?

[wilbur foxhound 480]

 

I remember seeing Duke, and Mickey both very poor earth dogs, and as for Miner blood I wouldn't take 1 if given for free, but Brian's idear, and need is different from mine.

Gasman - did you see the old stuff go and did you rate it?

 

how far back is the old stuff youre talking about,as the terrier I had from nuttal in the mid nineties wasn't old stuff,atb wf

[spindolero 1,111]

was talking to lad that had stuff early 1980s and rated it highly

bred from penny ^& punch