Genetics Or Trainning ?

[bracken boy 584]

a good dog is a good dog, let the dog see the rabbit. lurchers are fast so going to catch. i dont want a 1000 pound dog just need one with four legs and then enjoy the training to whatever your after, its all fun.

Edited May 16, 2013 by bracken boy

[colliexgreyhound 119]

shit is still shit but a good well bred pup can be made shit very easily

[bigdaz 688]

Is a lurcher good because of its blood line or is it because of the time that as been put into trainning it as a pup. Can a pup from crap parents be made into a all round hunting machine. ?

To the first question, both.

To the second, yes.

[colliexgreyhound 119]

 

Is a lurcher good because of its blood line or is it because of the time that as been put into trainning it as a pup. Can a pup from crap parents be made into a all round hunting machine. ?

To the first question, both.

To the second, yes.

 

id say its more luck than anything for the second

[3 Turns 326]

ALRIGHT TROOPS.

THERES ALWAYS A GOODUN IN EVERY SHIT LITTER.

THE ODDS ALWAYS CHANGE WHEN PUPS ARE OFF DECENT STOCK BUT THATS NEVER A GUARENTEE.

SEEN SOME WRIGHT FXXXED UP STUFF OFF GOOD STUFF.

BREED YOUR OWN THEN YOU NO WHAT YOUR DEALING WITH.

[strongbow1 257]

I personally put eeverything down to genetics. Its nature nurture.

[Ideation 8,216]

As 3turns said, it's a game of percentages.

 

A well bred litter should have a higher percentage of pups that will make good dogs, than a litter bred off to shit dogs.

 

But two very good parents can produce shit pups, sometimes an entire litter. The blood just doesnt marry right.

 

And two shit dogs can throw good pups, even a good number, perhaps throwing back to previous dogs in the line that were good.

 

Genetics are a funny thing.

 

BUT.

 

It's logical to try to stack the odds in your favour by both getting a well bred pup and putting a lot of time into training it.

 

Also it's interesting that some well bred dogs of a certain type are 'too much' dog for some people and become a fecking liability or a nutter without the right kind of experianced handling.

 

Just my thoughts.

[TROY_BOY 62]

both!!! cant win the derby with a donkey no matter how much time/ training

[paulus 26]

The spanner in the works comes when you realize some bitches that are not necessarily the best often tend to throw the greatest percentage of good dogs, more so if the bitch is a first cross and put to a good dog

[birddog 1,354]

the more time, effort, practise and training that you put into a dog the better it will be no matter how its bred...........if you dont put the effort into a well bred pup with lots of potential it'll never be owt..........but if you put lots of effort into a lesser bred pup it'll do you proud

[Bossie 90]

As 3turns said, it's a game of percentages.

 

A well bred litter should have a higher percentage of pups that will make good dogs, than a litter bred off to shit dogs.

 

But two very good parents can produce shit pups, sometimes an entire litter. The blood just doesnt marry right.

 

And two shit dogs can throw good pups, even a good number, perhaps throwing back to previous dogs in the line that were good.

 

Genetics are a funny thing.

 

BUT.

 

It's logical to try to stack the odds in your favour by both getting a well bred pup and putting a lot of time into training it.

 

Also it's interesting that some well bred dogs of a certain type are 'too much' dog for some people and become a fecking liability or a nutter without the right kind of experianced handling.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

Completely agree, you can get good and bad from good working stock as well as from parents that might be muts/pets. Even with a pup from a working line it's in gods hands. However just like you said, you try to stack the odds in you favour by getting something which is bred right.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Bossie

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

As the saying goes a donkey never won the grand national... I agree with everything ideation has said

 

A question though... The highly bred dogs you mentioned.. Are they coursing hounds or specialist fox dogs or another type?

[Desmond 480]

I think you stand a far less chance of failure if you start with a good foundation[genetics],rearing a pup from proven stock from proven bloodlines gives me more confidence that he or she will be up to the job.I have never bred a litter and would only do so if I had a really good bitch,id rather buy a pup in than be kennel blind.A good dog man still plays his part mind but even he would struggle to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear

[nans pat 2,575]

I think you stand a far less chance of failure if you start with a good foundation[genetics],rearing a pup from proven stock from proven bloodlines gives me more confidence that he or she will be up to the job.I have never bred a litter and would only do so if I had a really good bitch,id rather buy a pup in than be kennel blind.A good dog man still plays his part mind but even he would struggle to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear

sometime you have to see the proven stock with your own eyes.lot of these dogs are bummed up by their owners and hangers on for to get higher stud fees.you only have to watch youtube .

[Desmond 480]

 

I think you stand a far less chance of failure if you start with a good foundation[genetics],rearing a pup from proven stock from proven bloodlines gives me more confidence that he or she will be up to the job.I have never bred a litter and would only do so if I had a really good bitch,id rather buy a pup in than be kennel blind.A good dog man still plays his part mind but even he would struggle to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear

sometime you have to see the proven stock with your own eyes.lot of these dogs are bummed up by their owners and hangers on for to get higher stud fees.you only have to watch youtube .

 

Blondie and red Sonia are the mothers to my dogs Charlie and buddy are the sires