Trampled To Death ..........

[socks 32,253]

 

Cattle dogs need to know the score and react immediately to situations, or they become a liability in themselves...

Personaly, I would always prefer to have a good dog, watching my back,.. at all times...

 

i thought thats why socks was with you.........

Fukc off you ginger freak ..............

[SLIPUM88 39]

Seen this in paper today

http://s1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa440/keymac1/?action=view&current=F8416BDB-6EB2-4237-9234-CC83C4472C08-4391-000000E8A490E9B2_zps22c383be.jpg

[socks 32,253]

That's the one I was on about .........

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

was chub fishing the river ely by st fagans few yrs back and a old dear got trampled i had to walk past the body with the law and stuff there-not nice my mate had a presa that would move em no problem cows are f***ing horrible things imo.atb

[hairyface 211]

Would a hard herding dog have saved his life? Or do these stockmen not have dogs about because they attract trouble?

 

Seems madness to me not to have a good dog in the truck/tractor/bike with you when working with such dangerous beasts....

the reason he wouldn't have had a dog with him would be because the cow would've instantly gone nuts on first sight of the dog, the cow and calf were most likely in a shed or separated field so no real need for a dog.

what a lot of folks don't realise is "suckler cows" a e left to there own devices for the most part and only interacted with when dosing/drenching or treatment is needed, whereas milking cows are in contact with the farmer twice a day, but also a main factor is the breed, every cow gets protective of there new borns regardless of breed but the the "suckler cow" is in a different league, "sucklers" are predominantly continental breeds, limousine, charolais, Simmental, Belgian blue, pidemontese, blond de Aquitaine, all these breeds are more highly strung than your milking dairy cattle, such as freisian, Holstein, Ayrshire, jersy, gurnsey,as I say they all get protective but you've got to give the beef breeds respect as they are unpredictable, as I said earlier my mates dad was killed by "suckler cows" while walking his dog across a footpath one morning at 6am, they repeatedly trampled him then got down and butted him, and generally made a fecking mess of him. obviously living in the country and working on farm when younger I have a better understanding of cattle than a townie, in my opinion the worsed are as follows in order .

1) suckler cows with calfs very dangerous, and will try to kill you

2) groups of young bulls. unpredictable and bolshy and push there luck

3) dairy bulls, although the cows are quiet the bull are dangerous and need to be watched

4) beef bulls. there are generally docile due to there sheer size and only interested in food and sex.

5) bullock( castrated bulls) and heifers, very inquisitive and will follow you but with no bad intentions

6)milk cows, as above, nosey b*****ds,

but there is always an exeption to the rule, especially when you have a dog with you,so you must have abit of savvy, I myself will never take a dog through a field that has "suckler cows and calf" as there is also a chance the will run the opposite direction and over the fence which is not good either. the fact that he was an experience bloke among cattle just shows there unpredictability and highly strungness,cheers HF.

[unlacedgecko 1,467]

I used to work as a relief milker on a place in Lincolnshire. The dairy bull there was an absolute c*unt. 6ft to the shoulder, we used to have to move him out the crew yard with a high pressure hose. The tw@ had a me trapped in the office for over 2 hrs once, had to phone the head herdsman and get him out of bed at 0300.

[dytkos 17,863]

 

Would a hard herding dog have saved his life? Or do these stockmen not have dogs about because they attract trouble?

 

Seems madness to me not to have a good dog in the truck/tractor/bike with you when working with such dangerous beasts....

the reason he wouldn't have had a dog with him would be because the cow would've instantly gone nuts on first sight of the dog, the cow and calf were most likely in a shed or separated field so no real need for a dog.

