.22 Allowed But .17Hmr Not Allowed

[cyclonebri1 8]

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

Have you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

 

 

 

[TWOTWOTHREE 152]

Hi

As for a round coming back at you? Once I had a lr round come back towards me when scoping up at 40yds or so. it missed me by a foot or two. Lucky because it still had enough energy to go through the tin sheeting on the barn side.never wish for it to happen again.i don't know what sent it back my way as I was in the meadow grass. Maybe a stone or something. Shit the bed came to mind.safe shooting

Atb

223

[Alsone 789]

 

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

Have you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

 

If you think it can't happen, this is quite sobering. A very lucky guy:

 

 

 

 

I once had a near miss with a .22LR fired by my friend.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Alsone

[bailiesocks 0]

Totally confusing, with my open certificate I could shoot your two farms with any of my rimfires or my centrefire (25.06) . Is your FEO concerned by your lack of experience,if so why just on one farm? In your position i would call your FEO and ask him to explain why he is imposing this restriction and how long he intends to impose it . if he does not explain his reasons ,how can you be expected to remedy the problem. Good luck and remember you are simply asking for a reason that he should be happy to supply.

[Hmr Hunter 2]

This is nuts! I've owned both and shoot both regularly for the past 3 years. Obviously both are dangerous in the wrong hands and a safe backstop is a must with both BUT imo the Hmr is a lot safer round than the HMR! The ricochets with 22 are crazy and almost every shot! I feel way more comfortable shooting the HMR than the 22. Sounds like your FEO hasn't a clue what he is talking about!!!

[Beefbeefbeef 10]

HMRHunter - all sorted now (see previous page). No explanation given but I have decided against trying to embarrass them even more.

[paulus 26]

Hi

As for a round coming back at you? Once I had a lr round come back towards me when scoping up at 40yds or so. it missed me by a foot or two. Lucky because it still had enough energy to go through the tin sheeting on the barn side.never wish for it to happen again.i don't know what sent it back my way as I was in the meadow grass. Maybe a stone or something. Shit the bed came to mind.safe shooting

Atb

223

i was out with my lad early morning the other year, he shot at a crow with the rimmy, the motor we were in was parked adjacent to a 5 bar metal gate, he shot through the gate from the passenger seat, the round hit one of the gates railing came back and hit the motor, luckily only the wheel. shit the fook out of me i can tell you

[rimmer 33]

Looks like you taught him well !!!!!!!!!!!!

[cyclonebri1 8]

 

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

Have you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

 

 

 

 

No, have you?, that was my point unless you are being cryptic??

 

It needs several impact point to create a 180 degree ricochet, ie, into a quarry or similar, or maybe you want to argue that too?

 

The danger of a ricochet is largely one of hitting someone outside the line of fire, not in front of it.

 

And yes of course I've seen that .50 video, only thing I can say is only in America

 

What YOU should be asking yourself is why have I had ricochets coming back at me, and as the 50cal video shows, they all do it it if you let them

Edited May 30, 2013 by cyclonebri1

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

 

 

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

Have you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

 

 

 

 

No, have you?, that was my point unless you are being cryptic??

 

It needs several impact point to create a 180 degree ricochet, ie, into a quarry or similar, or maybe you want to argue that too?

 

The danger of a ricochet is largely one of hitting someone outside the line of fire, not in front of it.

 

And yes of course I've seen that .50 video, only thing I can say is only in America

 

What YOU should be asking yourself is why have I had ricochets coming back at me, and as the 50cal video shows, they all do it it if you let them

 

Cor, chill out, I only asked if you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

No I haven't either because I haven't even got my FAC yet

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

Have you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

 

 

 

 

No, have you?, that was my point unless you are being cryptic??

 

It needs several impact point to create a 180 degree ricochet, ie, into a quarry or similar, or maybe you want to argue that too?

 

The danger of a ricochet is largely one of hitting someone outside the line of fire, not in front of it.

 

And yes of course I've seen that .50 video, only thing I can say is only in America

 

What YOU should be asking yourself is why have I had ricochets coming back at me, and as the 50cal video shows, they all do it it if you let them

 

 

Look, I'm not interested in any .22lr Ricochets so it is dangerous debates, but that comment above is BS, you need ONE impact point at the right angle to get a 180 degree ricochet, it happens all the time to Numb Nuts who set up poor back board stops at the wrong angle!

 

I'm not a party to this .22lr ricochets all over the place and HMR are safer crap, but hit your quarry and the chance of any ricochet is dramatically reduced!

Edited May 31, 2013 by Deker

[riflehunter583 58]

GOVERNMENT ORGANISATIONs!!

 

just like the tax offices.

 

think they can do what they want when they want like little hitler's.

 

I think they were just making it hard for you for what ever reason the decision maker had decided possibly based on what side of the bed he rolled out of that morning.

 

glad you got it sorted in the end.

[rimmer 33]

 

 

 

Problem now over for you, great, but I'll comment anyway.

 

My force actively push for shooters to have the hmr and not .22 rimfire, citing tendency to ricochet as the reason.

 

.22 is proven to still produce deadly human force at over 400mtrs

 

hmr does ricochet, and hence probably further than a .22

 

That bloody comment about the .22 not coming back towards YOU BEGGARS BELIEF

 

My ticket renewed last Dec still lists both .22and 17hmr specifically for fox

Have you had ricochets come back towards you?

 

 

 

 

 

No, have you?, that was my point unless you are being cryptic??

 

It needs several impact point to create a 180 degree ricochet, ie, into a quarry or similar, or maybe you want to argue that too?

 

The danger of a ricochet is largely one of hitting someone outside the line of fire, not in front of it.

 

And yes of course I've seen that .50 video, only thing I can say is only in America

 

What YOU should be asking yourself is why have I had ricochets coming back at me, and as the 50cal video shows, they all do it it if you let them

 

 

Look, I'm not interested in any .22lr Ricochets so it is dangerous debates, but that is BS, you need ONE impact point at the right angle to get a 180 degree ricochet, it happens all the time to Numb Nuts who set up poor back board stops at the wrong angle!

 

I'm not a party to this .22lr ricochets all over the place and HMR are safer crap, but hit your quarry and the chance of any ricochet is dramatically reduced!

 

You should try shooting 22lr tracer and see exactly where your rounds do end up, i kid you not it can be frieghtening.

The other thing with is that a bullet only requires one inpact point to change direction and only needs several impact points if it is to travel a given route but i think you may find that the end point is rarely reached as the bullet energy is lost during the impacts.

[Alsone 789]

 

You should try shooting 22lr tracer and see exactly where your rounds do end up, i kid you not it can be frieghtening.

The other thing with is that a bullet only requires one inpact point to change direction and only needs several impact points if it is to travel a given route but i think you may find that the end point is rarely reached as the bullet energy is lost during the impacts.

 

 

Yeah I found this a while ago on youtube.

 

Just look how the tracer rounds ping off the steel targets at all sort of angles.

 

Ok nothing back at the shooter but when the camera angle is reversed and you see the shots from the target end, then you can really see the ricochets off left, right and vertically. In fact the worst ricochets are from the ground alone at a shallow angle (as I mentioned earlier). That was how I nearly copped one from my friend, he shot a rabbit with a sub, it passed straight through, hit a stone on the path and ricocheted and passed over my right shoulder at an estimated distance of 3-6 feet - impossible to know as non tracer round - you could just hear the round as in .50 calibre video.

 

Decker is right in that every round is safe if used properly. But .22 does tend to ricochet more than fragmenting rounds such as .17 hmr.

 

Edited May 31, 2013 by Alsone