Trampled To Death ..........

[socks 32,253]

Move the feckers on, not only for your safety, but they will wreck a long net, and they just will not tip toe over the warren !

This was what was left of one of my stop nets ......

 

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

 

Yeah - that's all well and good but the dog moving the cattle in your 'Tilly' post has obviously been trained and/or has that inbuilt 'drive' and determination to do so...most pet dogs (and it's more often than not dogs that cause the initial inquisitiveness in cattle and if there is calves on the ground the protection instinct) would shit themselves when cattle approach and invariably look to their owner for protection...that's when the shit hits the fan...

 

I worked for 17 years as a shepherd and have seen some crazy stuff with dogs/folk/cattle...

 

Very few people will have a dog capable of driving away curious, or worse, furious cattle...best give them a wide berth....

 

Especially at this time of the year...

I am not just talking about dogs moving cattle I am on about moving them on in general ... I have to do rabbiting all over the country and I often have to work in places where the farmer can't move the cattle .... If they become a problem they have to moved .......l

 

 

 

Okay - not quite 'getting' what you're getting at to be honest but I'll give it the big anyway....

 

I am simply suggesting that if most everyday folk tried to move cattle on "in general" or otherwise with ordinary everyday dogs they'd be in the shit pretty quickly...that's all...it's that simple...

[inan 841]

Phew thought you going to say your pup had been trampled...

 

To right move the feckers on.. Had a few close shaves with young beef cattle and my sister was trampled as a youngster..

 

I have healthy fear of cattle and avoid them best I can, but sometimes its not possible..

 

Had wee jack that could get them shifting

I too thought Socks youngster had met a sticky end ,glad I was wrong.

 

Years ago I got knocked down by a small herd of cattle, my old dog stood over me ,barking them off, then as I regained my feet, he jumped the fence to safety.I wrote an article about it in the EDRD.

Socks demands and receives a high level of obedience from his dogs,so letting one move cattle away is different to a dog uncontrollably chasing them around a field. Bovines on the prod are not to be underestimated.

Edited May 14, 2013 by inan

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

I have had many many close shaves with cattle and horses... I always carry a stick whie out walking/mooching/ferreting/lamping... I am perhaps fortunate that i am familiar with cattles body language, most of the time they are bluffing... Cows with young calves are the most dangerous... Bulls with dodgy temperaments tend to be well known and certain breeds id be more wary of than others

never have a dog on a lead around cattle... They are often charging at the dog.

[Wullz 408]

Can be anything that starts them off, our mate has a herd of bampots on an area we shoot. He calle dmy up asking us not to shoot as it was spooking them and they were stampeding about the place wrecking fences / dry stane dykes etc.

I went down to have a chat with him ,explaining that we shoot (with moderators) maybe 1 outing in 10 or so? We manage the deer very carefully on this farm, only taking the occasional beastie, sure, if we see charles, he gets nailed, anyway, as I am standing there talking to him, a cyclist goes past wearing a dayglow yellow top.......cue entire herd, they go fekkin mental, ballistic, running up the park going loopy, jumping through bushes, right through a dry stane dyke.....all over the shop. Big Rab looks at me and says, fair enough, carry on!!

 

We are uber careful in there tho, only go in as a par, one spotting, one watching for the beasts and we dont shoot anywhere near them...very very unpredictable animals and big beasts too....they could do you in big time....

[birddog 1,354]

had a few close shaves .......worst for me are the year old bullocks, been out living wild almost with little human contact.....don't need much to get them on your case

[paulus 26]

i witnessed this a few years ago http://www.birminghampost.net/news/west-midlands-news/2005/06/15/cows-kill-grandmother-in-surreal-accident-65233-15633339/

[s.e.s.k.u 1,893]

Scare the sh*t out of me . And im not afraid to admit it lol

[shaluk 48]

I have had a few close shaves at night they put the fecking wind right up me if it can be done safely move them on every time (or just take a mongo lamping with you lol)

Atb

Carl.

[Country Joe 1,411]

I was out lamping in a field where the Bullocks were gathered at the top end, the dog ran a rabbit and the herd ran towards me, maybe i should have kept light on, but i switched it off, and as they ran by me, one clipped me on the shoulder, and i dropped like a stone, lucky i was only winded, nothing damaged, but i got a fright, would rather just keep away from them.

[poacher28 120]

i took a hiding from a cow last year it put me in hospital. even having expirience in handling cattle under my belt you have Allways got to have your whits about you in thier company. when out with the dogs the best answer is to avoid cattle at all costs but as been said above move them on if you come into contact with them and the worst thing you can do is panic. stay calm and show authority over them

[Born Hunter 17,798]

I dunno wheather I like it or not but my bitch will see beast off in no uncertain terms. She doesn't want bother with them but if they want to get too close and give her the eye she knows that a quick charge and a few snaps to the face will send them bucking away.

 

It's good in that I know she can handle herself with dangerous stock and keeps me safe but equally she's got a real dislike for them, her attitude being of a pre emptive strike, lol.

 

I keep her at a close heel around sheep, as although she knows not to bother them, if they tried the same trick the beast do I know full well they would get the same treatment and that could really stress a ewe out.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Cattle will kill a dog real easy,..so, if you have to encourage large beasts to move away, from a work area,..you either need a determined and fearless, face biter, that knows the score, or a canny barker that has enough savvy, to steer well clear of flashing hooves,..or, it will get emotional...

Edited May 14, 2013 by CHALKWARREN

[wuyang 513]

My old collies knew the score......

 

[**Lurcherman** 32]

one question y hunt it wit a dog? i know cows with young calfs are dangerous and bulls are a nighmare but cattle i ways get a stick and herd them like the farm would nice and calm and keep the dog away cause thats what draws them on you ! so sending a dog to do it is a little silly if you ask me,if farmers seen it i dont think they would have you on there land for long , get a stick and dont be afraid to use it dealt with a lot of live stock and the only thing i never go any where newar is a horse they are the worst thing in the world to deal with !