what a lot of folks don't realise is "suckler cows" a e left to there own devices for the most part and only interacted with when dosing/drenching or treatment is needed, whereas milking cows are in contact with the farmer twice a day, but also a main factor is the breed, every cow gets protective of there new borns regardless of breed but the the "suckler cow" is in a different league, "sucklers" are predominantly continental breeds, limousine, charolais, Simmental, Belgian blue, pidemontese, blond de Aquitaine, all these breeds are more highly strung than your milking dairy cattle, such as freisian, Holstein, Ayrshire, jersy, gurnsey,as I say they all get protective but you've got to give the beef breeds respect as they are unpredictable, as I said earlier my mates dad was killed by "suckler cows" while walking his dog across a footpath one morning at 6am, they repeatedly trampled him then got down and butted him, and generally made a fecking mess of him. obviously living in the country and working on farm when younger I have a better understanding of cattle than a townie, in my opinion the worsed are as follows in order .

1) suckler cows with calfs very dangerous, and will try to kill you

2) groups of young bulls. unpredictable and bolshy and push there luck

3) dairy bulls, although the cows are quiet the bull are dangerous and need to be watched

4) beef bulls. there are generally docile due to there sheer size and only interested in food and sex.

5) bullock( castrated bulls) and heifers, very inquisitive and will follow you but with no bad intentions

6)milk cows, as above, nosey b*****ds,

but there is always an exeption to the rule, especially when you have a dog with you,so you must have abit of savvy, I myself will never take a dog through a field that has "suckler cows and calf" as there is also a chance the will run the opposite direction and over the fence which is not good either. the fact that he was an experience bloke among cattle just shows there unpredictability and highly strungness,cheers HF.

 

 

 

Good post

 

Cheers, D.

[littlefish 588]

 

 

Would a hard herding dog have saved his life? Or do these stockmen not have dogs about because they attract trouble?

 

Seems madness to me not to have a good dog in the truck/tractor/bike with you when working with such dangerous beasts....

the reason he wouldn't have had a dog with him would be because the cow would've instantly gone nuts on first sight of the dog, the cow and calf were most likely in a shed or separated field so no real need for a dog.

what a lot of folks don't realise is "suckler cows" a e left to there own devices for the most part and only interacted with when dosing/drenching or treatment is needed, whereas milking cows are in contact with the farmer twice a day, but also a main factor is the breed, every cow gets protective of there new borns regardless of breed but the the "suckler cow" is in a different league, "sucklers" are predominantly continental breeds, limousine, charolais, Simmental, Belgian blue, pidemontese, blond de Aquitaine, all these breeds are more highly strung than your milking dairy cattle, such as freisian, Holstein, Ayrshire, jersy, gurnsey,as I say they all get protective but you've got to give the beef breeds respect as they are unpredictable, as I said earlier my mates dad was killed by "suckler cows" while walking his dog across a footpath one morning at 6am, they repeatedly trampled him then got down and butted him, and generally made a fecking mess of him. obviously living in the country and working on farm when younger I have a better understanding of cattle than a townie, in my opinion the worsed are as follows in order .

1) suckler cows with calfs very dangerous, and will try to kill you

2) groups of young bulls. unpredictable and bolshy and push there luck

3) dairy bulls, although the cows are quiet the bull are dangerous and need to be watched

4) beef bulls. there are generally docile due to there sheer size and only interested in food and sex.

5) bullock( castrated bulls) and heifers, very inquisitive and will follow you but with no bad intentions

6)milk cows, as above, nosey b*****ds,

but there is always an exeption to the rule, especially when you have a dog with you,so you must have abit of savvy, I myself will never take a dog through a field that has "suckler cows and calf" as there is also a chance the will run the opposite direction and over the fence which is not good either. the fact that he was an experience bloke among cattle just shows there unpredictability and highly strungness,cheers HF.

 

 

 

Good post

 

Cheers, D.

 

That is indeed a good, detailed insight to cattle behaviour but.......from a distance, to the eye of a casual bypasser.......who can instantly tell the difference and make a sensible decision? I, for one, prefer to give cattle W I D E berth.......

[Neal 1,888]

I'm always amazed at how few farmers use dogs. When you think about how low their wages are and how important a member of the workforce they have the potential to be. It's a no-brainer!